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Dems: God never left our party
Democrats pray at a morning gathering at the 2012 Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, NC.
September 5th, 2012
12:51 PM ET

Dems: God never left our party

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

Charlotte, North Carolina (CNN) - Heads are bowed in prayer inside room 211 at the Charlotte Convention Center.

Last night, Democrats put the word 'god' back into their party platform following some strong criticism. For the folks at this daily prayer session though, god and the party never parted ways.

Delegates here are fine tuning the message that you can have deep religious convictions and still vote for a Democrat. It's a puzzle the party has been trying to crack for years.

Christina Forrester is founder and president of the group Christian Democrats of America:

[0:35] “The notion that one party holds a cornerstone on Christianity, that’s breaking and that’s what one of our goals is – to break that stereotype because the reason that we’re Democrats is because we are Christians.”

It’s up to Reverend Derrick Harkins to make sure that people of faith see their values reflected in the party’s platform. He’s the National Director of Faith Outreach for the DNC:

[3:15] “I really believe that people are excited because we’re talking about the ideas that really resonate with people across the spectrum in terms of faith.”

But skeptics like Pastor Robert Parham of Nashville, Tennessee remain unconvinced:

[3:31] “Some faith leaders feel that oftentimes the National Democratic Party on the faith front is all hat and no cattle.”

The trick for Democrats in Charlotte is to bring religion into the public square, but not so much so that it offends people who believe it doesn’t belong there.

How do you view the relationship between religion and Democratic politics? Join the conversation below.

soundoff (716 Responses)
  1. The Truth

    Sorry Greg, but your understanding of history is wrong. 54 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence went to Christian worship services 3 times weekly (so did George Washington). Separation of church and state means that the state won't run the church and the church won't run the state, but "they shall work together for their mutual benefit". "The church shall not run the state, neither shall the state run the church. But make no mistake about it: without the church there will be no state", George Washington. Check out the writings of the founding fathers – you'll be amazed.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  2. DeeCee10000

    I hope Romney wins and deports all of Villargoisa's family back to Mexico.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Bill

    Dostoevsky stated that without God, all is permitted: the democratic party wanted to do away with “God”. But they could see this was not well received so they put “God” back in the democratic platform for political reasons: so Obama can win. But really the democratic party will so state in it's platform again (like Europe) as soon as it can get away with it and it is possible. Thus they will be working under “all is permitted”. For example: for the democratic party...even after a baby is born it may be murdered if it was during an abortion... OK with Obama

    Stéphane Courtois stated that socialist regimes (such as were in Russia and China) eliminated “God” from their societies and made it illegal to worship “God” and turned mass crime (terror and murder) into a full-blown system of government. “All was therefore permitted” and as long as you were at the top of the government ordering murder, or, didn’t get caught – then no problem.

    This in fact is the only way socialism works: first, confiscate others money and property (this can be done by legislation such as raising taxes and setting up a “Death Tax”) and then, when it becomes difficult – past socialist governments then murdered and then confiscated the money and property

    In Russia (Socialist Russia) at least 61,911,000 Victims were murdered (and no one discusses this anymore)

    In China (Socialist China) at least 65,000,000 Victims (and no one discusses this anymore)

    And all socialist countries murdered at least greater than 100,000,000 Victims

    In Germany (Socialist Germany) at least 20,946,000 Victims were murdered (and this is not counting the Jewish Holocaust nor the near 50,000,000 that overall died due to National Socialist Germany's starting and fighting in World War II).

    Yes National Socialist Germany was socialist too… Hitler stated that he would permit business if it fulfilled the States’ needs (like building enough tanks or planes, roads or bridges) but if not, then he would nationalize the industry – which he did… Despite many who try to say that Hitler and his regime were “Christian” it is a historical fact that Hitler hated the Christian Church and he fully planned to destroy the Christian Church (which he felt was Jewish) after winning the war. This is historical fact. Denied but the truth

    We never hear about the horrors of socialism anymore: destroying economies, devastating countries, murdering millions – young people know almost nothing about this. CNN, which appears to agree with the "good" Socialist European model never discusses these issues but suppresses them. But we sure hear how horrible Christianity is and how terrible, racist and oppressive Christian and especially white people are (from CNN) every day. Day in and day out.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nice attempt at slander but you'll have to do better than that

      "I believe that it was God’s will to send a youth from here into the Reich, to let him grow up, to raise him to be the leader of the nation so as to enable him to lead back his homeland into the Reich….In three days the Lord has smitten them… And to me the grace was given on the day of the betrayal to be able to unite my homeland with the Reich….I would now give thanks to Him who let me return to my homeland in order than I might now lead it into my German Reich. Tomorrow, may every German recognize the hour, and measure its import and bow in humility before the Almighty who in a few weeks has wrought a miracle upon us.

      – Adolf Hitler; Closing speech of the campaign at Vienna, 9 April 1938

      "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who – God's truth! – was greatest, not as a sufferer, but as a fighter."

      "As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice . And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery.”

      "The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, *** against an atheistic movement ***, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."

      Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Koblenz, August 26, 1934.

      " I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord's work."

      Adolf Hitler, Reichstag Speech, 1936

      "And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."

      – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

      "Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church." Adolf Hitler, reported to have said in Berlin in 1936, on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism." Impressed with the organization of the Papacy, Hitler is quoted as saying the following: "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits…until now there has never been anything more grandiose on the earth than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party."

      Hermann Rauschning, Hitler Said To Me (1939), 266-267.

      "In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.

      "Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross."
      etc. etc. etc.

      As for your attempts to link (presumably) the modern US Democratic Party with the actions of genocidal maniacs in Russia or China through (presumably) nothing more than your definition of the word "socialism", I can only paraphrase the legendary Inigo Montoya: "That word. I do not think it means what you think it means". First, the definition is yours, as in, say, Obama's adoption of ideas (like the healthcare mandate, or cap and trade) which came from conservative think-tanks, which you then go on to label as "socialist" or "communist". Second, if you really think the Stalinists are coming to get you, or the Cultural Revolution is coming to America if a Democratic President is re-elected in 2012 and his party hasn't sought to weaponize religion quite as fervently as the other party, then you really need to take the Fox News slot that was vacated by Glenn Beck a while ago, presumably because he was obviously insufficiently hyperbolic and paranoid.

      As for Dostoyevsky's quote, the problem is, in your paranoid Christian-America world "all things are possible" too, we just all become hostage to what YOU decide the creator of the universe wants. In the bible, he supports slavery throughout and Numbers 31 is God's own blueprint for genocide. Is THAT the morality you want to impose on us all? Not to mention that the modern-day GOP is decidedly unsupportive of many key things that were preached in the gospels, like taking care of the weak and meek, turning the other cheek or forsaking wealth (camels, eyes of needles etc.). So it becomes completely self-serving, doesn't it? Precisely why the founders sought to build a wall of separation between religion and politics in the first place. MR. JEFFERSON: BUILD UP THAT WALL!!!

      September 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • doug

        So Hitler, a National Socialist, perverts Christianity and distorts its texts to fit his needs, just as the National Socialist party in America known as the Democrats.

        The great society is on its National Socalist path of death and distruction, just look at any of the districts under complete Democrat rule for the last 4 decades like Detroit and Camden.

        When you look at what the Democrats want for America you see why all of those Americans who give the highest percentage of their wealth to charity, charity that actually does good unlike the Democrats great society counter to the civil right act, are all Republicans.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
        • Nice attempt at slander but you'll have to do better than that

          ...as if the GOP's version of Christianity isn't a hideous distortion – quite often the reverse in fact – of the finer parts of the gospels.

          All around the world, religiosity correlates positively with poverty, disease and child mortality, and negatively with GDP – with the highly religious sub-Saharan African and Middle Eastern countries like Afghanistan leading the way in economic and cultural backwardness, and religiosity. The developed Western nations – including the UK, Germany and other northern European nations, Scandinavian countries, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are the wealthiest nations in human history as well as the most secular and least religious in human history. The USA is an outlier and regarded as both wealthy and more highly religious than other Western developed and wealthy nations; however it is the only one with an explicitly secular constitution, operates on an almost entirely secular basis in business and government and is practically both far more moderate at the median than the worst examples above, as well as increasingly secularizing – now at least 15% nonreligious, up from well under 5% in a decade and a half. The same inverse correlation is true regarding red states vs. blue states and GDP, against which references to Camden and Detroit are what's known as the cherry picking the data.

