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Dems: God never left our party
Democrats pray at a morning gathering at the 2012 Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, NC.
September 5th, 2012
12:51 PM ET

Dems: God never left our party

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

Charlotte, North Carolina (CNN) - Heads are bowed in prayer inside room 211 at the Charlotte Convention Center.

Last night, Democrats put the word 'god' back into their party platform following some strong criticism. For the folks at this daily prayer session though, god and the party never parted ways.

Delegates here are fine tuning the message that you can have deep religious convictions and still vote for a Democrat. It's a puzzle the party has been trying to crack for years.

Christina Forrester is founder and president of the group Christian Democrats of America:

[0:35] “The notion that one party holds a cornerstone on Christianity, that’s breaking and that’s what one of our goals is – to break that stereotype because the reason that we’re Democrats is because we are Christians.”

It’s up to Reverend Derrick Harkins to make sure that people of faith see their values reflected in the party’s platform. He’s the National Director of Faith Outreach for the DNC:

[3:15] “I really believe that people are excited because we’re talking about the ideas that really resonate with people across the spectrum in terms of faith.”

But skeptics like Pastor Robert Parham of Nashville, Tennessee remain unconvinced:

[3:31] “Some faith leaders feel that oftentimes the National Democratic Party on the faith front is all hat and no cattle.”

The trick for Democrats in Charlotte is to bring religion into the public square, but not so much so that it offends people who believe it doesn’t belong there.

How do you view the relationship between religion and Democratic politics? Join the conversation below.

soundoff (716 Responses)
  1. Kaehu

    I was totally shocked to watch the Democrats loudly reject God three times at their convention, to be followed by booing God. I'm sorry, but there's no way I can ever vote for someone in this party again. So now they are officially Godless. It's truly frightening, but in line with where they have been headed the last few years.

    September 9, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  2. JCM

    The Republicans demonize the Democrats to brand their message to get the Evangelical Christian vote in all the white churches. It is political deception from the pulpit at the highest and most dangerous levels. Republicans, with the help of evil and very demoniac false apostle, prophets and teachers who have mega-churches and are celebrity tele-evangelist, sell out to these charlatans to capture votes. The con artist charlatans then convince and shame their congregations into voting for the Republican ticket and warn that a vote for Republicans is a vote for God. And if you dare vote for Democrats that is vote for the devil. This again is politicizing the pulpit and deceiving the people at the highest level.

    Why do they do that? The Republicans gain the votes they need. The charlatan religious con artist gain not only the souls of these Republican leaders to puppet like puppet masters, but they can further their "wild and crazy" theocratic agenda's through the Republican leaders and essentially make themselves the actual leaders of this great nation. Our forefathers foresaw this many years ago, which is why they fought for the "Separation of Church and State" for the protection of the government and the church. And the only major denomination that agreed that church and state should be separate was the Baptist Church. They did not want government controlling their church and the government should not. A really good website to check out on this is http://www.au.org or Americans United for the Separation of Church and State.

    With the recent death of one of the wealthiest and most dangerous religious charlatan con artist's, Sung Myung Moon, America needs to wake up to the fact that they have to be very careful who they lend their ears to religiously and spiritually. There are those, especially wealthy, politically connected tele-evangelist with mega churches, who will purposely manipulate you by politicizing their pulpit to gain your vote for their candidate and to promote their perverted theocratic agenda's Jesus Himself warned many times in all the gospels, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matt 7:15; Mark 13:22;Luke 6:26; John 10:12.

    Jesus was actually apolitical and was more concerned with souls and how we treat each other then being king or ruler. In John 6:15, "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take Him by force to make Him a king (after they saw Him do all the miracles He did), He departed again into a mountain Himself alone." Jesus did not mix His faith with politics. He said "Give to Caesar, what is Caesar's and give to God what is God's" Mark 12:17. Politics from the pulpit should not be. Even the IRS has laws against this. Jesus said our spiritual allegiance belongs to God and we should not manipulate people with this. But the Republicans routinely do by demonizing the Democratic Party from the pulpit and encouraging very naive Evangelical Pastors and Teachers to do so. And they primarily do so by saying that because Democrats support the law of the land that allow abortion through Roe vs. Wade that Democrats are demoniac. When Democrats are actually obeying the law. If these Evangelical Teachers want to overturn this law, they can, but they lack the spiritual power and political no how to do so. And do not really have the true relationship with God to ask His help because they are controlled by the truly evil and demoniac Republicans. They also tell people to vote against Democrats because they support Gay Marriage. It is true that President Obama is in violation of the Federal Law, the "Defense of Marriage Act" and not having the US Defense Department to enforce this with the states, but we are not to criticize our leaders, but to pray for them and that God chastise and correct him. I Tim 2:1-2. We are not to criticize and make our leaders political failings a religious or political issue from the pulpit. Exodus 22:28 and Acts 23:1-5. Again, we are to pray for them and ask God to correct them. I Tim 2:1-2. But Evangelicals are deceived by Republican politicians and false celebrity tele-evangelist to do the opposite to win votes and create a "Culture War" of sorts from the pulpit. To ultimately create a "theocracy" run by the wealthy charlatan con artist and their puppetted Republican politicians to further their perverted religio-political agenda's.

    If Evangelicals would just break free from this obvious deception and really look at what these two men, Romney and Obama, are spiritually they will find Romney to be worshiper of a false demoniac prophet, Joseph Smith, who formed the Mormon Church after he received golden plates from a demoniac fallen angel, Moroni, in the 1800's who told him to wear black clothes...etc (from Wikipedia). Galatians 1:6-9 states "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel. Which is not another: but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or AN ANGEL from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you, than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I now again. If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED! Mitt Romney and anyone following the Mormon religion is accursed of God and does not represent the true God and should not be president of the United States of America because he will try to further his perverted politico-religious doctrine with the support of the many wealthy, false charlatan, con artist prophets, apostles and teachers supporting him from their mega churches. Evangelical need to wake up and really read their bibles and follow it.

    September 7, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      There is no way you can reconcile the abortion/gay marraige situation and claim to be Christian,
      you can claim such but that does not make it so.

      September 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      So its ok for your president to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights to futher his communist manifesto, you are a blind fool!

      September 8, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. JM

    The Republicans demonize the Democrats to brand their message to get the Evangelical Christian vote in all the white churches. It is political deception from the pulpit at the highest and most dangerous levels. Republicans, with the help of evil and very demoniac false apostle, prophets and teachers who have mega-churches and are celebrity tele-evangelist, sell out to these charlatans to capture votes. The con artist charlatans then convince and shame their congregations into voting for the Republican ticket and warn that a vote for Republicans is a vote for God. And if you dare vote for Democrats that is vote for the devil. This again is politicizing the pulpit and deceiving the people at the highest level.

    Why do they do that? The Republicans gain the votes they need. The charlatan religious con artist gain not only the souls of these Republican leaders to puppet like puppet masters, but they can further their "wild and crazy" theocratic agenda's through the Republican leaders and essentially make themselves the actual leaders of this great nation. Our forefathers foresaw this many years ago, which is why they fought for the "Separation of Church and State" for the protection of the government and the church. And the only major denomination that agreed that church and state should be separate was the Baptist Church. They did not want government controlling their church and the government should not. A really good website to check out on this is http://www.au.org or Americans United for the Separation of Church and State.

    With the recent death of one of the wealthiest and most dangerous religious charlatan con artist's, Sung Myung Moon, America needs to wake up to the fact that they have to be very careful who they lend their ears to religiously and spiritually. There are those, especially wealthy, politically connected tele-evangelist with mega churches, who will purposely manipulate you by politicizing their pulpit to gain your vote for their candidate and to promote their perverted theocratic agenda's Jesus Himself warned many times in all the gospels, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matt 7:15; Mark 13:22;Luke 6:26; John 10:12.

