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Will Iran cry "uncle" over sanctions?
July 17th, 2012
12:04 PM ET

Will Iran cry "uncle" over sanctions?

By Jim Ribble, CNN

(CNN) – A large chunk of Europe and a number of other countries around the world have stopped buying oil from Iran. The hope is that the rogue nation will be pressured to come clean about its nuclear program.  Are we seeing a modern-day "siege of the castle"?

CNN's Jim Ribble recently spoke with a couple of Mideast experts (with differing opinions) to get their thoughts on how the sanctions are working. Vincent Lauerman of  global energy analysts, Energy Intelligence Group, says:

"The sanctions are working far better than we in the West could have ever expected. Iranian oil exports are down from about 2.5 million barrels a day at the end of last year to maybe about 1.3 million barrels a day now."  [1:04]

But Michael Singh of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy is skeptical:

"It hasn't yet done the job of getting the Iranians to really get serious about compromising on their nuclear program."  [1:23]

Vincent Lauerman questions whether Iran – or the West – will win this latest test of wills:

"The major concern I have is that we (the West) overplay our hand and basically the relative moderates in the Iranian regime lose what power they do have...and the hardliners just take over again.  But as long as we don't overplay our hand, I think ultimately there's a very good chance we're going to force the Iranians down to their knees."  [3:32]

soundoff (133 Responses)
  1. elbbirmij

    Back to Iran and the oil sanctions: Did you folks see where Iran now says it will insure any foreign tankers sailing through its waters. And there are indications at least a couple of countries are willing to take Iran up on that inducement. Seems that Iran is willing to put up a fight to get around the sanctions. Who do you think will blink first: Iran or the West?

    July 18, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  2. Navi

    Should Iran ever acquire nuclear weapons, and should they foolishly nuke Israel, then Israel, in retaliation, as per plan, will nuke Mecca and Medina, and that may well be the beginning of the end of Islam!

    July 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennis No Menace

      Navi, so you admit Israel has had a plan all along to nuke Mecca & Medina.
      Coward Jews, Christ-killers!

      July 18, 2012 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Navi

        NO, only in retaliation!

        July 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Israel could have nuked all of the arab states long ago ...but they are a civilized nation....whereas...

    whereas, if it was the reverse and israel had no nukes and the arabs did, the MIDDLE EAST would be glowing by now....

    FACT IS; israel has been extremely responsible with their nukes and never thretened to wipe anyone off the map even though some would say they have had plenty of justification to do so....but they havent.....because, as anyone honest and non racist knows, israel is a moral, free, democratic, peaceful nation...

    anti sems and arabs should be THANKFUL that israel is as MERCIFUL as it has been.

    July 17, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • double standard??

      Again, you speak of states as if they are not run by people....as if the state if Israel will never produce a leader willing to nuke a neighbor but other states in the mid east would. The truth is people are people, independent of state lines, and any leader, good or bad, can make fatal decisions. The question is not who YOU think will be responsible or not, but why is one country allowed to hold onto nuclear weapons while they stand ready to wage war against another to prevent them from developing the same weapons. This is hypocritical and a double standard. Israel should relinquish their nuclear weapons, and Iran should ensure they do not develop them…this is the right approach, not yours.

      July 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Israel could have nuked all of the arab states long ago ...but they are a civilized nation....whereas...

        oh yeah, I can see how that would work..israel relinquishes them and iran lies and develops them....GREAT PLAN YOU HAVE THERE...

        fact is; when the US, russia, china, pakistan, india and the UK give up their nukes, israel will do the same. but iran should never be allowed nukes regardless of what everyone else does...they are fanatics nuts.

        July 17, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
  4. it is not that easy

    so you think it is easy to calculate money or military power the iranians have nuclear warheads and israel too, but when you get the bottom of it iran is not easy to deal with and israel is too small will be destroyd quickly because hamas and hezbollah will do the job that they are waiting for years to do and there it goes USA should step out from that area and deal locally because we need things to be done here faster and sufficent because people cant take it any more. thank you for reading.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Dennis No Menace

    You dumb Israeli ass licker Americans !!!
    You whine when 6 US soldiers die and bitch & moan when gas rises up just a few cents. And you want another war? For who, the Israelis? This is not a US problem. Let Israel deal with it (if they have guts). Jews have you confused. Israel is NOT US.
    Jews are just using you dumb blokes.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Abdul Wahab Farsi

    If Iran already had nukes US+Israel would not be in Persian Gulf now. Iran MUST have nukes. MUST! NOW MORE THAN EVER. To avoid US+Israeli hegemony.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Herp Derpington

    Who cares...Iran knows that if they are dumb enough to initiate a nuclear attack against Israel, the Israelis have the capacity for a retaliatory attack that will completely destroy their country, not just one city, without the help of the US....so if Iran wants to make nukes, great! All that I hope is that they realize it would be national suicide to attack Israel with a nuke, as they will respond 100 fold, or attack a US interest in the area, as we can respond in minutes from either subs in the region, or ICBMs from home...