          Jesus supposedly told us to forsake all worldly wealth and goods and to

          September 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  4. DeeCee10000

    Villargoisa: "I respect everyone's vote, but the people's opinion isn't as important as MY opinion."

    September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Really?

    God left the Dem party long ago. Thier platform has become about ignoring god, promoting homosexuality and blaming others. The Erection in Chief gave a stinted speech at best last night. O is DONE!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ash

      If Romney would have left God out of his platform CNN would have crucified him. CNN has become so extremely Bias. I now look everything up to get the truth myself and make my own educated decision without the help of the media.

      September 12, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
  6. oneandun

    Democrats have no morals.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Hindu

    HELP THY NEIGHBOR - means you yourself help you neighbor - like a true christian ... AND NOT WAIT IN THE GOVT TO COME HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR - like a liberal ...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  8. obama is Out Of Touch with reality

    So what night are the Demoncrats burning the bible?

    September 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeeCee10000

      Villagoirsa's disgusting behavior makes politicians look like the lowest life-form on the planet

      September 6, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      That's done behind closed doors. It would be problematic for thier "image".

      September 6, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOHNNY TRIGG

      IT IS ONE OF FOUNDATIONS OF OUR COUNTRY, TOTAL SEPERATION OF "CHURCH AND STATE" THIS IS HOW IT HAS BEEN AND MUST REMAIN, TO KEEP US OUT OF KILLING ONE ANOTHER IN THE STREETS, BECAUSE OF WHAT RELIGION WE ARE, AS IS THE EVENTS IN SO MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Truth

        Your understanding of separation of church and state, and the understanding of those who our constitution, bear no resemblance. Perhaps you should check your history before making such unfounded statements. Start by checking out the writings of the founding fathers.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • The One

      Well that better make sure to include all other religion's holy books in there just to be fair to everyone lol

      September 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Mark Gale

    I believe in god and while I am not a christian the democrats offer the best option in allowing me to worship god as I choose.
    But then again my Jewish views make those two faced Marjoe's cringe. Where is Dyke Cheney now. Now that he is out office all of sudden he supports gay marriage. The Republicans need to quit trying to play to a small group that most of them really do not believe in and just say what those people want hear to get votes.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Grey

    "God never left our party"
    You can't leave something you were never in!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Thabo

    Why didn't you capitalize the name God in your story? A lower case g demonstrates disrepect. Was that intentional or just a mistake? Just like taking God out of the platform. It is either intentional or it is a mistake that someone who respects God would not make.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeeCee10000

      What is "disrespectful" are the mo rons like you who don't know what separation of Church and State mean. This isn't Iran or some other f**ked up theocracy. You idiotic religious beliefs have no place in this country's political system. Get over it and if you don't like it move to Iran.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Truth

        Clearly you don't understand what the separation of church and state mean. The founding fathers intended that the church wouldn't run the state and the state wouldn't run the church, but that they would govern themselves and work together for the benefit of the country as a whole. Do some checking on the writings of the founding fathers.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • YES

      Can you imagine the backlash if Mohammed had been mentioned and was not capitalized. Regardless of your views, forgetting to capitalize God in this article is poor grammar as he is being referred to as a proper noun.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  12. ChavaKhan

    God never lft your party? Really? Did he or she or it tell you this?

    September 6, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Hindu

    Anna - a real christian is who understands the life, message and teachings of Jesus Christ ... even if he is a Hindu. external designations do not matter - it is the substance that counts ... inner spiritual substance ... not using God like a diaper to use, abuse and dispose off ...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      We used to have a Hindu family in our neighborhood. He got mad at his wife and stabbed her 27 times, she died, but he thought his honor gave him the right to do it. You sound just like him. We need to stop people like you from coming to this country.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hindu

        cindy - you are using one bad apple to judge the entire basket? how ridiculous and low class! you sound like a typical hateful and angry liberal woman who dont know their self-interest ... what to speak of others. and you support illegal immigration while speaking against legal immigrants like myself ... shame on you!

        September 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • BobbyJindal

      Hindu, your attempt to understand Christianity is very warped. If you don't like to current president, just don't vote for him. But keep your twisted understanding to yourself. A diaper? really? Grow up little man!

      September 6, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hindu

        Yes Obama wants to use GOD like a diaper to use, abuse and dispose off ... you cannot have your cake and eat it too ... he cannot go against all Christian principles by supporting abortions and gay marriage and then try to use GOD just in time for elections .... on basis of POLLS. I bet if polls showed there was no need to re-insert God into platform ... he would not have done so.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • BobbyJindal

      Sooooo...your without substance then. Now it all make sense. By todays standards in the GOP, Jesus would be a Socialist and they would not embrace him

      September 6, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hindu

        Jesus is not a socialist ... compassion and helping others is personal .... HELP THY NEIGHBOR means you go help your neighbor personally or through your charitable organization ... did Jesus say WAIT FOR THE GOVT TO COME AND HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR - like liberals?? Did Jesus talk about socialist govt? Jesus was not interested in politics .. he was interested in uplifting our personal character ....

        September 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  14. tm

    Hindu – Give it a rest! Your hate is very un-Christian. For me, being a Christian, it is only possible to be a Democrat. I don't see that republicans worship anything but money. They certainly don't follow Christian values in their treatment of others, or "me first" selfishness. Seems to me the Romney/Ryan ticket needs to spend a lot more time with their bibles and less with the Ayn Rand books. And I get very tired of the "pro-life" arrogance, given that republicans appear to care less about babies once their born. I used to think that it was hyperbole to think republicans would gladly kill babies if they could make money off it, then I found out is was actually true. Google "Nestle boycott" and see what you learn. Make sure not to miss how the republicans defended Nestle and blocked action against them because it would hurt their "profits".

    September 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      This whole forum sounds as if it coming from the Middle East .."my religion is better than yours" Sunnis/Shias, the republican party started this whole mess by trying to portray themselves as somehow more godly than the Dem's.
      And now we see peolple bombing clinics and killing each other in the name of God. Our founding fathers understood the importance of "Sepration of Church and state" for htis very reason.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Hank

    You have to feel sorry for the good God-loving folk that have no clue the liberal elite thinks they are beneath them for the simply believing in a higher power.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  16. frank

    after yesterday i know realize i have not left the democratice party, the party left me

    September 6, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeeCee10000

      F**k Villargoisa. I've decided I'm voting for the other side just to spite evil mor ons like Villaraigosa. I hope Romney wins and deports all of Villargoisa's family back to Mexico.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Hindu

    To Obama God is like a DIAPER ... USE and DISPOSE .... until the next election cycle ...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      You are starting to smell like incense!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  18. coderjones

    which gods are we specifically talking about here – they change with tide so let's be specific – when you say god has never left the party – to which god are you referring? God of tax slaves? God of greed and indifference? God of genocide?

    September 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  19. alex

    I understand the 'God' part, but really are Jews that stuck up that Isreal and Jeruselum have to be a part of it too? WTF? Why not include Native Americans and true Americans which would make more sense since this is AMERICA. Look Isreal..your track record is no better than your enemies so stop trying to force your beliefs into my countries politics. I'd never agree to say that crap, and shame on the Democrates for caving, just like that flag pin, I wouldn't wear that either cause last I remember, what happen in Pearl Harbor where's that pin or the Fed Building in Oklahoma, or all the troops killed in Korean, Vietnam, Iraq....REALLY, its all about 'some' but not all.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Jana

    When asked by what name He should be called, God replied, "I Am that I AM". He exists simply because He exists. His existance is not dependent on anyone's belief, opinion, desires, wishes or political platform. Political platforms are a joke. They are used by a political party to manipulate voters to vote for their candidate who they will ultimately blackmail into working to promote the party's line by withholding that precious campaign funding if they do not. You're voting for a party not a person. However, If I were a christian sitting in that building at the DNC where others were booing my Lord and Saviour, I would hit the floor running and not look back....just as Lot did. God is a loving God, but He is also a just God and His wrath is a terrible thing. It's time the Christians in this country quit worrying about hurting someone's feelings and stand up for God's principals..not a church or a preacher's principals but God's principals. "I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me" John 10:14

    September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  21. ORChuck

    "Dems: God never left our party," so reads the headline.