    Jesus was actually apolitical and was more concerned with souls and how we treat each other then being king or ruler. In John 6:15, "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take Him by force to make Him a king (after they saw Him do all the miracles He did), He departed again into a mountain Himself alone." Jesus did not mix His faith with politics. He said "Give to Caesar, what is Caesar's and give to God what is God's" Mark 12:17. Politics from the pulpit should not be. Even the IRS has laws against this. Jesus said our spiritual allegiance belongs to God and we should not manipulate people with this. But the Republicans routinely do by demonizing the Democratic Party from the pulpit and encouraging very naive Evangelical Pastors and Teachers to do so. And they primarily do so by saying that because Democrats support the law of the land that allow abortion through Roe vs. Wade that Democrats are demoniac. When Democrats are actually obeying the law. If these Evangelical Teachers want to overturn this law, they can, but they lack the spiritual power and political no how to do so. And do not really have the true relationship with God to ask His help because they are controlled by the truly evil and demoniac Republicans. They also tell people to vote against Democrats because they support Gay Marriage. It is true that President Obama is in violation of the Federal Law, the "Defense of Marriage Act" and not having the US Defense Department to enforce this with the states, but we are not to criticize our leaders, but to pray for them and that God chastise and correct him. I Tim 2:1-2. We are not to criticize and make our leaders political failings a religious or political issue from the pulpit. Exodus 22:28 and Acts 23:1-5. Again, we are to pray for them and ask God to correct them. I Tim 2:1-2. But Evangelicals are deceived by Republican politicians and false celebrity tele-evangelist to do the opposite to win votes and create a "Culture War" of sorts from the pulpit. To ultimately create a "theocracy" run by the wealthy charlatan con artist and their puppetted Republican politicians to further their perverted religio-political agenda's.

    If Evangelicals would just break free from this obvious deception and really look at what these two men, Romney and Obama, are spiritually they will find Romney to be worshiper of a false demoniac prophet, Joseph Smith, who formed the Mormon Church after he received golden plates from a demoniac fallen angel, Moroni, in the 1800's who told him to wear black clothes...etc (from Wikipedia). Galatians 1:6-9 states "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel. Which is not another: but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or AN ANGEL from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you, than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I now again. If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED! Mitt Romney and anyone following the Mormon religion is accursed of God and does not represent the true God and should not be president of the United States of America because he will try to further his perverted politico-religious doctrine with the support of the many wealthy, false charlatan, con artist prophets, apostles and teachers supporting him from their mega churches. Evangelical need to wake up and really read their bibles and follow it.

    September 7, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
  4. justus

    Don't even bother to explain to the un-godly republicans. They don't know God, that God is in your heart and your actions. Therefore they will never know. What they spoke of, aword, on a platform was a symbol. GOD ask us not to worship symbols...they do...let them. Stay focused democrats. Those republicans worship something but it ain't ...

    September 6, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  5. ccb

    To those Pastors who have only two issues: abortion and gay rights. What about GOP/Tea Party led voter denial and suppression? Is this Christian? Cutting entitlement programs to help the poor, elderly, single parents and their children?Is this Christian? Do AA and others have to die again to get the right to vote again with these new voter suppression laws? Is this Christian?If we must, YES! Look at the GOP/Tea Party so-called platform. Can your honestly look your congregation in the eye and say with all conviction that their platform is moral or Christian, except for the two above issues? The GOP and their racial strategies seeks to divide America even further. Is this Christian? (Read I John 2 to see that if someone hates their brother that person is in darkness!). Christians should be, must be loyal not to party nor to country but to the Lord Jesus Christ. If we speak to biblical principles and to the things of Christ both parties will have to deal with Christians period w/o the party labels or their platforms.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      The great divider is Obama, none of your entitlements can make abortion or gay marraige a gift from God!

      September 8, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
  6. EVELYN CONNAWAY

    All you people who have a problem with prayer to our GOD – please read St. Matthew Chapter 6. It tells you what manner to use when you pray. God hears you from wherever you pray. You do not have to advertise before the world your prayers.
    Other people hearing and listening to you makes no difference. You can go into your closet and pray an ask God to help you and others you wish him to help and he will listen. Your prayers, faith and belief in him is a private between each individual and God. No minister, priest, rabbi or the government can be a go between for you. All can tell a person's belief in God by the manner you treat other human beings.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Nicole

    Off course God never left the Democrats. They think he is the Prez.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      keep telling yourself that...rinse and repeat...repeat...repeat. oops doesnt make it any more true if you say it over and over.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Darth Cheney

        The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans talk constantly about God but practice politics against the teachings of Jesus, while Democrats do not talk much about God but practice politics in harmony with the teachings of Jesus.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
        • small voice

          THOU SHALL NOT KILL. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who thinks that abortion in any form is not killing, is blind. Nothing is worse than murdering an innocent, nothing. Therefore, yes, the Democratic Party has abandoned both God and Christianity. There is NO ROOM for compromise on abortion for a Christian. Seriously, do you think that Christ would recommend that any woman have her child killed?

          September 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
        • Scott

          Government enforced "charity" and wealth redistribution isn't the teachings of Jesus. When your platform is to take money from one person to give to a another person without exerting yourself in the process, you don't get to say your teachings are in harmony with those of Jesus. You're just getting a sense of satisfaction without actually doing anything to earn it. If you want to give, use your own time and money to support the poor and leave the rich to wallow in their money. It is those who choose to give of themselves that makes a good society, forcing "charity" does not improve society and does not case you an any better a light.

          September 7, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      Many have forgoten that he stood with his finger in the air and proclaimed "I am the One" sounds like its him or he works for him.

      September 8, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. ccb

    GOP, talk is cheap. What I have observed from the GOP and the evangelicals tied to their hip is that too many of them are using Christianity to sway voters esp white males and the undecideds. Pastors who flock to the GOP, answer this: Does the R/R budget help the poor, minorities that may be in your church, seniors, single parents with kids(GOP propose drastic cuts in Medicaid), cuts in student loan programs, etc.? Now look at your congregation truthfully and ask yourself how you can explain that Christ would approve of such a plan! Look at your congregation and tell them it's okay to be racist but then praise the Lord in the next inhalation of God's air. And by the way,you or we didn't build it-God did!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      Christ told them his kingdom was not of this world and did not get involved with the politics of the time. That they were to lay down their swords.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Darth Cheney

        Jesus was heavily involved in the politics of the time. Not sure which Reader's Digest Condensed Version of the Bible you've read.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      How many dead babies will you trade for your welfare?

      September 8, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  9. DJR

    What if GOD wanting to show his wrath and make HIS power known endured with longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. Romans 9:22 Doing GODs will is written, it's not hidden or kept locked away. But we love the dark, so the light does not shine. The simple hatred by the democratic party shines as a chrome plated knife in the sun light. Striking down all that the CREATOR has done and worshiping the creature, it's skin color, it's sexuality, it's arrogance of knowing better than GOD. The DNP are equivalent to the calf worshippers, Moses left behind when he ascended up Arrat, Obama is their Arron forming their idols.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      actually anyone celebrating Christmas is a pagan...because it originated as a pagan celebration. Halloween is also pagan yet most of you celebrate it. Dont throw in the "calf worshipers" bit when you worship "other gods" and customs". The God of the Hebrew scriptures would have annihilated an entire nation for that.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scott

        That's a ridiculous statement. Just because they used the same date to celebrate a Christian holiday doesn't make it pagan. No one is worshiping a tree or sacrificing people or saying pagan prayers. A tree or mistletoe may be traditional holdovers from earlier worship, but that's like saying that wearing a Fez in New York City makes you a Turk. Those things no longer have any relation to their past usage and haven't for over a thousand years.