    July 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Sined

    I really don't care. I do care about fat cats outsourcing our jobs... Let's get our priorities straight...It's outsourcing stupid!,

    July 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
  9. xfiler93

    Iran is all show. and they know it. they do something stupid, it will destroy them more then anyone else.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • according to who?

      suuuuuure you will. all that meat head chest beating despite not being able to lock down an enemy in the most backward and undeveloped country in existence? how are afghanistan and iraq working out? i think we lost 6 marines the other day. you must be such a tough guy to say stupid tripe like that despite facts. this country is going broke fighting a relatively primitive enemy. iran is not iraq or afghanistan.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. wpqr

    Whenever the subject of Iran's nukes come up, we get the same anti-Israel diatribes over and over again. "Israel has nukes, so why not Iran?" "Why the double standard?"

    Yes, Israel had nukes. So does Britain, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and the United States.

    Israel has had nukes for over 40 years. Have they ever used them? No. Can they be trusted with them? Yes. Has it caused an arms race in the Middle East? No. Why? Because even its enemies know Israel maintains them for only one reason – to deter other countries from attacking it.
    Would all these people condemning Israel be comfortable with a fanatical theocracy like Iran in possession of a nuclear weapon?

    July 17, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • according to who?

      this 'fanatical theocracy' you speak of has no history of aggression against other countries unlike israel and the US.

      are you gonna brin up that 'wipe israel off the map' crap? probably. let me pre-empt you. its been proven to be bogus. we can discuss that if you'd like.

      fact of the matter is that talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words. iran has not attacked a country in two years. america attacks a country every two hundred minutes.

      you're either brainwashed. or a rube.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • double standard??

      Your claims that Israel (or any of the other countries you listed) have an inherent right to nuclear weapons because of our self appoint position of Judge and Jury is flawed. No country has the right to sit on nuclear weapons and threaten war against another in fear of them developing the same weapon. Either you relinquish your stock pile of destruction and then demand other nations to do the same, or you abandon your self-righteous position and end your war mongering. Either way.

      July 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Gary

    If the West thinks for a minute ,Iran will fold thw West had better get ready for fuel prices like they have never seen before. America leaders really think this Iranians care about their people !

    July 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      Umm, wonder why the war propaganda ramps up concerning Iran? Can anyone provide evidence of Iran invading any other country...say in the last 50 years? Hasn't the US overthrown at least one Iranian democratic elected government? Wasn't that operation called "Operation Ajax" that oeverthrew Moussedeq in 1953? The US should be on alert from itself, it has killed more civillians, children in far more wars, invasions, overthrows, terrorist attacks, illegal wars than any other country on the face of this earth...HANDS DOWN!!!

      July 17, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  12. lets stick to the facts.

    fact is. we have no proof that iran has nuclear weapons. in fact our own intelligence agency and mossad both deduced this was the case. what happened to all those reports? who's agenda is being pushed when facts are being conveniently ignored?

    July 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      You mean like the WMD's that were supposed to be Iraq?? LOL

      July 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Dumadum

    Hey Jim Ribble:

    Who the hell are YOU to call Iran a rogue nation ??? Israel has 400 nukes, US has 1000s and you dare call Iran a rogue ?
    Iran may be no angel but your Israeli buddies are using US to create havoc all over the world. Israel caused 911, Iraq war, Afghan war, drones on Pakistan and Yemen and you DARE call Iran a rogue ?
    Are you an Israeli? How did you get to write this crap on CNN?

    July 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • according to who?

      here here. america is a spoiled brat that needs to be disciplined. hope iran gets nukes. it'll remind me of that movie where that tough kid on the block is the only one with the stones to stand up to the bully. are you listening saudi dogs?

      July 17, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Major Tom

      Hear hear!

      July 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • TheBob

      Correct.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  14. according to who?

    whats the definition that this sorry excuse for a major news outlet is using for 'rogue nation'? by every measure of a rogue nation america beats iran with spades.