    On the night before the famous Battle of Jericho, Joshua had trouble sleeping so he got up to take a little midnight walk. Suddenly, there appeared before him a soldier whom he did not recognize. The soldier was in full battle gear with his sword drawn and poised to strike Joshua. Clearly, this soldier "had the drop" on Joshua.

    Joshua asked, "Are you with us or against us?"

    The soldier replied, "Neither. I am the commander of the Lord's Army!"

    God is neither for us or against us; we can be for God or against God.

    God does not take sides; God is a side to be taken.

    God never left the Democratic party because God never joined the Democratic party. The question is not whether or not got ever left the Democratic party. No. The question is whether or not the Democratic party left God... and if they have returned.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joseph

      nicely said!!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Hindu

    Anna, Kitty and Cindy - women claiming to be Christian fooled by Obama's agenda ...

    Truth is that most woman want to settle down with a man who loves them ...

    Most women have inherent desire to have children with that man and have a family ...

    Very few women really want to live a life of meaningless sleeping around - that feeds abortion clinics ...

    So obama agenda actually support a deviant view of women's life and not their real desire to have kids and family with a man who loves them .... a deviant life style that obama supports is actually not in best interests of women.

    those women fooled by obama's agenda will vote against their own self-interest and of their sisters and daughters ...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      You sound like one of those Hindu Indians that want to create a caste system in the US. You are the kind that kill your daughters because of honor. Go back to India. We do not need your kind telling American women what they need.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hindu

        Cindy - you put all hindu stereotypes that you learnt in school into that post. shows you know nothing about true hinduism or any other religion. go ahead american women - vote against your own interest and happiness ... what i stated is true ... no woman can deny what their real desires and needs are ... but if you want to be brainwashed by liberal political agenda ... go ahead ...

        September 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joseph

      well said Hindu

      September 6, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  23. phearis

    What ever happened to the separation of Church and State?!?!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • ORChuck

      As much as some would like them to be, the Democratic Party is not the State.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeeCee10000

      Control freaks like Villaraigosa don't give a rat's as* about "separation of Church and State". He's like the backwoods religious fanatics on the far right who believe this country should be made into a theocracy.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jana

      To be frank there never was a "separation of Church and State"; at least not in the way its being shoved down our throats today. The founding fathers didn't want there to be a National church as there was in England so they withheld that choice for the individual....HOWEVER, the principals on which our country was built are GODLY principals. That is why God has blessed our country.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joseph

        I agree, there is a misconception about "separation of church and State" Some believe it means the absence of God in State. It has gotten so bad that we are being actively prevented for being able to outwardly show that we acknowledge the existence GOD.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  24. ryantorgeson

    I would like the platforms of both major parties to have exactly as many references to God (also to Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible) as the Const¡tution that all our elected officials have sworn to uphold and defend.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  25. beancounterz

    Lets see, the GOP says don't look at our platform, its just empty words and not a reflection of our party's position in the election. Then the GOP complains that God is not included in the Dem platforms. So, this means that the GOP considers "God" an empty word. Figures. That explains Ryan.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeeCee10000

      Villaraigosa: "Okay delegates, let's vote. . . .oops, that was the wrong way to vote, delegates. You were all supposed to say "yaye" not "no" but I'll go ahead and pass it anyway since your opinion and votes aren't really that important to begin with".

      As long as disgusting liars like Villaraigosa remain in power I'm voting for the other side. F**k him and everybody else who supports his evil behavior.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Sivick

    The democrat party is actually more in line with the teachings of jesus than the GOP. Jesus taught us to take care of the sick and the poor and he said nothing about discriminating against gays or immigrants. When asked about taxes it was Jesus who said "give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give unto God what belongs to God." a line the GOP never seems to mention. If Jesus was alive today he would be a democrat.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Jeff

    I know that there are progressive Christians out there, I come from a family of them, including a minister. Heck the entire concept of Social Justice came from the Catholic church. It was the from the pulpits of Protestant churches that ideas of the Progressive era and the Civil Rights era were preached. If you read the four main gospels yourself you'll see a Jesus that was sort of the worlds first hippie.
    Conservatives don't own patriotism, they don't own economic growth, and they don't own faith. What they do have in large amounts, that modern liberals and progressives are missing, is backbone. Democrats needs to channel some FDR and Johnson into their platform. Even a little TR or Ike would be good at this point.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Hindu

    Democrats only believe in USING, ABUSING and DISPOSING off GOD ... until the next election cycle ...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • phearis

      Better than the militant psychotic bible thumping GOP.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • JeffinIL

      OK, I have to know. How does a mere mortal abuse the creator of the universe?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • BobbyJindal

      Hindu – time for your medication...God says so!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Harald Schmidt

    If anyone is GODLESS, it is the Republican party pandering to... Tax cheats, greedy billionaires, hiding income in offshore accounts. But what is most insulting, forcing their GODLESS sick greedy ideology on us the 99.9%. Beware of Republican BUZZWORD such as "BALANCED BUDGET", how do you balance the budget when the likes of Mitt Romney pay no income taxes at all?

    September 6, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Hindu

    what does it mean to be Christian and following God? according to democrats - nothing!!!! God is only a convenient term to use during elections to win votes .... Obama.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      What makes a Hindu an expert on the Christian religion?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Luke

    What I would like to know is why the Democrats are allowed to fly American flags at their convention. Also, please be advised that conservatives give much more to charity than liberals.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Hindu

    This is an "opportunistic God" they re-inserted into platform to win votes. In principles, they do not believe in God or His laws. But heck they would use the dictionary word God because it is ELECTION TIME !!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Aezel

    "God" never left or joined anyone's party. He'd have to exist first. It speaks to how far our culture has NOT advanced that people still take a superstitious book written by goat herders 2000 years ago seriously. Join the 21st century people, grow up.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • pat

      Technically advanced enough to go to the moon yet the first thing they do when they arrive is to quote genisis.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • PinMoneyPete

      Actually, the ONLY time a MAJORITY of humans DIDN'T believe in God was when they were Neanderthal. Perhaps it's you that needs to get with the post-Ice Age.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Truth

      You and the truth aren't on very intimate terms, are you?

      September 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  34. babooph

    Dems only have God,Republicans now have GODS& a brother [Satan]for Jesus..

    September 6, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  35. perrrob

    Like the Taliban, The Repuglican Party is a blight on the face of the Earth ... ... a Babble in one hand and a gun in the other.
    How dumb can you be ... stop the inbreeding you retards.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • PevanB

      Wow, someone needs a nap! I would encourage you to be a little more tolerant of the people that have ideas that differ from yours. You only hurt your cause.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Hindu

    Democrats wants it both ways - they want to be party of the atheists, gays and abortionists but still do not want to miss out on christian vote. How pathetic! they are just waiting for polls when it shows that it is completely safe to omit God from platform and then I bet they would not try to re-include God in their platform with a farcical voice vote

    September 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • How so

      This is exactly the big misunderstanding both parties claim to be the party of ALL the people right? The fact that Democrats openly acknowledge gays, blacks, poor, illegally born, women, middle class, small business owner and others as groups they support INCLUDEs ALL people not a choice of BOTH ways. Their is NO both ways, it is the American way or NO way. You make your choice.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  37. JeffinIL

    Call me when God actually endorses a political party anywhere on the planet.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Anna Kia

    I am a born-again evangelical Christian voting for President Obama. I am pro-life personally, and I believe homosexuality is a sin, but I don't believe in legislating my personal convictions in a free country that was built on religious freedom for all. I believe God Himself gives every person alive the right to make choices, even if those choices do not align with His will. He is not a control freak, but respects people's right to choose, even when it comes to what they believe about Himself. If God Himself does not force people to live by His standards, but gives them a free will and lets them face the consequences of defying what He has instated if they choose, then why can't we Christians back off and stop trying to force our personal convictions down the throats of those who believe something else? I am truly grieved by the way some Christians feel justified in being so disrespectful and close-minded about where other people are coming from. I expect to win others to Christ by being respectful of their God-given right to decide things for themselves. This includes decisions about how one conducts their sexual morality as well. God has spoken on the subject of sex- He is grieved when we deviate from His plan, but He allows people to exercise their free will, even in direct opposition to His intention for their lives. I say, let people make their choices, as they will answer to Him someday and not me. As a loving Christian, I have strong convictions about what is right (according to God) and what is wrong. I believe that those people who don't share my beliefs shouldn't have to live by them. Not everyone will agree with my convictions, and as Americans who value religious freedom, they shouldn't have to. From my perspective, I think perhaps they are somewhere else in their journey towards understanding what pleases God most, and I for one, do not want to stumble them by failing to understand where they're coming from with a sincere and open heart.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hindu

      nonsense Anna Kia. But you would vote for a president that believes in legislating ABORTION and GAY MARRIAGE that you say you dont believe in? Is that not same as legislating someone's opinion on you? what nonsense!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • How so