        September 7, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • FreeThinker

      Characterizing folks who don't believe as you do as evil or satanic is not constructive. I could not disagree with your views more, but I am not asking you to change your beliefs, just to allow me to live my life without interference. If the GOP is really for smaller, less intrusive government, then walk the walk - stop telling others how to live their lives.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • liberal christian

        Well put. Thank you.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Christ_follower

    Hey CNN, get it right....If you're reporting about Christianity... It's God, not god...

    How incredibly disrespectful to Christians.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      no it is god. God is a title not a name. God has a name (according to the bible). Do you know what it is?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • lgm68m

        I Am, the words used by Obama at the first convention, (remember)

        September 8, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darth Cheney

      "incredibly disrespectful?" You need to lighten up a bit.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Denise Caldwell

    The following facts make you think.

    The National Black Prolife Coalition announces a social media video campaign, called “NUMBERS DON’T LIE” to expose the number one killer of African-Americans: Planned Parenthood and urban abortion clinics. The second installment of a 3-part video series, entitled: “NUMBER ONE KILLER” was released today. It reveals how abortions in the black community outnumber all other causes of death combined.

    New York City, the home of Planned Parenthood, aborts nearly 60% of all black pregnancies. Yet abortion activists denounce any effort to address this epidemic of abortion.

    52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.

    John 10:10 – The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    This is an example the thief using abortion to kill the unborn.

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012 was signed into United States law on December 31, 2011.

    The Act authorizes $662 billion in funding, among other things "for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad."
    The provision, though touted as a necessary inclusion to benefit the war on terror, has come under immense scrutiny as its language sets the stage for American citizens to be detained, arrested and potentially dealt with by use of extreme prejudice, for the mere assertion the one may be involved in potential terrorist activity. The potential, some fear, will do away with the requirements of probable cause, Miranda rights and the right to a fair trial. (Yahoo News)

    Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) remarked that “what this bill does is it takes a wrecking ball to the United States Constitution.” Rep. Paul Tonko (D-NY) described this bill as a threat to “the inalienable due process rights afforded to every American citizen under the Constitution.”

    John 10:10 – The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    This is an example of the thief stealing our constitutional rights.

    Gen. 2:18, 21-24

    The Lord God said, 'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him'...and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh.
    Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man.' For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. (NIV)

    Here we see the first wedding. We can conclude from this account in Genesis that marriage is God's idea, designed and instituted by the Creator. In these verses we also discover that at the heart of God's design for marriage is companionship and intimacy. About.com Christianity

    John 10:10 – The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    Support for gay marriage is an example of the thief destroying God’s concept of marriage.

    God ‘s word states: John 5:30 ESV

    “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      keep your religious views OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT nitwit. Live them personally.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • FreeThinker

        Amen ;)

        September 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • rhondajo3

      Good post!

      September 6, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      Amen, Amen!

      September 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
  12. steve

    Abortion and same sex marriage.....where does God fit into this vaules?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      where does god fit in war? and imperfection?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • P Ness

      God fits in nowhere because there is no God

      September 6, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • mdwesterngrl

        I cannot disagree. I, you, or anyone else cannot prove either. That is why we keep religion out of government.

        September 6, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
  13. jonnet

    If GOD never left the party why did GOD get booed three times before the chairman just rammed the change through?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      Thank You!

      September 8, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Joe

    CNN is a Joke. The audio on this article – I thought was sure to be the Platform amendment vote that CLEARLY was not a 2/3's Yea Vote from the delegates. Villaragosa and the Democrats should be ashamed of passing the amendment as voted. But all CNN has for us is a prayer. What proving that some Democrats are religous. duh.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      Quite the contrary genius, those good Democrats are Christians, they just don't realize that the party is over powered by special enterest parties that are dedicated to destroying their right to believe in and Love God. The party has left these good people.

      September 8, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
  15. RIP GOP

    God does not play politics, any more than God plays football. GOP members who believe they speak for God should remember that they will have the opportunity to discuss the things they said with Him one day.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • lgm68m

      So will every democrat who votes for a candidate who stands on a platform of abortion/gay marriage!

      September 8, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
  16. midwstrngrl

    i dont care what you believe – just keep it out of my government! and yes I was raised very religious, i studied it, i get it, left it. I can still be quite ethical without it. Its quite simple really. Most of the people claiming to follow it miss the point completely anyway.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephen l. walkinshaw

      RIGTH ON!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Larry in Alabama

    Trying to mix religion and politics is dangerous. It can lead to making our women cover their faces when in public.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  18. David

    Todays new Socialist democrat party has nearly left God out of everything.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Texas

      Democrats are not socialist. Your party likes to dabble in hyperpolae.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Texas

    It is sad that the Republicans think they are the only Christians in America. I wonder if conservatives stopped to think (I know that's a stretch) that Democrats serve in the armed forces and defend our country just as Republicans do. We need to take politics to a higher level folks!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
  20. dnokc

    I pray for people of faith in the Demoncrat party. They are useful temporarily for money and votes. They will be put on the shelf when the leaders of their party have no use for them.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Texas

      Your particular media consumption has made you a very cynnical person. We will say a prayer for you.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
  21. rhondajo3

    "How do you view the relationship between religion and Democratic politics? " I view Democrats as the party with the most atheists, and pro abortionists, and the most liberal America haters.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • mdwesterngrl

      try reading the constitution nitwit

      September 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • FreeThinker

      So you want everyone to believe just like you, worship in the way you see fit, and never to speak out about our leaders? Your attitude sounds a lot like what our forefathers were trying to leave behind when they created this country.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darth Cheney

      Your view is Kool-Aid tainted.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Carl Robertsn

    The Mormons were founded by Joesph Smith (1830) who was a 33rd degree Freemason. 33rd Freemasons worship
    Satan and he is their god. The Mormons are nothing but a Satanic cult. It is not a faith (faith is of Jesus Christ). There is no latter day saint church in the Bible. Its all put in mens heads by Satan. (Ephesians 6:12) Mitt is an unbeleiver and a demon. (look at his eyes) What is wrong with people in America? Choice between two crazy men who are already in hell. America has never really been a Christian country, BO and Mitt come from the same tree, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, And are controlled by Satan for one reason , to bring a one world goverment. Look at Bush and Kerry,
    They both were members of Skull and Bone (Satan worshippers) determine to bring the new world order. America is done for. Call on the neme of the Lord. Lord Jesus and be saved.

    c

    September 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • EnoughAlready

      Washington, Jefferson, and other founding fathers were Masons. If Masons are christians, then this nation, founded by Masons, cannot therefor be chrsitian!

      That is a relief,

      September 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  23. SeanB

    I have recently returned form Israel. They have poor, hungry and homeless people there. So is what God says in the Bible wrong?

    I saw a man eating out of a trash can in front of a McDonalds. What happened to his blessing?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  24. SeanB

    "However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

    So, if there are poor among us, God is either wrong here...or someone has taken more than they should. Wonder which one it is...

    September 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bible Believer

      That was a promise given to the Israelites when they entered the Promised Land.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Walter

    The resounding boos when the platform was modified speak louder than your words.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  26. TH in TN

    Forget religion for a moment. How can the Democratic Party or anyone for that matter which claims to stand for human rights stand for and permit the barbaric action of slaughtering an innocent child through partial-birth abortion?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  27. SeanB

    There is no such thing as a true Christian. If you have a car, you can't be a Christian. The Bible commands Christian's to be with the poor. If you own anything that could be sold to feed the hungry, you're not a true Christian.