    # of nuclear weapons used (with close to 50,000 civilians vaporized so our delicate soldiers wouldnt have to invade japan).
    # of arms exported to the world.
    # of terrorist regimes supported throughout the world (we supported hussein, we supported mubarak, we supported the shah of iran who we deposed a democratic government for)
    # of countries invaded in the last 200 years (iran has invaded perhaps once, america has several dozen under its belt)
    # of wars fought (iran has only fought defensive wars where it was invaded or attacked, not so for the US).
    # of wars started.
    # of civilians killed in the last 65 years (2 MILLION vietnamese died in the viet war, most civilians, and guess who had the biggest guns in that war?)
    # of terrorist groups supported (we supported al qaeda and the taliban when it suited us, and we support anti-iranian terrorist groups that kill civilians now.).

    my feeling is that the nation is rogue because they wont listen to us. and thats pretty much it.

    they have a right to nuclear energy. and honestly. they have a right to nuclear weapons. NNPT treaty notwithstanding, since the US never let a treaty with the good of humanity in mind get in the way.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • they've got us by the cojones.

      our collar is AIPAC, our leash is israel, and our owner is the israeli president.

      have you noticed that one of the only issues the democrats and republicans can agree on is support for israel? a country on the other side of the planet? they cant even agree on how to provide health care for us. but they can undyingly support israel. why? there are zionists on both sides that make sure the right nominees make it to the races.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Barry

    This is a dangerous game with dangerous people. Let's hope we don't overplay our hand and have a bigger problem with them than we already have.

    July 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
  16. only nuclear IMBALANCE in the middle east preserves the wider peace

    ironically, those calling for either iran to have nukes or israel to not have nukes are really only calling for a huge catastrophe...nuclear IMBALANCE is the way forward...

    besides, Israel has been UBER responsible with its nukes for over 45 yrs....something that is a remarkeable achievement given the festering neighbourhood terrorists that surround them....

    some people just never get it...ahhhh the ever idiotic anti semite!

    July 17, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • double standard??

      You speak of states as if they are not run by people....as if the state if Israel will never produce a leader willing to nuke a neighbor but other states in the mid east would. The truth is people are people, independent of state lines, and any leader, good or bad, can make fatal decisions. The question is not who YOU think will be responsible or not, but why is one country allowed to hold onto nuclear weapons while they stand ready to wage war against another to prevent them from developing the same weapons. This is hypocritical and a double standard. Israel should relinquish their nuclear weapons, and Iran should ensure they do not develop them…this is the right approach, not yours.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • davecu

        If not for Israel the Arab states would have to take a closer look at themselves as the cause of all the hatred.
        They would not like what they see!

        July 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ddnobb

      AIPAC = Aggressive Israeli Parasites, America's Cancer

      July 17, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  17. nomorenakba

    Why are we not sanctioning Israel for their nukes? When are people going to wake up? Does it not matter to you that Netanyahu receives 4 more standing ovations than Obama before a joint session of Congress? Israel is the one with the nukes. Israel is the one invading and occupying other people's land. Did you know....some 30,000 Jews live in Iran and to Israel's embarrassment refuse to leave? Don't believe the hype against Iran. Israel is the greatest threat and it's not in America's best interest to continue giving Israel our financial and diplomatic aid. Read Grant F. Smiths, Foreign Agents, The American Israel Public Affairs Committee from the 1963 Fulbright Hearings to the 2005 Espionage Scandal and Spy Trade: How Israel's Lobby Undermines America's Economy. See for yourself if you think our support of Israel is in America's best interest.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • BuzzerKiller

      The reason why everyone is kissing Israel's behinds is because everyone seems to believe that Israel is some kind of god-send. Religion has common sense by the throat. A man once said, "Once you've got them believing what they know in their hearts isn't true, you've got 'em by the balls."

      July 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Navi

      Unlike India and Israel, Iran is a dishonest irresponsible theocracy which supplies arms to terrorists such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the militants in Kashmir for use against India. Iran cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons under any circumstances.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ravi

        But you Indians are calm because Pakistan has nukes. Fool!

        July 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
        • Navi

          People should not display their low culture and mentality on this forum by calling other people names. There are more civilized ways of putting points across!

          July 17, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dumadum

        Yea' don't be taking that line. Hindus want to align with Jews because they both hate Islam. Ha ha ... we are all Goyyims to Jews. Jews are no friend to Hindus. Jews willl use you like they use USA.

        July 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
        • Dave

          It didn't take too long for you to switch from Israel to Jews, in general, proving what most people already know about Israel haters... You're really Jew haters.