        When the positives outweigh the negatives you have to support Obama from a deeply Christian perspective. Obama, cares that the poor eat, he cares that the sick get healed, he works towards peace and communication in the world not war and deafness. The sheer numbers of people that Obama would help with his truley Christian values is 1000X higher than the people that wouldn't be helped by his plan. If your going with Godliness and good economics Obama is the only way here.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mo

      Anna Kia .. So it's ok to support a person put a low to kill other person (or helpless babies) ?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • How so

      So by your own faith in God you realize it is Gods job to judge, not man's, or a political platform to claim the higher ground under GOD?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kitty

      Very well stated, Anna Kia! Love your post. This is exactly how I feel as well. I honestly don't think I could have stated this any more eloquently than you! :) May God bless you and may you continue to speak in your christian-based belief.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      This is a true Christian. She trys to lead a good life and she lets God be the judge.
      Luke 6:37

      “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

      September 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      Thank you Anna. I am also a born again Christian who is voting for Obama, but does not agree with gay marriage and is pro life as well. I respect his intentions to help those who cant help themselves and speak up for those who dont have a voice. He is trying to level the playing field for EVERYONE while the repubs are just trying to win the game...by any means necessary. They are actually a bunch of hypocrits who do not practice what they preach. Love your brother and sister as yourself, and stand up for the poor and struggling.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Raze

      Well said. It is nice to see a Christian out there still capable of using their brain.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  39. ImIrish

    God never left the Democrat party?

    Right. And I believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Winning

      @ImIrish

      "God never left the Democrat party?

      Right. And I believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too!"

      The irony of this post is too much.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Dan586

    But republicans nominated Romney a Mormon who doesn't even believe in the Christian Bible. Talk about Hyprocrisy

    September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mo

      He don't kill any one

      September 6, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Perry

      Mormons believe in both the Bible and the book of Mormon,

      September 6, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cindy

        1.
        Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
        Mormons may be in trouble with "Joseph Smith."

        September 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • babooph

        And many Gods & Satan as Jesus brother & Egyptian death documents as the "new Abraham texts" and wives not going to heaven without the husbands ok ,& a later prophet more important then Jesus,& a "specialist" who talks to the GODS & directs them & & & ...

        September 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug

      Lib liar and hypocrat(no such thing as a hypocrite who isn't a Democrat anymore).

      Republicans support every American who has values and makes a positive contribution to society, whatever religion they choose is their choice and irrelevant. We don't even care that you worship a National Socialist named Obama, we just want the truth to be known about him and about you.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • john

      Dan,
      Mormons consider the Bible to be the word of God. Specifically, we use the King James Version of the Bible. Not sure where you're getting your information, but it's incorrect.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • soccer1rises

      Your comment shows how ignorant you are. I am a Mormon and the King James Version of the Bible is in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints canon of scripture, I read from it often. Some people of other Christian Denominations erroneously try to say what we do and don't believe in, and that we are not Christians. Just like with your post, almost every time they are wrong.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Jerry

    Dems., for your health and safety, once you "poop" in the water, you should not try to drink it. It may be pandering, but it's just not healthy for your "souls'". You may want to simply admit to the lies and fixes and hope that the American voters have short memories.

    OK, Obamamites, yo are now allowed (permitted) to come out of the woodwork!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Mo

    What God they talking about that kill babies and have gay marriages .. defiantly not my God

    September 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Lars

    Tired of a president who turns his back on faith, panders to foreign enemies, disavows our allies, spends without any budget, skirts Congressional powers with an immigration act, increases the cost of my healthcare (causing my employer to drop health benefits), and raises my taxes. Time for a change in leadership.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Carolo

    If Israel has claimed Jerusalem as it's capital, that's their business. It has no bearing on us being friends of Israel and our support of them. It's just something else to cloudy the waters. God was mentioned in every opening and closing prayer. A Catholic nun spoke at the Convention. Many speakers said God Bless the USA, etc. Conventions are not about Religion, they are about policy. And there is no more reason for us to mention Israel's capital at our Conventions than any of the other countries capitals.

    Israel is our friends and always have been. They were not booed at the convention, but the voting process was. The Democrats are the Party who recognizes all people no matter what color they are, where they come from and who their God is. According to our Constitituion that others have forgotten.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Gene Thompson

    The issue is not faith, but separation of religion and government. The Democratic party emphasizes this separation as necessary for ensuring that we all have the freedom to worship as we see fit, whether we are Christian, Jew, atheist or other. It is not unreasonable therefore that many felt it was not appropriate to include "God" in the platform. Suppose, for example, you are a Christian of a minority denomination (Mormon, for example), and the government decides that that denomination is not acceptable. Suppose the government decides your faith is evil because its ideas conflict with the majority faith. Suppose the government decides people of your faith must be persecuted. The Democratic party feels it is important to separate government and religion to ensure our religious freedom.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      If you truly want separation of Church and State, then only elect atheists into government. Otherwise, asking those of faith to leave out their religious beliefs when making decisions is impossible.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • E J Royal

      Gene, Christians already have had to deal with minor persecution in this country. Kids can't pray silently in school because parents claim that their kids are being offended or pressured to participate. Hogwash! Silent prayer threatens no one of a sound mind. Or how about Christian couples who decide to homeschool their kids? The government acts like they are enemies of the state. How more involved in your kid's education can you become than to be teaching them yourself? Besides, the public educational system is getting worse rather than better, no matter how much money is thrown at it.

      People praying does not automatically mean that you can know what they are praying or to whom they are praying. The God that you are praying to may not look anything like the God to whom I am praying. It is a bad assumption on anyone's part to make. The Democrats basically have believed that God desires believers to be political activists, to work at creating the kingdom of heaven through sociial engineering and social reprogramming. They have overlooked the fact that the kingdom of heaven is God's domain only, He has not asked us to strive to create it through out own efforts.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Hindu

    Democrats: you dont have to practice Christian principles to claim to be a true Christian. abortion is OK. gay marriage is OK. But, heck it is ELECTION TIME and LOOK - we are God-friendly .... vote for us please!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan586

      Hello Romney is a Mormon who don't even believe in the Bible. They have The Book Of Mormons

      September 6, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Roger

    Maybe we should just let the Dems. have their way, you know let them continue to abort babies and have gay marriages. Then in about 3 or 4 generations from now, there won't be any Democrats left.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hindu

      wrong Roger ... they will claim your kids through the "secular" education system they have crafted for that very purpose ... they dont want to make babies ... they will simply steal your kids for their agenda ... just look at what all the university going kids are brainwashed into ... liberal politics

      September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Hindu

    Democrats dont believe in God - they are only using word God to try win the election in November ... how pathetic! exactly what is wrong with Obama and democratic party - following the polls without any principled leadership. real leaders influence polls and dont follow polls. USING GOD FOR THEIR ELECTORAL ARITHMETIC = LOW!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      And Republicans DO believe in God? Have you checked Jesus' attitude towards the rich in the NT? Have you noticed that the republican party CATERS to the wealthy? Have you noticed that they have an intense hatred of the poor? All of that contradicts the teaching of Jesus of Nazareth.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan586

      Republicans have Mitt Romney who thinks the Bible is 100% false and republicans are calling out democrats on God. WOW ! I guess Mitt is their White Knight and John Smith the founder of Mormonism is their new savior.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • john

        Dan586: Please stop lying. The 'founder' of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was not "John Smith" as you wrote. It wasn't actually even Joseph Smith, the first prophet. Oh, and if you were to ever go to an LDS chapel and ask to see someone's scriptures, you'll probably see what is called a "Quad". If has the "Doctrine and Convenants", the "Pearl of Great Price", the "Book of Mormon", and the "Bible" (King James Version). To say that LDS people think the Bible is 100% false is simply a lie.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  49. David

    After reviewing factcheck.org, does anyone think God is on either party's side? Last time I checked, lying is still a sin.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Komedy with a K

    So why did the Dems "Boooo" when they said "In God We Trust"??