    A true Christian should not have any belongings...not while there's poverty in the world. Am I right?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • American Democrats

      Wow, that's not even close to being accurate. The bible says nothing of the such.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • P Ness

        Right. The Bible only says the World is flat and the Earth is the center of the universe and you will go to Hell for eating shellfish

        September 6, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • JD

      No, you're not right.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scoop

      That's just downright ignorant. Yes, one time, Jesus told a rich man to sell all that he had and give it to the poor! But that was not something he gave for all Christians to do. He did it because this guy was trusting in his riches and not God.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Darth Cheney

        You do not understand the purpose of a parable, or for that matter, a metaphor.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bible Believer

      Please show me where it says that in the Bible.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyler

      God bless you

      September 6, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh R

      Looks like you don't read the bible. Try reading the whole book before shooting your mouth off and you might find you are mistaken!!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • P Ness

        Should I read the part of the Bible that says the world is flat? The part where it says the Earth is the center of the universe? That you will go to Hell if you eat shellfish?

        September 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • JG

      No, you aren't. In The Old Testament there were set amounts that people were expected to contribute to the common good that comprised what we would call taxes and what we would call charitable giving, The New Testament teaches that every person should share with others out of their own free will. In neither case does it say that you can't have any possessions. I have no idea where you are getting that... other than just speaking bombastically out of ignorance.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  28. American Democrats

    Why did Obama FORCE us to put God in?? This was illegal. Why won't the news cover this betrayal. It happened during prime time every one saw it.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Zane

    So God never left our party but we don't mention his name at our convention? I guess thats too old fashioned, and we're the progressive party, of course.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • C. Williams

      God was mentioned over and over last night and the night before! Perhaps, you either didn't listen or didn't even watch. Give it a rest – there are Christian democrats

      September 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Harvey Garciawicz

    The whole "God" thing was a sham. God was left out on purpose. Then Obama, like the night in shinning armor, decended from the heavens and commanded the DNC Chairman to take three votes and then through the modern day burning bush Obama performed a miracle and GOD appeared on the teleprompter screen.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Willie12345

    Gee, that's not what the rank and file indicated last night. No more spin please, Debbie WS.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Dan586

    The Book of Mormon was written in 1830 by Joesph Smith. PLEASE ! Smith claimed that the last prophet to contribute to the book, a man named Moroni, buried it in a hill in present-day New York and then returned to earth in 1827 as an angel,[ revealing the location of the book to Smith and instructing him to translate and disseminate it as evidence of the restoration of Christ's true church in the latter days. OCCULT

    September 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • American Democrats

      Thanks for sharing??

      September 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Harvey Garciawicz

      Isn't Obama worship also a cult? I'm just saying.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • aronia

      Same as the man Jesus who upended the social order of His time as well. His views were so different from the prevailing views of his people that he was seen as heretical–Just as you see Joseph Smith–Occult, just like all religions!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  33. kckaaos

    A true Christian would NEVER support abortion...PERIOD.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • CharlesUPharley

      A true christian should also not pass judgement.. that is of course unless they are proclaiming what a "true christian" and what there opinion on abortion should be. Bravo! My what cognitive dissonance you have!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • rk

        Actually Cor Chapt 5 say that Chirstian have the right to judge other Christian but cannot Judge non Christians,

        September 6, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • SeanB

      There is no such thing as a true Christian. If you have a car, you can't be a Christian. The Bible commands Christian's to be with the poor. If you own anything that could be sold to feed the hungry, you're not a true Christian.

      A true Christian should not have any belongings...not while there's poverty in the world. Am I right?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • lightandsalt

      A true Christian would never support greed, selishness either. A true Christian of the Word of God cares for ALL life including the poor, orphans, widows, prisoners the mentally ill, and the elderly. A true Christian knows that Mormonism is a cult. . A true Christian knows that God gives everyone a choice- chose today life or death, blessing or cursing. It's laughable that "christian republicans" think they can create a "christian nation" by passing laws. A true Christian knows that righteousness will NEVER come from the law but through grace. A true Christian pledges alligence to God and not a man made nation. I voted for Obama in 2008 and I plan to vote for him again. I am a born again Christian and I don't support abortion.(I support the santity of ALL life). Just because you vote for someone, doesn't mean you agree with everything they say or do. We aren't going to end abortion in this country by changing laws. God is after hearts not laws..

      September 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyler

      Amen to that.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Or war.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • C. Williams

      You should not say that – you haven't walked in some women's shoes. You don't know what you would do, and it is each women's right to decide – not yours. Why should a woman be made to have another baby she can't afford? Some men don't ask, they just rape. Some drunk husband who will then blame his wife for getting pregnant. Stop listening to men and listen to God and your heart. God gave us a brain..............use it!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • CharlesUPharley

      The best part is the fundamental lack of logical thinking in that statement, but given the source. I am not surprised.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

      September 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • FreeThinker

      I'm not voting for our nation's leader based on his church. Melding politics and religion never ends well: crusades, inquisition, pogroms, and now the human rights abuses in the Middle East. Forget being a true Christian. How about being a true American and being tolerant of the views of others.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • chipper

      Republicans push war, with all it's debt, killing and loss of life. They hate women's rights. So abortion is wrong, but invading other countries and killing their citizens is right, as is capital punishment, etc. Forcing teens, vicitims of rape, unfit mothers, and those unwed women unable to financially support their unwanted baby is the Republican rally cry against abortion. Then they try to cut any financial support to these women/babies who are forced on welfare. Republicans love their money above all compassion and ethics. What would Jesus say about these self-righteous politicians, and now unfortunately, the evangelical Christian community. He would be ashamed and appalled at their judgments and lack of compassion.

      September 8, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  34. ExDemocrat

    When I read the title of the article. God has not left the democrats, I thought TRUE, God does not leave us as he owns us, he does not have to leave us however the DEMOCRATS have left him. Our entire nation has had bad laws created by Bad government on both sides but our entire nation & we will be judged by what laws we impose on the people in our country. There is only 1 true God/Jesus Christ and it does not matter if you believe in him or not but you will be judged by him. So sad, that so many people in our country are lost. No wonder our country is already being judged and is in shambles.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • LibertyPlease

      That's all very dramatic, but a little short on fact. Truth is, your belief is based on tradition and and isntinct instead of anything tangible. I respect people who have beliefs, but when you try to encourage legislation based on blind beliefs you can't prove, that's when thigns get non-constructive. We were founded on seperation of chruch and state. We are in a financial mess because of greed, dishnoesty, declining work ethic and inneficiency, both in big business, and in government. It doesn't have anything to do with whether people believe in some particular religion.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
  35. more2bits

    Per the constitution and the separation of Church and State–god has not place in politics at all–save by the moral majority which keeps trying to press it upon us.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Harvey Garciawicz

      You make a good point. By your statement that politics has no business in the church. Why do the politicians and liberals want to interfere in church doctrine and promote queer marriage. I believe the decision should be left up to the individual church on whether they want to adopt the practive of uniting homos in marriage. Local municipale governments could provide an marriage services via justices of the peace and magistrates. Thereby bypassing ministers, priests, and rabbis in the process via their position within the church and society.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • FreeThinker

        So are you seeing a line of gay couples FORCING unwilling pastors to marry them? Didn't think so.

        September 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • LibertyPlease

        You do realize that being able to legally get married doesn't mean you can force any church to marry you right?

        Whether someone wnats ot preside over a wedding is up to them.

        You can bet that most people are going to go for secular ceremonies, or ceremonies in churches where they are accpeted. Don't really see how that hurts you at all?