          July 17, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Baloney

      30,000 down from 450,000 when the Shah fell. He was killing jews just because they were Jewish. Hence the loss of many business men and jobs in Iran. It is more probable that the 30,00 can't leave because they are in prison.

      July 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Maybe I heard this wrong.......I thought the leader of Iran said he wants to be the one who starts the battle of Armageddon. Everytime he speaks he talks about destroying Israel and the US. Everyone knows that if Iran gets
      a nuke they will use it. If the sanctions dont work, Israel or the US will not hesitate to bomb Iran........

      July 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • davecu

      It's not in our best interests to give aid to the Palestinians, the Pakistanis, the Egyptians, the Afghans, and half the countries in the world. This only bring animosity and hatred.
      Bring our troops home, seal our borders, and the rest can go scratch!

      July 17, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Navi

      Ancient Israel existed before the birth of Jesus Christ. The Muslims are in Palestine by subsequent conquests, and forced conversions of the local people to Islam. After all these years, the Palestinians are only good at stone-throwing and terrorism.

      July 17, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
  18. BuzzerKiller

    ISRAEL: 7.5 million population / In and around 400 nuclear warheads / 16 billion dollar military budget / $2133 per capita military expenditure / 1964 Aircraft / 752,000 active and reserve military personnel / 3230 tanks.

    IRAN: 77 million people / 0 nuclear warheads [that we know about] / 9 billion dollar military budget / $117 per capita military expenditure / 1030 Aircraft / 1,195,000 active and reserve military personnel / 1793 tanks.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      You might want to inject a little reality in your "facts"
      Iran sacrificed 1,500,000 of its own people, some 8 year olds killed sent out to clear minefields, in their losing war against Iraq.
      They're religious nuts and will do anything to kill Israel, too. Don't let your hatred of Israel color the truth or anything...

      July 17, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Easyrhino

    Iran a "rogue nation"? Why, because they want to be energy independent just like our politicians say the US should be?

    Fact is It is the unanimous judgment of the U.S. intelligence community, declared in 2007 and affirmed in 2011, that Iran has abandoned any program to build nuclear weapons.

    And if it weren't for the influence of the Israel first crowd this would be a non-issue.

    The real rogue nation in the ME is a different country that begins with the letter "I" that has not signed the NNPT nor does it allow inspections of it's facilities.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • BigGuy

      Easyrhino let me be the 1st to contribute towards airfare for you to Iran! If you really think it's such a great place why not move there?

      July 17, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Easyrhino

        If you want to believe propaganda feel free but I believe in putting the interests of the US first and our interests are not served starting another war on behalf of Israel.

        July 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • double standard??

        BigGuy, no one is claiming Iran is a nice place to raise your kids. That said, it is an independent state and has sovereign rights. You cannot have double standards for one nation with respect to another, especially when their foreign activities are not as aggressive. Please stop using flawed logic to justify flawed logic. Thanks!

        July 17, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • knucklecheese

      I defy you to back up ANYTHING you just said. What utter baseless nonsense.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • wpqr

      Our intelligence believes that while Iran is trying to get the capability to acquire a nuclear bomb, they haven't made the decision to do it.
      And if you're so convinced they're not trying to develop a bomb, why reason would Israel have to be concerned about it?

      July 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Les

      If the Iranians want nuclear power for peaceful purposes, then let the rest of the world inspect their facilities. If that is the case I am sure they would actually get HELP to build them!

      July 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  20. C

    First of all, this poorly written article instantly accuses and claims Iran is "hiding something" about their nuclear ambitions, indicating the Iranian nuclear program is anything but peaceful, while downplaying the fact that sanctions on a nation are in fact, an act of war. The innocent people of Iran suffer; all of this, not because Iran poses a threat to any nation, as such, they haven't attacked any nation in modern times, only defended themselves after the United States sent Saddam into Iran in the 80's. The reason for the U.S. and Israel seeking war in Iran is simple; Israel wants to stay the sole, preeminent nuclear weapon holding power in the middle east, so that no other nation can lay claim to their power. Israel and the United States are basically the same, and one of our major footholds in the region. To claim Iran is "rogue" is to claim that it is "us" vs "them" and Iran is evil, which is nothing more than western backed propaganda.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  21. double standard??

    I must say, it is very surprising to see the general public (as represented here anyway) does not see the US and Israel holding onto their nuclear weapons as they shake their finger at Iran is nothing less than hypocritical and pure nonsense. Im i missing something? Iran is terrorist state, but it has nothing on Israel and the US (with their Mossad and CIA)? Iran is not an aggressive state compared to the US and Israel....so what logic is used to justify one but not the other? No one sees this, or they just chose to ignore it? im at a loss....