    I don't get it.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • mattinacan

      they were booing doubling back and changing the platform after the fact, the the content of the change

      September 6, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Logic N LA

      More conservative bull- That was never done.
      6Linda49- I think you're confusing the tow parties. Republican exclude everyone that does matxch their ideal. The democrats are inclusive. don't believe that, just look at footage of the two convention floors and then read the article of what two delegates did to the black female camera person for CNN. They threw peaunuts at her and said thats what they feed thier animals. Very Christian.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • jackthegeek

      Thanks Mr. President in putting back God in context. That's how America was founded, and has to remain that way. These morons come to this country and wanted to change it, then they are welcome to leave and we don't need undesirable people.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Lars

    DNC Platform:
    Gay marriage is OK
    Lord or religion is OUT
    Israel is OUT
    Raise taxes on middle class OK
    Continue spending and raise the debt OK
    Decrease funding to support military troops OK

    This is the party of the people?? Time for a change.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      RNC platform

      Steal from the poor to feed the rich
      Send gays and anyone who isn't a fundamentalist Christian to a concentration camp
      BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN

      September 6, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • doug

        This Obama-bot Micheal seems to have a malfunction, please send it back to Moore-on(dot)org to be re-programmed its hate and lies, thanks.

        BTW, concentration camps are used by National Socialists, you know Obama's ideology.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  52. trturner

    As a moderate, I find this very disheartening. The party of reason over superstition is pandering to the superstitious. Alas, the fall of democracy.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug

      Oh yes, the 26 people shot in 36 hours in Democrat 100% controlled Chicago (for the last 4 decades) is known as reason.

      You can call it that if you want but it is really called the great society, the trap democrats have used to hold back poor minorities and render the civil right legisltation useless for the last 4 and a half decades, the genocide Democrats conduct in Democrat controlled districts all for control and votes, which is the real reason why no true Christian votes Democrat. In fact every religion seems to have a section in their text where they say how wrong it is to act like a Democrat does.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Hindu

    The party of liberals, LGBTs, abortionsts and atheists needs GOD's blessings to win this November. What an irony!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      They may win but it won't be because God blessed them.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • vtski

        Some times the devil wins. He did in 2008.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
        • Mark

          LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cindy

        You think you can speak for God? Don't spend much time reading the Bible do you?

        September 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • matt

      Hindu – you are a very silly person

      September 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Michael

    There are people of many faiths and beliefs in this country. This makes some people feel uncomfortable, along with the fact that those people have freedom of speech and religious rights. Sorry, but the founding fathers intended for it to be that way. Everybody else shouldn't have to cater to Christianity in order to have their voice be heard. We shouldn't have to blindly give Israel the stamp of approval on all things. If there are democrats who believe in God, great. If there are those that don't, that's fine too. They shouldn't be pressured into pretending to have a point of view that they don't really have just to appease xenophobic Dominionists.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  55. TexDoc

    That was an embarrassing moment for democrats. Godless, and party that thinks I belong to the government. I'm sticking with republican individualism.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • clownposee

      Agree 100% percent. This is the point that swayed me to the republicans.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • How so

      Godless? Because the Democrats also embrace a diversity of religions like, muslims, hindus, pagans, christians, buddhists, Jews as well as diversity of race like Black, Latin, Asia, White, Native etc and a diversity of sex and sexual orientation to our platforms is neither godless or embarrassing. To question your faith, to ask if what you support is still right today as it was yesterday is what separates the Democrates from the Republicans. The Democrats live in the here and now and Republicans want to live in 1850. It is simple Im going forward not back. Obama 2012!!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • E J Royal

        You obviously do not spend time talking with republicans, do you? You appear to simply accept what the Dem party bosses spew out in their neat sound bytes. In reality, neither party has been effectively representing "we the people." The Left Wing liberals simply want their entire agenda to be implemented nationwide. The President is not in a position to resist their demands forever. So he says that he wants to negotiate with the Republicans on pressing issues, but tells them that they can't alter what is on the table. Huh? Me, I would tell the man "No" every time also. Where is the give and take from both sides on the important issues facing this country? I haven't seen much of that in years. Oh, and let's not forget that it was Congress who forced the mortagage lenders to hand out high risk loans, because they wanted everyone to have a chance at owning their own home. See how that intention turned out? Economic collapse. Presidents don't run our country, it is Congress. As long as everyone stays focused upon presidential elections rather than who is being elected to Congress, this country is in deep trouble.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      1.) Democrats don't believe that anyone belongs to the government; that is a finely crafted, often repeated, conservative lie.
      2.) You should realize that "republican individualism" is an oxymoron. Conservatives, by the very definition of the word and by their actions, are conformists that use either social bullying or military strength to enforce their subjective version of what they think is universal truth.
      3.) I support your right to worship as you see fit, but a government for the people, by the people, has no room for antiquated philosophies. Humans vote, write laws, enforce the laws, and build our economy; we do it our selves and should take pride in that.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  56. wwrrd

    I know some very faithful Christians that are Democrats. They basically are those that feel a connection between helping the poor and all of the Democrat ideals of government assistance.

    Atheists are another significant constituency of the Dem party. They work to get rid of all mention of God from public discouse. They pushed this deletion of God. The problem with Dem christians is they are of a liberal bent and see tolerance and acceptance of athiests, agnostics, and other faith as trumping any need to publicly recognize their own faith. These other groups have far less tolerance for Christianity than Dem Christians extend to the other groups.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      Funny how you complain about intolerance when you blatantly generalize another group and try to stoke the fires of hatred against them.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  57. doug

    This is America folks, each Democrat has the right to pray and worship their god who happens to be speaking tonight at their convention of Christian hate.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Cindy

    Republicans forget to read the Bible –
    Luke 6:37

    “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

    Only God shall be thy Judge.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  59. mactsr

    I thought only Republicans could be Christians. Have I been brainwashed by the Republican party for the last 40 years.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Don S.

    Perhaps god has never left the Democratic party, not so sure about God, spelled with a capital G.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Greg

    I guess the Constitution means nothing to the conservatives. They're the ones who claim that they are fighting for the Constitution and Dems are destroying it. Ever hear of Separation of Church and state? God shouldn't be part of either platform unless you're from an Islamic country.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug

      So then the 2 hour islamic prayer that kicked off the DNC convention makes sense because Democrats like you believe America is an Islamic nation?

      I thought Obama had a slip up when he told George Snuffaluffagus about his "muslim faith". lol, I wish he were, Obama as a William Ayer deciple and puppet of Soros has no religion other than National Socialism, it's funny how we pretend to ignore what we already know.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      The constitution doesn't say anything about "separation of church and state". It says the government shall not form a church. Period. People participating in political groups should be allowed... no... incouraged to express their religious beliefs. I think it helps the electorate connect with their potential candidate. The DNC screwed-up badly with this whole thing. Nancy Pelosi with her interview on CNN about the mess certainly did not help. She came off as as shrill and unlikeable.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Truth

      You need to see what the founding fathers wrote about the separation of church and stae – it's not what you seem to think it is.

      September 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Cindy

    The Dems pushed God out. God does not condone abortion (Murder) nor the homosexuality lifestyle. Like it or not, that is the truth according to God's word.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      Luke 6:37

      “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

      September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Romans 1:

        For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Christian Democrat

    He without sin, cast the first stone! I know that's in the Bible! All of us sin, and we do it daily! Most republicans do not represent Christ! Christ was not about division! And He surely would not tolerate the lies and deceit that has been spoken by Romney and Ryan! We are all God's children, and He loves us equally!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      And there are no lies and deceit from the democratic party? They are both the same.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cindy

        Be careful, God can see your Soul!