        September 6, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  36. kckaaos

    I am sorry, but none of the Democraps pictured above have the slightest clue how to humble themselves before the living God. They are clearly posing for a photo, NOT praying.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • carolineescobarfriel

      Your post saddens me above all others. What goes on in this photo is between the people in it and Jesus. We have no idea what goes on in their hearts when they talk to the Lord, nor do we have insight about whether their prayers are staged. You mention humbling oneself before God, but I read your post and saw anything but humility.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  37. more2bits

    God never joined your party in the first place nor the Republicans–he is a myth. Leave it to politicians to incite religion into politics in direct violation of our constitution.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • eddie hurley

      you are wrong

      September 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
  38. LibertyPlease

    Why should God be part of an political platform? Religion, or for that matter, lack of religion, is based on belief. Political decisions should be based not on the subjective, but the objective. Our political parties should not be interested in upholding or endorsing any particular belief. They should be concerned with objective things like balancing the budget, making government more efficient, protecting life and property to support stability and allowing people the most freedon possible to live their lives.

    In short, we should all be able to marry who we want, do what we want with our own bodies, worship or not worship as we choose, and raise our kids how we see fit.

    Govern based on fact, equality and simple objective logic. If something is to complicated for that approach (like religion) it should be left for individuals to make their own decisions and our government should stay away from it.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Paul

    lol Republicans put the heretic in charge of their party and they dare talk about God!!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • American Democrats

      uh...no...it was Democrats talking about God. We were FORCED to put him back. The vote was illegal. 2/3's did NOT say Yay.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  40. SeanB

    No one knows who God is with or against. No one can know for certain who God even is. To claim to know God is a proclamation of one's own ignorance to the world. God appears to people in different ways and to others not at all. To claim that only your belief of the unseen is the correct one is simply an admission of a primitive mentality.

    We call ourselves Christians, yet we use drones flying halfway around the world to kill terrorists (and whomever happens to be standing next to them) without a trial. However, a pregnancy created via incest can't be ended because that's not inline with our "Christian" values. Let me weight this out...It's acceptable to kill a terrorist and his 20 innocent children with an arbitrary air strike, but it's a sin to end a pregnancy that has resulted from incestuous behavior. Oh ya, you know God alright!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • eddie hurley

      you sound like a true Democrat

      September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      The Bible is explicit that God is with the poor. And Jesus makes it clear that God being with the rich is a remote possibility. Now go look at the platforms.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • American Democrats

        We were forced to put God in against the will of the people!!

        September 6, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  41. maine liberal

    God is also absent from the founding platform . The Constitution
    this was how the founders wished.

    Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the times
    for these exercises, & the objects proper for them, according to their own
    particular tenets; and this right can never be safer than in their own hands,
    where the constitution has deposited it. I am aware that the practice of my
    predecessors may be quoted.... Be this as it may, every one must act according
    to the dictates of his own reason, & mine tells me that civil powers alone have
    been given to the President of the US and no authority to direct the religious
    exercises of his constituents.
    - Thomas Jefferson, to Samuel Miller, January 23, 1808

    September 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Dan586

    My personal beliefs is all religions are man made, so they must be false. I am a seeker of the truth no matter where it takes me, from religions to science I keep looking for the truth. There is only one true beginning of the Universe. Religion to me are locked doors that man don't want us to open. We are just supposed to except it as fact. Science at least opens doors and looks inside.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • sdavis

      Agreed. Religion dates to back animism where early humans attached divine qualities to objects and events they could not comprehend and it's "evolved" into what it is now. Today we can comprehend nature's mysteries. We have no need for religion in this age of scientific enlightenment.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • sdavis

        "dates back to"

        September 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Luke

      Dan- ware dit yu learnt 2 spel?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • FoundTheTruth

      I am 57 years old. I have always struggled with the idea of God, if He is, what I believe and why. I recently came across an intriguing book "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist" by Norman L Geisler & Frank Turek. You may come to your own conclusions, I now know what I believe and why – and I'm still reading............

      September 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
  43. American Democrats

    It is already being stated that Obama "intervened". If this was not voted on and if Obama decided then why even take it to the floor for a vote. This was absolutely despicable.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Debby

    Well God never entered your party either. He was an after thought. SAD

    September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  45. serdich

    THERE WAS NO MAJORITY...THEY DID NOT HAVE 2/3 OF THE VOTES..SO MUCH FOR DEMOCRACY..SHAME.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  46. sbul

    Anyone can say they are for God or have God on their side but God as far as I know doesn't take sides and if He exists then He loves both Republicans and Democrats and again as far as I know he has not told anyone in clear language how he thinks the USA should be run.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clarence Conner

      Obviously, the Democrats denied God by excluding him from their platform. Only after getting criticized did they decide to hold their fake vote. "But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." You absolutely cannot vote for a party that clearly denies Christ, embraces the murder of babies, promotes sexual immorality and false idolatry, and then claim to be a Christian.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • LibertyPlease

        -Clarence Conner

        Actually you can.

        A christian can support a platform without god, because a christian can respect other people's views and not everyone feels the government needs to endorse or force their beliefs on others.

        A christian can support some forms of abortion, because it is not clear when life actually begins. Nearly 75% of fertilized eggs do not become a full term pregnacny naturally. I do think that late term abortions are equivelent to murder, and that not recognizing someone as a distinct individual until they have left the womb is a major injustice. Hoever, the notion that all forms of early abortion are murder seems wrong to me as well. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between, and that determining at what point abortions should no longer be legal deserves and requires serious study instead of people lookign at it as a black and white issue.

        As for the sexual immorailty thing, that's jsut being crazy. Who wants their government to have a say in their personal lives? No one. So the only time you see people wanting something in that area to be ilegal, is when it is a right they do not need. In other words, you don't want the government interfering with yoru personal life, but for some reason you feel compelled to persue legislation to restrict other people who happen to have different beliefs or a different way of life than you. Hoenstly, its straight up pathetic.

        In short, yes, you can be a christian and respect other people's right not to be a christian, just liek you can be a bhudist and respect other people's right not to be budhist, or atheist and respect people's right not to be atheist. Might be hard for you to understand, but I assure you, its very possible, and intelligent people manage to do it all the time.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
  47. TH in TN

    How can God be a part of the Democratic Party when the party does
    not have a problem with partial-birth abortion? I would really like to hear the response from a Christian in the Democratic Party as I know there are Christians in the party.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • SeanB

      Apparently Americans don't have a problem with abortions of BORN children. Almost once a week we blow up a couple toddlers because they're standing next to a terrorist halfway around the world.

      99% of Democrats don't support "partial birth" abortions (not a true description of the medical procedure), however, we support a woman's right to have control over her body. That doesn't mean we agree with the process, it means we agree with her freedom to make the decision.

      What happens if you were impregnated by force, by a man you hated, would you want the government telling you what you must do?

      Republicans talk about freedom from big government and freedom to make their own decisions...except that we must believe only in their God and we must do whatever they tell us to with our bodies.

      For shame...

      September 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  48. American Democrats

    The vote to put God back in was ILLEGAL!! 2/3's did not vote in favor. This was a horrible display of "your vote doesn't count". Take God and Jerusalem back out NOW!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Dan586

    Dear Captain Moroni, I have no issue with any religion, I RESPECT everyones beliefs. What I don't respect is guys like Paul Ryan that twist religion all around to gain political points. If Ryan wants to call democrats Godless then I have to point out his Hyprocrisy.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Tim Beeker

    The reason "God" never left the part was because He never was with it to begin with.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  51. SeanB

    Religion is like a penis. It's ok to have one. It's ok to be proud of it. But please don't go waving it around in public, and please don't try to shove it down my children's throats.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • FedUp

      Funny ... one could say the same about the liberals and their Gay agenda.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • LibertyPlease

        Fed Up-

        Gay marriage is about equality. Endorsing a particular religion in the party platform is not asking for equal treatment, its asking to be elevated asn specifically endorsed. Not the same thing at all.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Trey

    But wait... I thought it was only the republicans that did stuff for show. Remember, we called them clowns for "trying" to display Diversity. Now here we are "putting" God back only to win a few votes. No, we're not hipocrites at all.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  53. jon

    Republicans and democrats both made it very obvious that they don't want god in their party. Republicans and democrats have faith in one thing, money. How can anyone reading the track records of these guys suggest otherwise?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • RH

      We believe in being good to others, working hard, taking care of our family and friends. You don't need a god to be a good person.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • ajk68

        What is this "good" of which you speak? Is anything absolutely good? Isn't "good" just someone's opinion?