    July 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • BigGuy

      What does it tell you about a government that would murder it's own citizens to stay in power.. There is no place on this earth that is perfect.
      So let us compare how many people in the world flock to Iran for political, religious and economic freedom versus the U.S. or Israel?

      July 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dumadum

        Trying going and getting citizenship in Israel if you NOT a Jew. Idiot!! You'll defend Israel's crimes anyhow.

        July 17, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
        • Dave

          Dumdum, I doubt YOU tried to emigrate to Israel, so why are you b*tching? Oh yeah, because they're Jews involved, you rotten Jew hater.

          July 17, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Tizzy

    Someone set us up the bomb!

    July 17, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Ken from FL

    Well, this was probably one of the least helpful and informative news items I've seen in a while. Zero analysis coupled with some "sound bites." Now that's news.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  24. mat

    Funny how the ones who say Iran has a right to a nuclear program are the same ones who promote gun control in the US.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennis

      That nonsense is yours and yours alone.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
  25. atteckus

    Not sure if the sanctions will work or not, but the sanctions may not have time to fully play out. The Israelis are not going to bank their security on the effectiveness of sanctions if they don't see some immediate and meaningful progress. I'm no military expert, but I would venture to guess that Iran has a matter of weeks, not months, to come to its senses and capitulate. Before the Fall, Iran will be nuclear free, either by agreement or by conflagration. We should all hope it is by agreement. But the time for agreement is almost completely gone.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  26. BD

    The best thing that could ever happen to the west as far as Iran is concerned is for Iran to stubbornly push on despite the sanctions. The sanctions are having much more of an effect than anticipated and a few years of this will have the Iranian gov't struggling to maintain their civil infrustructure in much the same way that North Korea has.

    This is the modern "siege-of-the-castle" and its working way better than a ballistae.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Friendly from CT

    Sanctions won't work. And on the subject, where do we, meaning US, get the right to dictate which soverign countries can or can't make nuclear bombs? If an outsider came into my neighborhood and said this house can keep guns and these houses can't, most of my neighbors would be ticked. They might even wish that someone ill. We need to myob and cut the defense budget so we can pay off the debt and pay for social security for our old people.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • m

      While I agree that we tend to act as imperialists, in this case the analogy would be more consistent with not allowing a someone on parole to have a firearm. Especially when they have restraining orders against them.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rat Bones

      Because we will be responsible for the mess when it all goes wrong. With power comes, the responsibility to use it properly. We have the power to prevent a nuclear rodeo, so it is in our best interest to do so. We have the "right", because we are the biggest kid on the block, and everyone is counting on us.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jimmy

      yawn

      July 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Pritch

    Ha, Iran is just laughing at the US. They don't care about sanctions. Its like double secret probation.

    July 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Carl

    Obviously the primary goal of sanctions is to get the Iranian government to give in but what is a "not-so-obvious" goal of the sanctions is to get the young people of Iran to revolt and force a regime change. It is no secret that the younger generation in Iran hate their current form of government. It's just a matter of time before the Islamic revolution is flushed out for a more liberal form of government.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • ScottCA

      The sooner that the Iranian government is over thrown and the people can start calling themselves Persian again (which every Iranian I have met still calls themselves out of pride) the sooner they can start having real pride in themselves and their nation again.

      I look forward to a rebirth of Persia, and the removal of islam from government. Religion and government should always be held seperate. Religion has no place in government or education.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • TiredOfPaying

      I've always said that we should just drop Blue Jeans and Playboy Mags into Iran, not bombs.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dennis

        Ham sandwiches wouldn't hurt either.

        July 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rich

        Dropping blue jeans would be expensive. Have you seen what Persian guys wear? Not exactly Kirkland Signature ...

        July 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Bill Foonman

    "there's a very good chance we're going to force the Iranians down to their knees."

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, Vincent Lauerman clearly doesn't grasp the Muslim mentality – especially when it comes to The Supreme Liar and his Mad Mullahs.

    The only thing that will bring these theocratic thieves to their knees is the total destruction of their clandestine nuclear program before they have a chance to use it against Israel or U.S. interests.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • jersvette

      True That!