        September 6, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sailor101

      You say that God would not tolerate the "Lies and deceict" from Romney and Ryan...but god would accept the Lies and Deceict from Obama? Grow up and accept that all politicians Lie (yes even Obama). Are you really that clueless?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  64. lex

    Democrats know that atheism is the religion of the fututre. Atheism is where gay rights were in the mid-1990's.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  65. myspaceyourface

    Day 1 at the DNC: They remove God and Jerusalem as part of Israel from their party platform. (after catching much heat for their decision)

    Day 2 at the DNC: The reinstate God and Jerusalem as part of the Israel to their party platform. (the crowd boos the decision)

    Day 3 at the DNC: They claim God never left the party platform. (are you serious)

    September 6, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Jim

    It doesn't sound like God completely left (at least the hearts of some party members) of his own accord, but there have been plenty of efforts to drive Him out of the Democrat party and out of the country.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Roger

      I would say that a party that allows things like abortion and gay marriage to happen, has completely lost God.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Judith Vaughan

    The issue of abortion has become a rallying cry for the right wing in politics. Actually, it is virtually a non-issue. The Supreme Court decided this issue many years ago. A Constitutional amendment has no chance of being ratified by enought states, even if it were to somehow get passed by Congress and approved by the President.
    As for morality in general, the New Testament is quite clear on this. Christians are to behave according to certain standards but are explicitly told not to judge non-Christians in these matters. Christians are told in the New Testament to help non-Christians and to tell them about Jesus.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Carlin123

    He never left our party! We just hid him in the coat room.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cindy

      And you pull Him out when you think He might get you some votes. What a bunch of bs.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cindy

        Spoken like a true Christian woman.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  69. jasoncdanforth

    Religion and politics should never be bedfellows. I'm pretty sure its some form of sodomy anyway...

    September 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • OE

      God did leave, God would not let a scum bag like Clinton take the stage....Just ask his wife!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Elvis

    The Democrats are in full voter pandering mode. They boo and protest when the name of God is included in their platform and even vote it down, until the higher-ups realize they may disenfranchise Christian voters. They bring a nun to speak in support of ObamaCare (really abortions) in an effort to reach Catholics. Does this nun have authority from the Pope or Church to do this? Finally, a few months back the Secretary of State Clinton wouldn't answer the question if Jerusalem was the capital of Israel. Now concerned about Jewish voters it is back in their platform. I wish they would quit pandering and stand up for what they believe (or don't believe.)

    September 6, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  71. m

    the democratic party is sickening.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • perrrob

      The Repuglican Party is populated by lunatic inbred retards.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  72. plush

    So is it god, or God? Kind of like from Groundhog Day, I am a god, but not The God.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  73. The Eternal Satyr

    Yet another reason why I don't vote and never will again. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? Is that yet another lie perpetrated by the Giant Farce that is American politics? Duh. I say, instead of voting, why don't all these religious idiots just pray to "God" for their party to win. That would settle things, wouldn't it?

    Just like ancient Rome, the American Empire's church has the state by the balls. Pathetic.

    There's a lot more I could say but, really, what's the point?

    September 6, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Sy2502

    Like Martin Luther King said, I have a dream. I dream of a day in which government will only mention the law and the Constitution, and religion will be a personal and private matter.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  75. DavidW0909

    If God never left the Democratic Party what were all those jeers and boos when they voted to put God back into the platform? I think maybe your in denial.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Loathstheright

    I would be happier if they would use reason and not believe in something that has never existed in the first place.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Jason

    Separation of church and state anybody? You can believe in what ever deity you want but stop trying to shove a law that came from a religion down everybody's throats.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Christian Views

    And then you realize Democrats are pro-choice and for gay marriage and you realize that has no place in Christianity. Awful

    September 6, 2012 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Gay Christian

      don't judge, you're not God. God commands love one another not judge one another.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Eternal Satyr

        "Gay" and "Christian"? LOL!

        Make up your mind. You can't have your beefcake and eat it too!

        September 6, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sailor101

        That mind set is why our society is where it is, i.e. flushed down the toilet! When we as a society stopped judging each other our morals went down the tubes. I want to be judged and I will juedge everyone I come into contact with, I expect to be held to my virtues, I expect others to remind me of my values. Otherwise you get people who will say..I am a murderer but you can't judge me or I'm a gay pedifile but you don't have the right to judge me. I say BS to that, we need to be held accountable for our actions so please, please judge me and if I step out of line I want you as a member of society to remind me that I am out of line and that my actions are not acceptable. Then I am reminded that I need to correct myself.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      Keep your christian views at home, ok?

      September 6, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • chad williamson

      And then you realize you believe in a magical story book written by people who thought the Earth was flat. When your IQ rises above 100, then you can vote, before then please don't.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • perrrob

      Christianity (and any other religions) have no place in politics. You are AWFUL.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  79. sjbm

    As a christian i could not vote for a party that removed the name of God and booked when it was back. Republicans help people too but I have to answer to God. If you can honestly do that know what the platform stands for I have to wonder.BTW I am a black woman. The views are much to extreme and hatefilled count me out.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
    • sjbm

      I mean booed...I value and respect god more than that..

      September 6, 2012 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  80. Bill Leslie

    Only CNN could do a 5 minute piece begging Christians to vote for the Democrats without mentioning abortion. Simply shameful but typical.

    September 5, 2012 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick Portland

      Are you kidding? CNN is another super pac for the Democrats. Fair & balanced journalism left this organization long ago.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  81. alf564

    Hey, the Dems put God back and remade Jerusalem the capital of Israel. They are just so amazing these Dems.

    In some of their eyes I do believe Mexico City is the capital of the USA

    September 5, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Ex-GOP Con

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    As a Christian, I do not feel that just because the Democrats are fine with abortion that they are forcing me to get and abortion. The Democrats are fine with wearing poly-cotton blends, but they are not forcing me to wear it against my beliefs. They believe in helping the needy and the poor and that is something the Republicans are fighting vehemently agaiinst. Therefore, this Christian will be voting for President Obama and the Democrats in November.
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    September 5, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • elritchey

      You may feel that way but the truth is that the so called Outreach of Faith has a pretty short reach. Why have pro-life Democrats been excluded? Why was Planned Parenthood given access to the email list of the delegates to promote their program but we were told we couldn't use that email list for our program? So, it isn't a Big Tent. It's a big bus and we are sitting on the back of it. It's pure hypocrisy to be using Christianity for political makeup while you are excluding other Christians who don't agree with abortion policy.

      September 5, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • imeubu

      Wow!

      September 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      So in your view the terminating of a life for reasons of convenience is on the same level as wearing poly-blends? Please I beg you... stay with the democratic party.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  83. San1

    I am a Christian and a moderate in my political views. I talk about this issue with my friends and family all the time! We don't understand why Democrats are having such a difficult time balancing their act. I concur with what Gov. Patrick said last night: "it’s time for Democrats to stiffen their backbone and stand up..."

    Republicans are not the party of the Christians. In fact, Republicans have done a very good job at distorting scripture to the point of cultism and they've gotten away with it. On the other extreme are the modern Democrats or the "liberals" who have done everything possible to alienate Christians by continuously slamming in their face policies they know very well go against Christian values. But here's where I stand – I reject all attempts to define my Faith by the two wedge issues of Gay Marriage and Abortion. Those are divisive and very personal issues that remain regardless of policy so I rather stay focused on the bigger picture and the things that Jesus Christ stood for: the poor, oppressed, disenfranchised... the least of these.

    How to be a Christian and vote Democrat isn't really rocket science. The Dems have to do a better job at including moderates and Christians in the Social Justice discussion. They also need to limit the pander to their own base. Case in point was the frequency in which every speaker last night invoked gay marriage and abortion. Emphasizing these issues as signal accomplishments of the Presidents' term alongside the auto bailout, health care reform, bin Laden killing, etc. frankly, is unnecessary. His base already knows this. The Christian community needs to be included somehow in the larger discussion. Perhaps a reminder (not just in church) of the values that guide our community would be a good start. And also maybe some education of where the philosophies that inform and guide many of the Republican leaders wouldn't be a bad idea. Philosophies such as that of atheist Ayn Rand whose teachings stand in direct contradiction to the Bible. Rand advocates a law of selfishness over love and commands her followers to think only of themselves, not others.

    I'll get off my soap box now. I pray for the union of our country, its leaders and for the health and betterment of our people.

    September 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      San1, you're articulated very well the problems with the two political parties' appeal to Christians in this country. Thanks!

      September 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • elritchey

      I agree with this. But the truth is we are not being included, just used. Did you know that pro-life Democrats went to the platform committee meeting in Detroit? And did you know that we did not receive one sentence, one phrase, one word of anything we asked for. And the Democratic Party thinks we are supposed to just step in line and be good children? That time is passed.

      September 5, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • prolifeDem

      @San1, Thank you for your reply. As a pro life Democrat you have given me hope that I'm not alone out there. I agree with everything you said.
      I'm also frustrated that the Dems keep appealing to their base... Do they think their base is going to vote Republican??? Why not focus on issues that are important to moderates and independents? Leave the controversial topics for the Greens :)

      September 6, 2012 at 1:24 am | Report abuse |
    • pat

      AMEN, San1!! I, too, am a Christian democrat who is able to think outside the very narrow box of a "platform." Thanks for sharing your views; I couldn't have said it better myself! President Obama has my vote and confidence in taking care of the least of God's people.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  84. v_mag

    @myviewis said: " it is not all about just helping others."
    --
    It's not a puzzle to me why many "Christians" won't vote for a Democrat. Those people are not Christians. They are Pharisees in the guise of Christians. Anyone who truly follows Christ couldn't possibly be deceived by the Republicans.

    Where did I learn about Christianity? From my Southern Baptist preacher grandfather. He taught me that a rich man can't get into the Kingdom of Heaven because he is greedy. He taught me that the second most important commandment is to "love your neighbor as yourself", and then went on to tell me the story of the Good Samaritan.

    For an example of the distorted idea of Christianity, look at the posts of 'myviewis'. If there was ever a person with a non-Christian outlook, that person exemplifies it.

    September 5, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • elritchey

      You are quite mistaken. Did you know that the 85 pregnancy care centers in NC that provide medical care and support before the birth and LONG after the birth are run almost exclusively by Republicans. That is the problem in our country isn't it. We are so used to throwing one liners, rhetoric and distorted information that we don't even stop to check the facts. No, I don't agree with many of the R's policies but I also don't discount what they are doing which is good.

      September 5, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
  85. KILROY

    republican does not equal Christian and vice versa. I am a Christian democrat because I think the economic and other national policies are better for America than the republican platform. I do not agree with gay marriage or all the other planks of either party. Anyone that says they agree with all of a party's positions should either run for office or they are not using their own judgement.

    September 5, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  86. prtyofstupid

    First, being Christian is a choice. God never told us that we "had" to believe- it's a choice. As such, a choice over one's life and one's decision is not that of the government nor of anyone. We (the people) are the not one's judge, jury, or creator when it comes to one's own "religious" decision. In the end, if you believe in God then let him do his job as Judge. You do as Christ said "love thy neighbor." Otherwords, stay out of people's business if that business is not impacting your beliefs, family or home. Honestly, I'm not sure how someone else decision will make my life better or worse.

    September 5, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul

      "God never told us to believe its a choice" Seriously? This is dealt with in Chapter 1:1 of how to be a Christian.

      September 5, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  87. reneeinINDY

    yes you can be a christian and vote democrat. One I believe just as Our Father has let us make our own decisions. we should also let fellow citizen make their own decisions. FREE WILL. i do NOT agree with abortion nor same sex marriage but I DO agree it is NOT for me to demand one to believe what I believe. GOD doesn't. when it is all said and done and judgement day is here. it will be only you and God not the republican or democrat party or anyone else for the matter giving the reason for your actions. so the religion part is personal and should not be the reason I vote for or against a politian it should be if they are going to better life here on earth for me and mine.

    September 5, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  88. teej

    I am a Christian and I want the world to know that people like Mr. Huckabee, and for goodness sake, Michelle Bachman, do not speak on my behalf. They know nothing of my walk with God, and how He made me whole (according to how I was broken, not according to their perception of what a Christian is). Christians are not the spiritual police. We are not to go around judging people. We are simply to lead by example.

    September 5, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Todd

    Abortion is the issue that is keeping Christians away from the democratic party. Your faith says live begins at conception, you support rules that allow destruction of what you consider to be unique human life. There is little wiggle room here.

    September 5, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Religous&Democrat

      I am a Christian. I am a Democrat. Yes, God does say that he knew us even before we were born. He also says that For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. In Acts: Jesus Cares for the Poor and for Those Who Care for the Poor. I believe there are Christians who are both Republicans and Democrats. The Republican's seem to use their faith for votes and believe they are more worthy to be a Christian. Isn't there something about judging in the bible too. We're ALL sinners.

      September 5, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Religous&Democrat

      I am a Christian. I am a Democrat. Yes, God does say that he knew us even before we were born. He also says that For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. In Acts: Jesus Cares for the Poor and for Those Who Care for the Poor. I believe there are Christians who are both Republicans and Democrats. The Republican's seem to use their faith for votes and believe they are more worthy to be a Christian. Isn't there something about judging in the bible too. We're ALL sinners.

      Thou shall not kill. Yes, that is a commandment. We also kill by not providing Health Care to everyone. There is no wiggle room there either.

      September 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  90. 6linda49

    This has nothing to do with the relationship between a person and his God.An effort is being made to have democrats look like republicans as far as their faith goes. By this standard it is okay for a republican to vote for a democrat.This only works if your audience is dumber than dirt.If not for Christians ,this discussion about religion would be against the law.The only reason we need to know about a man's faith is that it is a predictor of his future actions in a given situation.For those of you faithful democrats who believe in God, you will remember His admonition that you shall not take the Lord's name in vain. If you use the name of the Lord to gain favor or position and you are not saved and he doesn't know you, You just broke one of his commandments. The Word says, if you break one, you have broken them all. Someone may need to drop to his knees and ask forgiveness. I will challenge anyone to show where the Bible tells us that the government should help those who can't work.Jesus instructed the man who wanted to follow him to sell all he had and give it to the poor, not to the government !! If you give a poor person $100.00 ,he gets $100.00. If you give that $100.00 to the government to give to the poor man, he gets $75.00 at best.That is a 25% bird dog fee for Uncle Sam for finding a poor soul to help.You don't need Uncle Sam for that, people without jobs are everywhere...One last illustration, if a horse comes up to you and tells you that he is a lion, you have good reason to doubt; however, if that horse had lived his life as a lion,you might be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.Don't tell us you are Christian, show us how you have lived your life and how you have treated others, regardless of party or belief...

    September 5, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • kamal david

      Wow, you are pretty good in explaining this from a Christian's point of view. But, remember, you are following a voice that says the earth's 10k years old. Climd out of the well, there's a whole world out there! IDIOT!

      September 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • b4uheis

        kamal david

        by the way that's 6k -10k yrs and if you did your research instead of putting down others beliefs you would see that archaeology and science agree with Gods account of creation. you look to evolution and darwin. remember we are all creatures of free will and we can choose to believe what we want. don't rain on others belief because they choose to live counter to what you believe.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cindy

        God's word and story says nothing about the age of the earth. The 10,000 year thing comes from the far-right religions.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • reneeinINDY

      with all that you said....tell me why Jesus stop the Pharisees from stoning the lady CAUGHT in adultery? Just would like to understand your point of view a little

      September 5, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • prolifeDem

      How do I, as an individual citizen, make sure that no one falls through the cracks? Yes, my $100 dollars could go directly to the needs of a poor person but how can I make sure that the money is put to good use? Should I research and develop my own program to make sure this person doesn't become dependent on my giving? Even Christian organizations like Compassion International have to take an administrative fee for organizing their programs. As a Christian and a government paid social worker I'm offended that anyone would think that I'm just giving away government money. We use programs like "Bridges Out of Poverty" to help people become self sustaining and restore their self respect. Do you really think people want to live in poverty? I'm so sick of listening to people demonize the poor.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
  91. Eric

    Islam controls the political forces of the countries it dominates. Christianity has always been a part of the U.S. From presidents who had graduated from seminaries to holding church services in the white house. The difference now is that christianity is a hollow name with many claiming it but very few living it. To be a true Christian is to detest, yes detest all that God detests. God says what he detests very clearly in the Bible. In my mind you cannot support what the democrats support and be truly a Christian. There choices are in conflict with God.

    Now to be a BORN AGAIN believer, it would be impossible to support the Democratic party and love God. If you Love God you do what He says.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rebecca

      Amen!!

      September 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  92. rla

    Guess the way this is worded democrats see christians as another minority

    September 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  93. sonny chapman

    Anyone who tries to follow the Hard Words of Jesus as found in the Four Gospels, should at least recognize where Christian Democrats are coming from. If you don't, maybe you are hanging on to the Mammon or the dead too tightly. The underlying message of those Words spoken by Jesus is to Love each other as the Father loves us. Treat each other & judge each other as we would want to be treated & judged.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eric

      Sonny...... The Bible and the words of Jesus and the Apostles are written to "Believers", not everyone in the world. God does not love everyone as alot of people think because of sin, tho He wants to. All that you quote is what Believers are to do. The Bible says to judge those in the Church that continue to sin but we are not to judge the world or non-believers, God will do that.

      You need to find a church that speaks the whole unaltered word of God and not the tickling ear messages so many preach. The feel good message to keep the cash flowing into the churchs.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • tuesday

        Correction – God DOES love everyone, but sin is a barrier to the sinner's salvation. Given an opportunity – everyone would be saved and brought into God's light. But his love is for everyone – not just the Believer. I'm a Christian AND a Democrat – yes, you can be both!

        September 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
        • Rebecca

          Homosexuality is an abomination to God. Abortion is killing life that God has given. You can not support a government who believes these things are the RIGHT of man which clearly goes against God. It is straddling the fence, it is being lukewarm. God says he will not know you if this is where your heart sits. I would rather not vote at all then cave in to any side that is clearly against God

          September 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • reneeinINDY

        wow. so do you read the bible....all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. so at some point you were a sinner and when do you think he started loving you? When You on your own will start believing on HIM? Really? The answer is NO... Wow. you need to read a little more and allow God to interpert for you before trying to pass on your knowledge. Praying for you......

        September 5, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • b4uheis

        Eric,
        You stated "God does not love everyone as alot of people think because of sin, tho He wants to." You have spoken out of context to scripture. God loves His creation, he hates and detest the sinful action of His creation. Why would a sovereign God not love his creation. In Genesis in the creation story He said " And God saw everything that he made and behold it was very good...." Genesis 1:31. He sent His only begotten son to die for those sinners.

        I don't know what church you go to but line upon line teaching is an awesome thing to do stop doing the topical's and getting things in context is a lot easier although topicals do have there place it should not be the main type of your getting a good teaching on whatever day you attend church. Stay away from 90% of mega churches.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Kaci

    Who cares? I mean, religion should have nothing to do with how you vote!

    September 5, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Monty

    This article is weird to me... of course christians can vote for democrats but christians can also vote for republicans. As a person of faith I won't be voting demotratic for this election because in my opinion Obama hasn't done anything to improve our country. He promised change when he was running last time and he made changes... if they are good or not is up to how you feel about what he has done in office. I can't in my right mind vote for a president that after being elected had his citizenship questioned, who hasn't passed a budget for the government but just kept amending it over and over and also was waiting so long that the military didn't get paid... I don't know if alot of people have forgotten about that but when you are fighting for your country I think being paid isn't something you should wonder if it will happen or not... I just can't vote for Obama this time around.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chat Pata

      Why is it weird? It is the Republicans who say if you are American and Christian, you have to vote Republicans. They do not recognize Obama as Christian and American. However they do recognize the cultist Mittens as Christians, and Schwarzenegger the Austrian as American.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Renee

    I have known many people who are Democratic Christians and Republican Christians. Tenets of the faith are represented in both party platforms. However, the Republicans have admittedly created a more hospitable environment in government for the free practice of Christianity, which is why I think more evangelicals vote Republican. Additionally, often times, people who are Christians are forced to choose between which tenets are more important to them, i.e. do I care more about full spectrum human rights or more about educational funding? Can government assistance be given to our generation (who admittedly needs the help) without bankrupting the future economy of our children? People want to be good stewards and helpful to those in need. These are hard decisions. And I think these choices often times govern the choices regarding how faith fits into political alignment. People choose which aspects of the Christian faith are most important to them, and subsequently select their party. Because, as we all know, neither party is a true or consistent representation of what Jesus taught or who He has asked us be.

    September 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marsh

      well said Renee.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • b4uheis

      Renee,
      You pretty much hit the nail on the head. It's a tuff choice when you don't have one solid choice, everything in politics is gray.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  97. alf564

    And how do Christians do this when the NEW Democrat platform is void of God, Gays are in a marriage cycle, and Israel appears to have been abandoned ....

    September 5, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dannyboy

      You said it alf564. I mistakenly jumped on his hope baloney last time, and I wouldn't vote for him again. He threw all Christians under the bus with his policies, his decisions,and his bedfellows. Vote him out!

      September 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christine

      Thomas Jefferson, in The Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom, wrote:

      "Be it therefore enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in nowise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities."

      Can be read in its entirety here: http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.html

      September 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Perry

        What Jefferson wrote means no coersion to support a state church, which was then dominant in Virginia and other states. No tax to support any religious body. He means that you may, or may not, support, believe in, any religious establishment. But he also wrote the Declaration of Independence which state that we are: "endowed by our creator."

        September 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  98. yannaes

    Makes no difference, I am not voting for this dude....His only legitimate platform is getting the young, of whom live in la la land and Kansas to vote for him. Those people of whom depend on the system for their existence, and of course the emotional of whom fail to understand the Critique of Pure Reason....

    September 5, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  99. GB

    There is no question that there are many fine Christians who are Democrat. Contrary to what some would say, being a Democrat doesn't void your Christian card! However, as a whole, I don't know how the Democratic Party could be more inhospitable to faith. As a party, they routinely ask Christians to check their faith at the door and support policies that are incompatible with many people's practice of their faith...abortion, same-sex marriage, paying for contraception...then insinuate that you are a bigot or somehow unenlightened if you don't go along. Seems to me that the Democratic Party has had to choose, and you can't have it both ways. You can't "bring religion into the public square, but not so much so that it offends people who believe it doesn’t belong there". It doesn't work, and the Democratic Party will continue to alienate many people of faith as long as they try.

    September 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Shirley49

    I left the Presbyterian Church when an interim pastor said in his sermon that you could not be a good Christian and be a liberal Democrat.. I am a liberal Democrat, and I am very religious. I have a deep faith. I think the Democratic platform is very "Christian" – helping others, including everyone, caring for the elderly and young, encouraging people who can afford to pay more – to pay more - sounds like Jesus's teachings to me.

    September 5, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christine

      I agree with you, Shirley49- I am a Christian and a Democrat for over 40 years, but most Republicans think that helping others, including everyone, caring for the elderly and young, encouraging people who can afford to pay more – to pay more – is socialism. I guess they are going to have some explaining to do.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • James Kronewitter

        Shirley49 and Christine, You are both off the mark. Because you do the same thing that Democrats are always doing; you are insinuating that us Republicans do not care for the poor or the elderly. As a matter of fact, truth is, we attend Church, hold our elected officials to a Christian moral code that eludes Democrats, and are first to share MORE, yes in the latest Poll REPUBLICANS give more money to Churches and charity than Democrats. We gladly take care of others, even mean spirited Democrats who use any excuse to hate on us Christians. Barac Obama and Democrats ought to put their money where their mouth is...open your wallets and match Mr. Mitt Romney and Republicans in our support of the poor and helpless in our society.

        September 5, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
        • Greg

          James, you're missing the point. Separation of Church in State. Keep your religion out of my politics. I am not a Christian, I am an American. I don't want to follow your Christian rules. I want to follow American rules. It was spelled out pretty simply in the Constitution. Don't give me this crap about the founding fathers being Christian. Not all of them were. Most of them were greedy rich land owners, slave owners and adulterers, and those are just the Christians.

          September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • myviewis

      There is more to being a christian than helping others and caring for the elderly and young, it is also about being against abortion, it is about being pro-life, it is about recognizing that a child's life is in you and it will die in the abortion. Christianity is hard, it is a commitment to serious choices, it is not all about just helping others.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jason

        Where in the Bible did it say that you have to be against abortions and contraception of any kind in order to be a true Christian?

        September 6, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
        • Hindu

          Yes, Jason where does it say in Bible that one has to respect the ten commandments to be a true christian. One can do anything he wants and still claim to be a true christian, right? Especially just in time for elections to get votes ...

          September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Greg

        Okay, so conservatives fail in the aspect of helping others while liberals fail in abortion.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
        • Hank

          It's your opinion that conservatives fail to help other. Reality is the opposite.

          September 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
        • Hindu

          Greg - conservatives really believe in helping each other without depending on the Govt to do that for them.

          September 6, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
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