        September 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
        • RH

          Being "good" is being kind...whatever you believe. Helping someone when they need you, not judging them EVEN if you don't agree. Being a happy person, being kind to children, black, whites, gays, jews all religions and beliefs. It's really not that hard to be a good happy TOLERANT person. We aren't here for too long. Why waste so much time being angry?

          September 6, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  54. what?

    The problem is the atheists are intolerant of ANY religion and they, along with the tree huggers of the far left, are the loudest section of the party. It's because of the religious persecution and anti-religious message I left the Democrat party and now register as an independent.

    Both parties are messed up, the world isn't black and white, it's time for a new party that doesn't live in the two extemes represented by this dual party system.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • sdavis

      Religious persecution? Are you mad? The vast majority of the country is christian. No one is stopping you from going to church or telling you you can't believe in your god. You want to feel persecuted try being any atheist. Whenever I mention I don't believe in a god people look at me like I have devil horns and a forked tail! Then I get a nice sermon trying to convert me because they are intolerant of my view. I would venture to guess that most atheists are very tolerant of other religions. We just want to be left alone in our world view. I don't care what other religions believe, just don't push your nonsense on me. If we are vocal about our views it's because we're tired of christian trying to push their beliefs and "morals" on us

      September 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • RH

        sdavis...you are 100% correct

        September 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • CharlesUPharley

      Unfortunately, I think your take is misguided. As an atheist, I personally don't care about a person's religion. However, I know to shut the hell of my non-belief because I am rarely, and I do mean rarely, afforded the same courtesy.

      Now, they are exercising their voice, because the climate is more agreeable to being vocal. I think it is simply the fact that you haven't heard them before that you think they are "loud".

      September 6, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • RH

      It's America you can do what you want.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • RH

      what? like I said..it's America you can do what you want and believe what you want. I find that most, not all, of the religious people in my life are very angry and critical. I seem to be the happier more tolerant one of anyone's religious beliefs. Yet they turn RED and look at me as if I should be dead when I tell them I respect them but don't agree. It's a very strange dynamic. I'm happy the way I am....shouldn't they be. Just live YOUR life and leave everyone else alone.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Rick Springfield

    God turned her eyes away from the DP when we elected Clinton, a murderous snake with satanic venom.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Toonces

      ...who balanced the budget, created a financial surplus and a booming economy.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • kckaaos

        No one in the last 140 years or so.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
  56. alan

    Yea and if the Dumbo-crats haven't got caught on national TV, GOD would still be out of their platform and possibly out of their lives and ours. Makes you wander what the Dumbo-crats would do in another 4 years. Erase "GOD" from everything that this country was founded on. It certainly sounded like it last night with all the "NAYS". I know whom I'm voting for and it ain't the lying Dumbo-crats, who got caught with their pants down.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Geoff

      What you republitards need to realize is that god has NO place in government.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • neil

      All due respect man.. your country was founded on the Separation of Church and State. The founding fathers of your country has seen the atrocities that have gone on in other empires and kingdoms when state was tied to the church. This is also why it's the very first amendment to the constitution. It's quite daunting how many people, including these parties forget that. I believe in god and have much respect for the Dems, but that decision was made only based on popular opinion. I guess that's just politics. Anyways, cheers from Canada! :)

      September 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
  57. buzz

    "there they go again" HATEn

    September 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Mopery

    Which god? Marduk? Osiris? Thor? Amaterasu? Quetzalcoatl?

    If you're going to disbelieve those all these other gods, how can you possibly justify belief in some other?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • billf

      Read and study the bible and other historical documents backing it up. Don't just parrot what other atheists say who have never read the bible, never studied the bible and refuse to believe in God because they don't want to be accountable for their lives.

      It's a bunch of garbage – every time someone mentions God, non-believers say "well why don't you believe in this God and that God or his God or her God....". Because is there is documentation and proof for the Christian God, and no way to prove those "other" Gods ever existed.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  59. RH

    This is POLITICS not RELIGION enough of this bs already !!! America is made up of all kinds including atheists...PLEASE talke about REAL issues !!!!!!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • TexasDetour

      Republicans can's differentiate between God and Politics... Their belief in bith cases are based on fantasy.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • neil

        If they are going to tie god to politics and make legislation based on the teachings of God, such as banning gay rights.. does it give them the right to criticize other countries such as Iran if they do the same thing? This is why it's in the constitution to separate the two. It's also sad the see the same Republican Party that abolished slavery, and pushed women's suffrage discriminate against minority groups and shut out women like Sandra Fluke from speaking out about women's rights. :( Cheers from Canada!

        September 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Schmoogalicious

    The Democrat's platform is much more in line with Jesus' teachings than the GOP's. If Jesus were around today, Republicans would call him a Communist.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      Not so. Do you even know ANYTHING about Jesus?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Messenger

      Seriously? Jesus would condone contraceptions and abortions, including partial birth abortion???

      September 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Dan586

    What does Mormonism Teach? Well, here are some of the basics, plain and simple.
    1.God came from another planet
    2.God is a man with a body of flesh and bones
    3.There is a mother goddess
    4.God and his goddess wife are married
    5.You can become gods

    Following is a comparison between Christian doctrine and Mormon doctrine. It will become very obvious that Mormonism does not agree with the Bible. In fact, Mormonism has simply used the same words found in Christianity and redefined them. But with a proper understanding of what Mormonism really teaches, you will be able to see past those definitions into the real differences between Christianity and Mormonism.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • XxMacleodxX

      wow you are all off......where did you get your facts from??? not that I agree with them but spreading ignorance (your opinion) is not the way to go

      September 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Danny Deocampo

      It's NOT about GOD, Christianity, Mormonism, Islam, etc. The issue is Governing and Economics. Stop spending beyond our means. The American people are much smarter than all the series of decoys that are placed by the media to focus away from the significant issues.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • norcimo5

      - Don't forget the magic underwear

      September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  62. OlofOlof

    When Americans enter the voting booths on election day, I wonder how many will vote to "boo" God and Israel and how many will respond by voting, "You do not boo God and Israel on my watch?"

    It is obvious from yesterday's overwhelming "No!" vote that the Democrats have become the noisy party of atheists, anti-semites and abortionists.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  63. sdavis

    Politically I understand why the democrats had to do this. I'm assuming that around 85% of the US population is christian. Thats too large a demographic to exclude. Doesn't mean I have to like it

    September 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Dan586

    HERE IS A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR ALL MORMONS !

    Go to the local Christian Church, there on every street corner and ask them if your going to be excepted by God and Jesus.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Captain Moroni

      Hi Dan586. It appears you are trying to reach out to the Mormon faith. The Lord's church is called "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" in this last dispensation. Yes, that is right...this is the last dispensation before Jesus Christ will appear to His people again. This is also referred as the "Second Coming of Christ" when He will reign on earth again and the wicked will hide their faces in shame.

      It appears you lack some knowledge about the Lord's true church on the earth. Please do not mock His church or His people...remember "God will not be mocked". I encourage you to read sections of both the Bible and the Book of Mormon and compare the passages. They both testify that Jesus is the Christ and this is His gospel on the earth. Remember that in the bible it states, "One Lord, one baptism, and one faith". When you open the Book of Mormon, read Moroni 10-3:5 – this is a promise especially for you. I hope you will be my friend – take care.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • norcimo5

        Take away the middle 'm' from Mormon and what do you get?

        September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Al

    How funny, they really believe their words. Last I checked it was the Democrats that signed off on the Pledge of Allegiance from being said in the classrooms. The words One Nation Under GOD is no longer said in schools and as we know schools are run by Unions and Unions are in bed with Democrats.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greenspam

      Read Matthew 19:24, where Jesus said,

      Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

      Since GOP is pro-rich, it is Anti-Christ.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • womenfly

        The Center for Responsive Politics survey found that 250 out of the 535 members of congress have more than a million dollars in assets. Millionaires constitute (literally) 1 percent of the American population.

        In 2010, the median net worth of a US senator averaged $2.63 million, according to the study. This figure had grown by about 11 percent since 2009, even as the income of an average American fell by between 2 and 3 percent.

        Despite attempts by Democratic Party supporters to present the Democrats as defenders of working people, there are more millionaire Democratic senators (37) than Republicans (30). The median net worth of Senate Democrats was likewise higher: $2.69 million compared to $2.43 million.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Liberty

        What hypocrisy. Most of those democrats in your party who supposedly are public servants are millionaires also.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • sdavis

      The students recite the pledge every morning. "one nation under god" included. Virginia and many other states do not have teacher unions.. And most of the teachers I work with are republicans. Our school system is run by the Virginia department of education which is made up of (R) Gov McDonnell's people

      September 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Captain Moroni

    No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Which side do you stand on?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • YourIsNoDisgrace

      The answer is WE THE PEOPLE! That is what the Revolutionary War and the constitution are all about.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Greenspam

    Don't know about God, but here is what Jesus said in book of Matthews (and other books too):

    17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

    19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

    20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

    21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

    22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.

    23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
    24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
    25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    Since GOP is pro-rich, GOP is anti-Christ.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bubba

      Are you really that stupid?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bible Believer

      Greenspam: Christ is not anti-rich; Christ is anti-sin. In the passage you quoted Jesus knew that the rich man worshipped his money, not God. This is sin because there can be no idols in our lives. For many, money is an idol. But to say that all people with money are anti-Christ is ridiculous and offensive. There are many people in this world that God has blessed with material possessions who use their wealth for the good of many others. Please don't stereotype people. Thanks.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Al

    Wouldn't be too quick to state for God that He did not leave the Dems. He is always seeking the lost....dems included. The question is rather has each person in the platform committee accepted the Lord and Savoir Jesus Christ. Based upon their writings they do not demonstarte a relationship with their creator.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  69. sdavis

    'I Believe in an America Where the Separation of Church and State is Absolute' John Kennedy God needs to stay out of politics and government! Has anyone read the 1st Amendment? Do the two political parties understand that not everyone believes in a god? As an atheist I don't even feel like I'm a part of my own country. Why is the motto of the USA "In god we trust"? My own country's motto does not even apply to me. (A country I fought for by the way). Until someone comes up with some empirical evidence of the existance of a supreme being it should not be accepted as reality and certainly not pushed on everyone. I was hoping the Democratic party would stand by their convictions that our government should remain secular (secular, not atheist. There is a difference) but they caved to christian pressure. No backbone!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al

      You need to Cap God my friend. Your colors are showing

      September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • sdavis

        Al, I showed my colors. I'm an atheist. I will not cap god. Capitalizing it would indicate it's a proper noun.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
        • Cherokee

          Here is another one for you: Hebrews 10:31

          September 6, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • MIke

      I couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for serving and protecting our country!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cherokee

      Your in the bible.....look at Psalm 14:1

      September 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Captain Moroni

    It is ignorant to say that all democrats are not God fearing people but the party itself is furthering its' distance from the principals of God to appease those that continue in immoral practices.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carebear

      As a follower pf Vhrist, the same can be said about Republicans. Dont think for a moment that a marketing plan to include God on your platform means anything. It is all about the vote. god knows who are his.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  71. flyboy7588

    There should be no doubt in anyone's mind after the debacle at the DNC yesterday that the Democrat Party is the Party fo the Unhinged – and I'm being kind.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carebear

      Wow, what a steroetype. I am a followerer of Christ and a democrat . The two are mutually exclusive. God is neither a democrat or a republican.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Bill

    I hope all Jewish voters saw this scene loud and clear. Which party has your back? You can't deny what you saw. No way 2/3 of the delegates wanted the change. So, are you still going to vote for Obama because your mom and dad did?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • asm

      It's sad that you think that whether the Democrats say that Jerusalem being the Israeli capitol should be defining reason to vote against Obama. It actually doesn't matter what we say, and whether it is or is not in Jerusalem does not affect Americans, including us Jews. And whether the platform says it or not has nothing to do with how much Obama and America will continue to support Israel.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  73. David

    The Republicans have become the party of slander and false witness. The Democrats want to revise God's institution of marriage. Neither one is appealing to this Christian.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Geraard Spergen

    God never left the party for the same reason that leprachauns never left the party.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
  75. JR

    God is the problem, when you believe something that is not real, you are what you believe in, Christianity has too many loop holes, conflicts, and of course the nation that believes it will be chaotic, it's cause-effect. simple as that... and for those none-religious people, even if you don't believe, wrong teachings are still a part of your life, you will still be influenced by what's around you. To really have a peaceful and strong society... erroneous teachings must be refuted and put down

    September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Dan586

    HERE IS A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR ALL CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS ?

    Go to your local Church and ask your priest if Mormonism is excepted by Jesus and God ?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
  77. joshua

    further evidence that the Democrat party will say and do anything to get elected knowing they never intend to keep their word. Check Obama's 2008 promise list. He had two full years to pass anything without needing a single republican vote, yet he did nothing. 2 full years with total Democrat dominance of the House, Senate and Oval Office, and what do we have to show for it? As bad as Bush was, we are worse off today than when he left office. Only a liberal, tax and spend Democrat could manage to do that.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • YourIsNoDisgrace

      Hey Repug (like name calling?). Why didn't Bush relocate the embassy to Jerusalem???

      September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  78. YourIsNoDisgrace

    This is from Wiki:
    The Jerusalem Embassy Act, passed by Congress in 1995, requires the United States to relocate its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by December 31, 1999 and that Jerusalem be recognized as the capital of Israel. The Embassy remains in Tel Aviv because the Act also allows for the President to "delay the implementation of the law indefinitely if the move presents national security concerns."[16] Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have regularly invoked the clause, delaying the move of the embassy to Jerusalem.
    The United States maintains a Consulate General in Jerusalem which has offices in 18 Agron Road and on 14 David Flusser Street. The Consulate General in Jerusalem, established in 1844, represents the United States in Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip as an independent U.S. Mission whose members are not accredited to a foreign government.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • YourIsNoDisgrace

      So why didn't Bush relocate the embassy? He was President for eight years.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
  79. abbydelabbey

    The Democrats have not rejected God - they show that they love their neighbor as themselves, that they follow this teaching very clearly:
    Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. Psalm 82:3-4

    September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  80. ourjungle

    DNC....you can say NO to God as many times as you care to......God only has to say NO one time...you will all be guilty by association.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Dan586

    Ask any MORMON if Jesus is the Son of God ? Ask a Mormon how many God(s) there are ? Mitt is a God in training based on the Book of Mormon.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bryan

      At least he knows he's in training unlike the other guy...

      September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • BabyBoomer

      Politics and religion do not mix. You can't govern the people from a Christian dogma platform any more than you can from a Hebrew or Muslim perspective in 21st century USA.. That's why a Christian legislator can support the law of the land, Roe v. Wade, or capital punishment while having personal or religious beliefs that find those practices unacceptable.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Bryan

    The word "Tolerant" does not appear in the King James version of the Bible, or the New King James. It does appear once in the NLT: Romans 2:4
    Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Dan586

    Mormonism is a OCCULT ! Joe Smith is a nut job do some research. The Book of Mormon is nothing like the Bible. You don't see Christian Churches coming out defending Mormonism.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Flatsguide

      So is being a democrat. You have your massiah obama, keep drinking his Kool-Aid!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Captain Moroni

      Neighbors would rather have a Mormon family living next to them because they don't drink, smoke, or have wild parties and they don't get into neighbor disputes.

      In return for their pleasantries, you mock them and call them non-Christians. Those that are Christians on this board..compare yourself with a Mormon. Who is most Christ-like? Do they call you names? When was the last time you helped out your neighbor? When was the last time you helped someone move or give a large portion of your income to charity to help others?

      All because of the Book of Mormon? If it is false? Who wrote it? Who could write a book like that? Here is a section of the book.

      32 Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.

      33 And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot.

      Do the above statements state that Mormon's are not Christians and do not follow Christ? Could you write such a verse?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • FedUp

        Well said.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Common Man

        That whole statement you made shows exactly why Mormons are not representative of Christians on earth. See, you start off with a statement in your previous post talking about being someones friend, but in the end the real truth unravels about you, as you start to judge people, and put yourself upon a peddestal. Jesus, Mohammed Budha etc, never preached of judgement of others, but rather of servitude. You are not accepted into the kingdom of God by your works but rather by your faith. Above all, there is physical evidence of the history of the Bible, the Koran, etc, those are the reasons why they are appreciated and respected by mankind. So instead of judging humble yourself even more, and appreciate and respect the true might of the Lord.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • FedUp

      "Mormonism is a OCCULT" ... wow. Take your hatred and simple mind elsewhere, lightweight.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Good Without god

    Who cares if a god was mentioned, really!?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bryan

      God

      September 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • flyboy7588

      Lots of people, pal. You're the exception.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  85. charles

    Extremisim on both side of the isle. Why would anyone be offended if the word God was included . I feel very sad for the direction this country(moraly) is heading. Its not good not to give a chance to listen to others . this forces some to over look and hurt others. God bless this great Nation and give wisdom to those who still have any feeling to others .

    September 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  86. NCT

    God left the Democratic party long ago when they decided it was ok to abort/murder babies you have no choice, and they decided to allow same-sex marriages. Too late for them now.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken in MO

      That is complete gibberish! God is MUCH more alive in Democratic Party than in the Republican Party. 70% of Republicans also believe in abortion in case of incest, rape and health of the mother. So we know they are not actually against the act of abortion...they just want to make the decision instead of the women. they dont trust women! The nun said it best last night....I will paraphrase. They are "diguising politics and calling it values." She said that the Ryan Romney plan is "ammoral". You cannot be pro rich, anti poor, anti women, anti elderly and anti children and call yourself a Christian. Period!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • nobikiniatoll

      From God's lips to your ears, I assume? I'll bet you're a nosy neighbor, too.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carolyn Callanan

      Amen!!!! Abortion and Homosexuality are an abomination to GOD. Do they not get it, REALLY???

      September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Bethany

    The christian book/god/story has a small amount of value to teach the most basic of morality (don't kill, don't steal, duh) but other than that, what a load of hogwash! Fascinating that 'normal' people actually put their belief in these few words written by a few tribal men on the shores of the Meditteranean a couple thousand years ago. No mention of the universe or our galaxy, let alone the rest of Earth. The Flying Spaghetti Monster religion is really just as accurate, but somehow you don't buy that one do you?

    September 6, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • xnothinbutthetruth

      Well thank you, Richard Dawkins. Always nice to hear your opinion.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Yes, except for the fact that people don't actually believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and it is a rhetorical term which stands for nothing other than ridicule of people who actually believe in something. Christians are aware that not everyone believes in God and that God isn't standing in full view chatting with people in Central Park. Referencing a device like that to tell every Christian what they already know is not particularly insightful or clever. I believe in, but have never seen a lot of things, and so do you, if you believe in scientific advances that you cannot directly perceive yourself. Unless you're a particle physicist at the LHC, you have as much evidence there is a Higgs boson right now as a Christian has that God exists, which is to say a lot of second-hand accounts.

      September 7, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  88. PrimeNumber

    Under Democratic presidents Roosevelt and Truman, about 281000 civilians were bombed in Dresden, Tokyo, Nagaski and Hiroshima. Democrat John Kennedy got the US embroiled in Vietnam, Democrat Lyndon Johnson escalated, and the US lost 58000 people, and some millions of Vietnamese died. Democrats have been busily eliminating over 50,000,000 unborn "potential" taxpayers (while wondering how to finance Medicare!). With this kind of record, the Dems had better distance themselves from God and stop selling themselves as such loving people.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      @PrimeNumber – To suggest that Republicans had no role in any of those conflicts, in any of the decisions that went into those events, to suggest that Republicans have never implemented policies that have resulted in Americans taking lives and American lives is.... come on man. That's just ridiculous.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Luke

        Steve K – are you purporting to be a journalist or is this an opinion piece? It is clear what your opinion is. Even though many democrats reject all religion, they are god-fearing people. Is that the point?

        September 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      @PrimeNumber – To suggest that Republicans had no role in any of those conflicts, in any of the decisions that went into those events, to suggest that Republicans have never implemented policies that have resulted in Americans taking lives and American lives is.... come on man. That's just silly. .

      September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • YourIsNoDisgrace

      You sir are a Liar!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darth Cheney

      Yeah, because we all know what a great record Republicans have in avoiding war on humanitarian grounds. Honestly, how can you function?

      September 6, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
  89. xnothinbutthetruth

    Would Christ support the death penalty? Judge not lest ye be judged.

    Would Christ say "screw the poor.. they're on their own."?

    Would Christ advocate hoarding wealth? Man cannot serve two masters – man cannot serve both God and money

    Would Christ advocate war?

    The thing is – no party has a monopoly on God – and both parties have party platforms that contain items that are questionable from a Christian perspective.

    We are all sinners, I personally find the Democratic platform as a whole MORE compatible with the teachings of Christ... – the abortion issue is the only one that would stand outside of that... and that's also a matter of interpretation – the Democratic platform is not "FOR" abortion.. I am against it – as all are. DEMS feel we do not have the RIGHT to tell others what they can and can't do based on religious reasoning... it's their decision.

    No party has the monopoly

    September 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • NCT

      You do live in a dream world. Both parties are at fault and have forgotten God completely.
      It doesn't matter what God said, only what the majority says.
      I for one still believe that God should be at the forfront of what we do as a nation, because He is the one who helped form it. Somehow we have completely forgotten that.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • goodasyours

      i would say you don't know GOD at all!!!! - you might - might know very little about HIM– please read your BIBLE - find GOD for yourself - not what some one has told you about HIM

      September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Flatsguide

        Say hi to him for me since you know him so well.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken in MO

      To xnothinbutthetruth

      Perfect! Well said!!!! At last a reasonable person.

      How can a Catholic vote Republican when the pope JP2, said that Capital Punishment is wrong? How can they vote Republican when 70% of Republicans agree with abortion on "special circumstances"?

      I too agree that the Democratic Party is more inline with the bible than the Republican party.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  90. KCRick

    I heard the up or down vote on this – there sounded like there were just as many "nays" as there were "yeahs" on this. Not sure that represents the party as a whole, but it was pretty evenly split during the vote. By the way, that was a rules violation. As an up or down vote calls for a 2/3rds majority to pass. Sounds like the democratic machine realized their error and wanted this pass no matter what.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Usually voice votes stand in procedure unless someone moves to have a roll call vote. In this case, those against adding the provisions probably worked out a deal where they could still vote the way they wanted, but the party would get it's way by not actually counting the votes. They probably realized it was just a tactical move that was needed to get them elected and that once safely back in office, they could continue acting as if with the pesky God and support of Israel parts were not there.

      September 7, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
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