      July 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  31. GODZILLA1

    The 8 year war between Iran and Iraq inflicted a million casualties on EACH side. Near the end the Iranian Moolahs were sending young teen – age boys in human wave attacks against the Iraqis. That is how desperate and fanatical they are. The Iranian government will willingly starve its own people rather than capitulate. You cannot negotiate with crazy; you cannot argue with crazy; you can't persuade crazy; you can't intimidate crazy and the Iranian leadership, political and religious, is B@+$#!+ CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!

    July 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Diplomacy only works part of the time and when it’s a nation that is willing to negotiate. Iran only knows one thing, and that is to be forced into doing it. The Greeks did it long ago when the Persians came knocking on their door. Iran will never go away until they are forced onto their knees. Unfortunately that means blowing the crap out of them.

      July 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorge washinsen

      It is always easier to send someone else to die in wars especially for leaders of countries.I think all wars should start at the top and the top dogs fight first.Wars would not last as long.

      July 17, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • JerPell

        Your remark is stupid and it makes no sense at all!

        July 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennis

      No,but you can kill crazy.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  32. craig

    I have no interest in "forcing the Iranians to their knees." That's the whole problem in the first place. They have legitimate responsibilities...and they also have legitimate concerns. The balance point is to help (not force) them understand that we will honor the latter if they honor the former. Show us (the world) what you're doing...and if it's all good then we can move on. Continue to chose to ignore those responsibilities and people will believe you're hiding something...something bad. This is not, and should not be, about "domination." It's about treating everyone equally, and if they signed on to the treaty, they, like everyone else, are obligated to do what they agreed to do.

    The problem is that too many people see this as "taking Iran to its knees" and it shouldn't be. We may not "like them" a lot, and we may not find political common ground, but that's okay. They have a right to run their country as they see fit, even though others may find it "less democratic" than they'd prefer. That choice is up to the people who live there. The treaty is not.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorge washinsen

      That is the problem now in the Middle East, being on their knees too much.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      Craig you are a dreamer if you think that the Iranian leaders are willing to give up their Nuclear Ambitions. There will be a war, it is just a matter of time now. Personally, I would rather take out all the mullahs and have regime change. But the price to do that will be very, very high.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  33. nolongerarepublican

    Muslims are not weak like others.
    They will die of starvation before they kneel to the wealthy world oppressors who want Iranina oil and want to force every country in the world to bow to them.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay G

      Muslims are cowards and sissies. They can't even handle jokes about their great prophet. They even have to force their women to cover themselves head to toe because they apparently can't control their most basic instincts. They're weak willed.

      July 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew Nutra

      The Iranians are willing to crash their economy just so they can have the right to locally produce medical isotopes? Doesn't make sense to me!

      July 17, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Bob

      You're right. But it's that same strong minded mentality that makes them cling to their religion which, for the most part, rejects modernity. So they can starve standing on their heads. It's easy!

      July 17, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • If that's what they want.

      "They will die of starvation before they kneel to the wealthy world oppressors..."

      Then, by all means, let us help them achieve their desires.

      Poof!

      Problems solved for everyone!

      July 17, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • BigGuy

      It would completely irresponsible for the free world to allow this rogue nation to have nuclear weapons. They would surely sell them to the highest bidder and potentially create the beginning of the end.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Yeah, very brave. Whether its blowing themselves up and killing 50 innocent people at a fruit stand or like in Syria, murdering thousands, there definitely is a "bravery"....

      July 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  34. rob

    To the Government of Iran: Please, please, please ignore the legitimate demands of the rest of the world and continue on your present obstinate course regarding your nuclear program. That way the world will have a good excuse to attack you, overthrow your disgusting regime, and free the Iranian people and the rest of the world from your fanaticism and tyranny.

    To the People of Iran: as an American I can honestly tell you that I myself, nor anyone I personally know, have any ill-will toward you (except for the psychopaths that chant slogans like "Death to America", "Death to Britain", "Death to Israel", or the like). We're all human beings, we all share this one planet, and none of us is going anywhere, so we might as well all learn to get along and enjoy the ride together. Please support the brave members of your Green movement and their leaders, so that you can achieve a government that is more deserving of you and your long, esteemed heritage. And please take any actions necessary to pressure your government to listen to the pleas of the rest of the world to suspend your nuclear program until the IAEA can certify that the program is strictly for peaceful purposes, so that the other countries of the world have no reason to continue to sanction you, eventually attack you, and cause you more unnecessary misery. When a new, more reasonable government takes over in Iran, I'm sure the United States, and the rest of the world, can work with Iran to settle the issues we disagree on, so that our world can be a little more peaceful. And for the issues we all can't settle, maybe we can agree to disagree, and be just a little friendlier.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew

      Funny Rob. The government of Iran is laughing at you and the people of Iran have censored internet if they can even access it at all. So what was the point of your long winded rant?

      July 17, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Everett Wallace

    didn't armadeanajob say they had enough money to last them for 3 years. tell you what, here is a discount proposal for anyone, except for the united states, buy rans oil, ONE dollar for a tanker of iranian oil.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
  36. dutspup

    boring, really? All they have to do is sell it to their neighbors then they sell it to us, duhhhhh

    July 17, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
  37. El Diablo

    The idea that we are going to stop countries from getting 60+ year old technology is laughable.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      El Diablo:
      Consider, for a second the importance of keeping that "old" technology from the hands of those who have demonstrated time and again that they'll supply terrorists.

      July 17, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      What "60+ year old technology", are you referring to? Oil? The "technology" has been around for much longer than 60 years. Also, while you're at it, might you suggest what else the world should use that is available, and ready for mass markets?

      July 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        I appologize, I completely had a brain stoppage, after reading the comments above yours. Nuclear technology, of course. Please accept my appology for my earlier trolling.

        July 17, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Marc

    After Afghanistan and Iraq, I don't think anyone has the stomach for yet another war.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • JerPell

      Don't forget Libya!

      July 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Andrew

    Sanctions work great! Look at Cuba and North Korea....getting the results!

    July 17, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  40. discouragedinMI

    Oh, this is an easy one! No. They won't.

    Nuff said.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Matt

    Why wouldn't Iran want nukes, they keep up from attacking N. Korea, don't they? Iraq didn't have any WMDs and we took them out anyway. It would be stupid for Iran not to want nukes. Aside from some gifts to rather unimpressive Shiite specific terrorist organization that mostly hassle Israel and do nothing but talk big to the rest of the world, what's their real crime? Iran has no capacity for invading anyone else, nothing to gain from any war and even if they did have a nuke, Israel has them too, many more than Iran could hope to create and the ability to deliver them. Just like Iraq, this is going to be an excuse to dole out no-bid contracts to favored companies and middle class America is going to pay for it.

    July 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • double standard??

      So, after trolling a bit and reading these comments (some of which have valid and accurate assessments), i must say, it is very surprising to see the general public (as represented here anyway) does not see the US and Israel holding onto their nuclear weapons as they shake their finger at Iran is nothing less than hypocritical and pure nonsense. Im i missing something? Iran is terrorist state, but it has nothing on Israel and the US (with their Mossad and CIA)? Iran is not an aggressive state compared to the US and Israel....so what logic is used to justify one but not the other? No one sees this, or they just chose to ignore it? im at a loss....

      July 17, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Jack1

    Iran is more concerned over getting the bomb than the welfare of its citizens

    July 17, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Jim

    stories like this are nothing but nonsense, seemingly written by folks who are hoping to lull the public into a sense of scurity and buy time for Iran

    July 17, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Goy Untermensch

      You'll be the first in line at the recruiting office when we go to war to protect Israel, right Jim?

      July 17, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        Why do you liberals hate Israel so much?

        besides....this situation does not call for war.
        All that's needed is the nuclear sites to be obliterated by bombing strikes.

        And "no"...I wouldn't join to fight a war with Iran...no reason.

        July 17, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
        • Reps&Dems2Ring Circus

          "stories like this are nothing but nonsense, seemingly written by folks who are hoping to lull the public into a sense of scurity and buy time for Iran" Jim, what are you talking about? Right after your above comment, you come in with some kind of DA comment. Take the med's, enjoy a nap, and go fishing.

          July 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
        • Les

          bombing Iran is not as easy as it sounds. They may not have the latest technology, but we would have a difficult time wiping out their nuclear facilities with conventional bombs.

          July 17, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Jack Be Humble

    This is an opportunity for China to purchase as much of Iran's oil output as they can take; China, and the other countries exempted from the embargo. A sanction which is not a sanction is not a sanction.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorge washinsen

      China lives only for China.We live only to convert everyone to our way of thinking.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Capt Obv

    Anyone misguided enough to thing sanctions will work on Iran (i.e., Obama), should be run out of office for incompetency. Iran is not scared in the least by these sanctions. There are plenty of other nations willing to buy Iranian oil, either legitimately or through the black market.

    It is like grounding your kid for the night when his/her bedroom has a door to the outside and you are away on vacation. The UN sanctions hold no water with Iran.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      You are correct sir

      July 17, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Joe

    Iran won't cry uncle. They'll do just fine. They have powerfull friends like China and Russia. Perhaps the US should just get their fat as s out of other countries and deal with it's own huge domestic problems.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorge washinsen

      Our exhaulted one is hammer down on the problem. We need another four years so we get a good dose and help our memory.

      July 17, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  47. derykhouston

    Why does anyone need to make any country drop to it's knees. Iran is doing othing wrong. It has signed a treaty and it allows inspections. The west wants more...it wants everything. It demands to inspect areas that it has o business demanding to inspect. Every country is allowed to have national secrets.
    The west is going to over play it's hand and end up with blow back as usual. Don;t say no one told you.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • sefs

      A blind eye shouldn't be turned to countries whose leaders claim other countries don't have the right to exist and then pursue technology which will enable them to create weapons of mass destruction....

      July 17, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
  48. IHateLies

    If people think sanctions will work on Iran, you are fooling yourself. Iran's official oil exports may be down, but are they selling on the black market? Are they finding work arounds and people to play along in the UN? You bet they will. And other countries will play along because they know that having fuel is key to their economic survival.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Wayne

    Sanctions never work as intended, unless the goal is just to make the country hate you slightly more. That they're pretty good at.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Sure they work. Look how quickly Cuba/Castro succumbed. Only 50 years and counting.

      July 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • derykhouston

      I agree....sanction generate hate because they hurt people and ruin lives. Iran has every right to processing it's own fuel and the west refuses to allow them to do that. This point needs to be clarified. Israel says no to "any" processing levels. The west says "some". Which is it? I point this out because the west seems to be saying two differnet things at once. It is clear they are not going to allow Iran to process to any level. The west has refused to make a deal on this issue and Iran can't and shouldn;t back down from it's right to process it's wn fuel because it is it's right to do that. There are just so many strange things that the west seems to be doing on this issue. They will not even agree to drop the sanctions even if Iran stops refining it's own fuel. What they are saying is we will slap you if you don't do what we say and we will slap you if you do what we say. How stupid or crazy is that? Which is Iran going to chose?

      July 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Andrew

    I love the expression, "relative moderates". What does that mean? "we think nuking the West is excessive, nerve gas will be enough?"

    July 17, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  51. pozin

    It is hard to come to a conclusion whether the sanctions are working because we are only fed bits of information. The media itself is losing its independent credibility.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  52. NO FERMUNDA PLS

    Iran needs to drop to their knees and then stay there because lots of fat gross americans aint getting any and need servicing.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Suleiman the Magnificent

    Iran will cry uncle, daddy, mommy. Persians are suffering because their extremist government insist in looking strong when they are weak. They had a war with Iraq and couldn`t even beat the Iraquis after 8 years.

    July 17, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      The Iran-iraq war does set the table for the outcome here. We smoked Iraq in days, and they smnoked Iran. They will not cave until someone offers them a way to save "face." Persians are incredibly easy to manipulate. Their pride always gets them beaten.

      July 17, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Iraq smoked them? Persians are easy to manipulate? What are you smoking, fat American?

        July 17, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Saman

      Actually the Iraqis couldnt win the war against Iran even with the help of US Russia and the rest of the world, even when iran was at its weakest point because of brand new government, despite all that Iran defended their territory, Iranians had suffered enough from their government and US is not helping, their putting pressure on the people not the government, the people who run the Iranian govenrment will stay rich and eat but the ordinary citizens will suffer from price of food/living sky rockets, well done US, way to go to, if ur not killing civilians around the world ur making the rest suffer alive.

      July 17, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dennis

        Then it is time for the Iranian people to stage an uprising against these religious perverts.Who wants to be ruled by a bunch of turbaned,bearded religious zombies living in the Islamic beliefs of the 8th century?..Stoning to death and hanging people in public.The Iranian people deserve better than this.It is time to revolt against these tyrants.

        July 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
        • Shah

          Please start revolting against your Israeli buddies in White WhoreHouse first.

          July 17, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bruce

      Iran knows their military weakness as their war in Iraq indicated. This is why they want nukes. However, if they had nukes… that would be the end of them. They have self appointed foolish leaders...

      July 17, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dennis No Menace

        Bruce, Iran leaders are no fools. Fools are the Americans who bend to any Israel order at the drop of a pin.
        Just because Iran's rulers look different, dress different u think they are fools?
        How have they harmed US in recent times? Ok they said somethings but Americans bomb other cultures into oblivion. Fools are you Americans+Israelis to have monstrous leaders like Obama & Nuttinyahu.

        July 18, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |