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January 28th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

NYC hit with huge wave of homelessness

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

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(CNN) – New York City is experiencing its largest wave of homelessness since the Great Depression.

The spike started following cuts to a government rent subsidy program. Ironically, the impact of having to provide shelter to more than 20,000 homeless children each night is costing the city more money than the cost of the subsidies.

[3:37] “It costs $36,000 a year to shelter a homeless family in New York City. In comparison, a rental voucher is $10,000 a year. So it’s more than three times more expensive to have that family in shelter than it is to give that family permanent housing,” said Patrick Markee, a policy analyst at the non-profit Coalition for the Homeless.

Ester Fuchs teaches Public Policy and Political Science at Columbia University. She says it’s a prime example of how seeking short term solutions to budget problems can result in more tax dollars being spent down the road.

[4:03] “They’re going after what used to be called entitlements and they are not concerned with the ripple effects down the line for state governments or for city governments.”

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  1. PetePete1

    Obamas Dream Act.....Now YOU have to deal with it Bloomberg....Ha Ha Ha!

    January 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Sandra LeVin

    @ Ari – "john kerry supports increasing taxes on people like (and including) himself."

    That's why he parked his yacht in Rhode Island – so he could avoid paying taxes to Massachusetts.

    January 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • hht878

      Yes, but when the public found out, he paid the docking fee/ taxes or whatever.

      January 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. time is moneyjames.hotz@att.net

    My parents never did a thing for me, stole my inheritance from my grandma, left me in a boarding school, I had to mow lawns, collect pop bottles as a kid as my old man would take us to the beach to gauck at the women and never gave us a dime for a snow cone. At christmas my friend and I would go out in the freezing cold to sing Christmas carols for a hand out. My mom never even gave me $7.00 for a student body card , and made me late to class every day. My first car was a real piece of shitt, I worked in restaurant washing dishes for school, and the jerk let me go cause he had a relative who needed a job. i had to go to Vietnam and see 100 Marines come home in body bags. My step dad left me in his bankruptcy, my old man lost everything in the stock market, my mom died of breast cancer and left me her husbands bankruptcy. My exwife became a alcoholic and divorsed me for a married man. In 1992 I had to buy another house as the courts sold my home and the earthquake demoslished the new house. But I still give money to the poor, what the hell might as well throw that away to, you can't take it with you. But today I'm doing ok thanks to the Lord, you know you always have the Lord by your side. Thank you Jesus.

    January 28, 2013 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeffrey Batchelorian

      That sounds so pitiful. What do you want-pity? Did you spend nights on the streets? Obviously you are not too poor-or you wouldn't be able to respond with your i-phone or laptop. Whats the matter with you? Try going to Solo Indonesia or the Favela in Rio and then tell the world just how bad your upbringing was. Don't you think this was all part of Gods' plan for you?
      Not trying to be mean-my apologies, however there are people out there with really big concerns.
      Jeff

      January 28, 2013 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • chuck wagon

        @jeffrey doesn't sound like time is moneyjames.hotz@att.net is asking for pity at all. It appears he has had a tough childhood and life and through it he is "Thankful" as alot has been overcome!

        January 29, 2013 at 3:12 am | Report abuse |
  4. Anthropologist

    naturally,they are dark skinned individuals.

    January 28, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Ken

    With the exorbitant rent in NY, a lot of people with be homeless, something needs to be done with the exorbitant rent.

    January 28, 2013 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      Simple problem to solve by our insightful politicians. Ban high rents. Surely that will solve the problem.

      Next problem to solve?

      January 28, 2013 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  6. lance

    LBJ, for all his faults, understood the concept, and the wisdom, of the basic, no-frills "safety net" –as he so colorfully put it–"Nobody shoots Santa Claus".

    January 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Peter Q Wolfe

    The irony Melly is that I've had a harder life than many homeless people on the street and surprisedly lived threw it. I was starved, beaten, raped, temporarily homeless, resident of womens battery shelters and had a drug/alcohol problem so have it rough too. Surprise shows cause you'd know my mother died of cancer complications cause of being addicted to crystal meth and my sister died of an overdose like three months ago on morphine. Let us think we know hard times shall we then?

    January 28, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Peter Q Wolfe

    I find it with Melly and otheres accuse me of being a hypocrit for being on welfare. Did you know little Melly that my paid over $600000.00 in taxes for owning three small businesses and an uncle was at one time a millionaire. This is what you get for your baseless assertions that amount to nothing. Couldn't we make the future generations lives better like in China by controling population instead of the poor making themselves even poorer by being stupid? Honestly 70% of all blind people are unemployed vs your 7.2% odd amount? A last thought carry me from my boot straps of a very unaccessible internet, software and overall business world scheme? By the way, I'm looking and am continuing employment with the federal government right now.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
  9. joe

    They must have kicked them out of New Jersey

    January 28, 2013 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Ernest

    If this woman has been in the system for three years being homeless, can someone answer why is she expecting another child??? Yet she seems to like the system, that is the problem. People have to be responsible for their actions number one why bring a child in the world if you can't support yourself and don't have a decent place to live. Just throwing that out there.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      Because if you have a child, you will get subsidy, look at the case of the octomom

      January 28, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Out

    The problem is believing someone else is going to take care of you- government in this case. that's the big flaw- If you lie in NYC and about to go homeless- get the heck out of NYC go to where – workers are needed. Texas florida arizona – all booming – 95% workers are mexican – an american man can do just as well. Then you will get a aycheck, work late- work 2 jobs – have your kids understand the reality of the situation and that they need to be art of the team. Do what your grandparents and they're grand parents did – roll up your sleeves and Fight! it's called life

    January 28, 2013 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      It's because increasingly there is a belief that people are "too good" and "above" the jobs that are out there. Why work when they can "get by" with subsidized rent, federal assistance, etc.

      Every once in a while in my lunch break, I need to run some errands which can only be done during the business day (bank, post office, etc). Sometimes I drive through a neighborhood, which has a predominantly african american population, and I'm amazed at what I see. Noon during the work week, and the streets are full of men in their 20s and 30s, who are sitting in groups of 4-5 outside their homes, chilling and bs-ing.

      They don't look handicaped. They don't look like they're dressed for work. They just hang out there doing nothing.

      I believe the solution is to continue to hand these people money (rent subsidies, etc), but only in exchange for doing work for the state or federal government. Our country's infrastructure system is aged and at this point inferior to many European countries'.

      Make these able-bodied bums work if they want to continue to get money.

      January 28, 2013 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Charlie

    This is all Bush's fault. Tim Tebow had his part in this too by subverting the confidence or NYC politicians. We need to fix this great injustice by raising taxes on the rich(those making enough money to pay federal income taxes).

    January 28, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      Yeah, let's go after President Bush and Tim Tebow! That should solve all the problems of the world :)

      January 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Common Sense

    I always wondered why people who can't even feed or shelter themselves have children. It seems like all the people in this nation who plan their families are not breeding and the broke and uneducated continue to multiply.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ax

      Its logical..homeless cant afford dr visits, meds, or birth control. Some homeless turn to prostituting (fe/male) as a hustle. No birth control street sex is a greater potential for babies. I.e., homeless children. Its simple logic.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Carol

        You can purchase birth control pills at Walmart for $9 a month with no insurance. I know this for a fact, as my daughter buys hers there. And $9 a month is cheaper than raising a child, even with assistance. I do not begrudge people for wanting a child, but I do begrudge them for having four or five or being pregnant when they are homeless. We are a middle class family who made the decision to have only 2 children because that is what we could afford to support.

        January 28, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
  14. JOE

    Ask cuomo and bloomberg

    January 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Jay

    It's to bad the conversatives on this board, instead of bragging about how much they give to charity, wouldn't take that money and hire people at a living wage, so people could afford rent.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • independent

      ha – the average earner lived above their means the last 10 years – its not an income problem, its not an expense problem, its people having trouble choosing to have their expenses lower than their means.

      Live in a place and in a style you can afford.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • kws11

      You really think that everyone who isn't supporting our bumbling, wasteful, not-too-bright, over-spending, union-crony government has enough money lying around to HIRE MULTIPLE PEOPLE AT LIVING WAGES?!?!?

      We need some kind of minimal IQ/awareness test before we let people vote. No wonder people think that Jerry Brown and Barak Obama are "the answer".

      January 28, 2013 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • JohnH

      So, what you are saying is that your liberal policies have failed and you want the people you hate to come and bail you out...or did I read that wrong?

      January 28, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Jake

    The biggest welfare leeches and handout taking worms are big business and the rich who get subsidies in the hundreds of billions. Big Oil alone gets 3 billion...for "finding oil", something they should simply be doing just to stay in business. Do we pay the baker a subsidy to bake bread? Does the plumber get a government subsidy to fix pipes? Why in the world do we even allow such an obsence welfare handout to corporations? And of course, these same corporations along with the rich who made their wealth here in this country then hide their money abroad and pay less taxes that the average American. Is this right that we should subsidize their taxes by paying their share of taxes because somebody is making up the difference and it's not them, it's you, me, and the average American. Talk about welfare handouts, these guys are kings and queens of welfare handouts. Yet, we only look at the poor guy on the street as the welfare cheat, never at the guys in board rooms.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay

      If we did that then gas prices would go up, and the very same people screaming for the homeless to be tarred and fathered would go bat crap crazy, demand that the government DO SOME NOW. They don't see the hypocrisy of what they get in freebies such as tax breaks for kids and tons of other stuff they write off every year as welfare.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • jaron

        dude, you pay for it in taxes or at the pump.... at least i could control it by picking a car according to gas mileage and MAKING choices to directly affect my pocket instead of blindly handing it over to those douche bags. you're a blind sheep following some rhetoric that a marketing strategist at Exxon came up with and then used your own tax money to pay fox, nbc and cnn to have "experts" explain it to you! WAKE UP GEEZER!!!!

        January 28, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Just raise the gas tax another 50 cents a gallon. That will teach them dirty oil companies.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
  17. John33

    How is that free trade deal working out that Bush Sr. & republicans designed (and Clinton caved into)? The dumbest thing the US ever did was give away manufacturing without a real fight.
    Every top-tier nation got that way from manufacturing. There is no other industry with as large a money-multiplier effect.

    January 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  18. jon

    And still the free trade agreements are in full effect. It is almost as if the country wants to collapse it's own currency.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
  19. jojo

    would 320 million bloomberg dollars help? Maybe they can all just go to john hopkins

    January 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
  20. harrisonhits2

    The people cutting the programs in Washington don't care at all about these people, whether they are poor or homeless is immaterial to the scumbags that comprise our government at the highest levels.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Derp

    How come we can pay Merck and these politicians so much money but can't help our truly needy? I pay a lot in taxes but I thought it was okay because it would go to help people...now I'm even more pissed off.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
  22. www.youtube.com/chriskanakis

    ... there's no jobs!!! but we'll spend YEARS developing a manditory healthcare plan no one can afford anyways. This article is Proof!!!!

    January 28, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • www.youtube.com/chriskanakis

      also, the "new" wave of homeless people seem to find "gigs" usually in general labor or construction or something. It's just they don't have enough to house themselves. They may ask for money aslo... but I've met a bunch that find gigs. Something I learned over the last 12 months. But the irony here is that a lot of the ones I have seen really DO.. turn right around and spend the money you give them on beer and "stuff". It's a shame and I PRAY, I am never on the street with them in their situation. Nothing is getting better out there people, it's only getting worse. If the econemy was geting better, this article would not exist. It's all propaganda.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • bam

      there are no jobs. hrmm sounds like a gop cry. and romney has a lead too....
      I like historic facts better.... 2 wars, shock and awe paid for with TAX CUTS. makes sense, drop trillions of dollars on Iraq cuz we were ENTITLED to it.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Rasheed

    If you think you're going homeless, plan ahead:
    Easy to manage without outside help if you still have your car.

    1. Get a camping stove.
    2. Grocery stores throw away a LOT of edible food, like ground beef, that goes waste. Cook nutritious food and stay warm.
    3. If you have a diesel car/van, you can run it off of vegetable oil dumped by restaurants (free gas!).
    4. Make a list of streets where you can park all day without getting ticketed. Change streets often to avoid suspicion of police and neighbors that you're living there.
    5. Spend the day in libraries searching for a job on the internet and newspapers.
    6. Make friends there. Do not hang out with folks who've been homeless for long, or live in shelters - they'll get you into doing drugs, and then you'll DIE soon.
    7. Although you'll not need much, if you'd like to raise some money, drive around on trash days near universities and pick up some surprisingly expensive things that Japanese/foreign kids moving out have thrown away. Sell these items at a nearby fleamarket (keep records of profit for tax purposes – uncle sam reads these comments!)
    8. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll raise money as a businessman/woman "working" at a fleamarket, that can let you buy a slightly better/bigger vehicle.
    9. Bathroom: YMCA? Join a fitness club like "Planet Fitness", where you can stay fit and also take baths.
    10. If you keep a positive attitude, and some luck, you might land in a job, rent a room to share in an apt. Even if not, you can rent a room if your fleamarketing goes really well!

    You'l be surprised how quickly you'll learn survival skills and become more successful than the regular homeless man who becomes a shelter parasite on drugs.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • trickbunny

      Excellent post. Now here's a guy trying to be part of the solution. No one wants to be homeless, but if you ever find yourself there, these are excellent ideas. Nice going, Rasheed.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • owleyes11

      If you are able to plan ahead, you wouldn't be homeless in the first place. I have always advocate that people should plan their lives so they can avoid all the pitfalls of life. Of course the way you raised and the environment you have may make it difficult, but plan you must.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • bam

      yeah this works out WELL in NYC.....
      thanks for applying nonsense to nonsense.... if u have anymore gems please let us know....
      hey let me add one.... if u think u r drowning, hold your breath and swim towards the surface....

      January 28, 2013 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • iheartyou

        You know, bam, Rasheed's post may not have been perfect but at least he's trying. He's not just coming on here and making useless comments... he's actually trying to offer some advice that may help people. I lived in NYC for years, and yes, many of his suggestions may not work well in the city, but many of them are absolutely doable. Thanks, Rasheed, for at least trying to be part of the solution. I've re-posted your post to my blog (with full credit – hope you don't mind – please let me know if you do and I'll remove it immediately. And sorry, CNN won't let me post my blog link – they wouldn't let the comment go through when I did – but it is a social issues site – nothing radical or offensive).

        January 28, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
        • Rasheed

          No problem, "Iheartyou", for the plagiarism – (humor!)
          You can tell folks about your blog in code – split into words here and there in a message, and CNN censors might not notice it.

          To the poster who brought up fuel costs and suggested wood, think of this: the way the world is changing so fast - 2x-black president, a jittery post-9/11 atmosphere, tsa intimate tactics, political polarization at its worst, weather patterns, arab springs, world at the brink of the third great one, you never know - survival skills might be a necessity, not something one might want to acquire optionally, and a lot of people might soon have to live outside of their homes. Thanks for the addition.

          January 28, 2013 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barbara

      Camping stoves need fuel, if you don't have money for that, you can get an old metal pot (no holes in the bottom) and some dried wood and an old rack out of an oven or something similar and make a homemade BBQ grill. Presto heat and away to cook.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aitela

      1. You probably won't be able to afford a camping stove, and if you’re spending all your time in libraries and fitness centers, someone will steal it from you, as well as anything else you have of value that's not on your person.
      2. Dumpster dive all you want, but when you get arrested, it makes defeating your homelessness and getting a job a LOT harder.
      3. You can only run a diesel vehicle off of vegetable oil if it’s converted to run that way. That requires money to buy tools, materials, and/or someone’s service.
      4. Avoiding contact with police and your neighbors will only make you seem like a scary hermit/recluse that will not be defended or protected in times of extreme hardship or aggression by others.
      5. This is the only useful tip in the entire list.
      6. Not all homeless people are crackheads and junkies. You should avoid drug addicts because they might rob you, but taking advice from someone who’s been homeless for a while could give you some well-needed advice.
      7. Trash day near universities only yields such high-end products on the move-out days that occur once a year. Again, watch out for the coppers because you can get arrested for trespassing when removing items from Dumpsters, and that will make your struggle 100 times harder.
      8. You have to have start-up money and a vehicle in order to rent flea-market space. If you have that much money, why not just rent a room and be not homeless?
      9. Paying for a gym membership to take a bath is kind of silly unless you really have no other options. You can do it for a dollar or two at a truck stop or rest stop. You can take cat baths in fast-food restaurants between showers to keep from getting too stinky.

      January 28, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • time is money

        Aitela, Try pretending to have cebral pausley , or pretending to be deaf, that works pretty good to. I know, especially at Christmas.

        January 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • time is money

      Rasheed, I did all those things you mentioned and it works . I had to sleep in my car several times as it was the only home I had . But I believe in Karma, and the good Lord was always by my side, and saved me from a demise and ruin.

      January 28, 2013 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Mongol

    Why does it cost so much to shelter a family? Big heated warehouse with 500 beds, 10 working toilets, hot cofee and bisqits in the morning, potato/cabbage soup with meat in lunch, rice porridge in the evening. With gas, water, and electric bill should not cost more than $500,000/year to run. That's is $1,000/year per person, or $5,000/year per year. Stop fleecing of America!!

    January 28, 2013 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • JohnH

      It costs less than $20/day/person to run a homeless shelter. This is just an article to justify dumping billions into a failing system.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cygnet

      I imagine that the cost of shelter staff, security, social services, increased medical needs (with the public picking up the tab) due to germs picked up or injuries acquired in the shelter, legal (dealing with neighbors unhappy with a homeless shelter), background checks on the residents (don't want a sex offender in a family shelter), drug testing, building maintenance, etc. adds to the cost.

      Plus, I can't even imagine what liability insurance would be for a homeless shelter.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • JohnH

        "I imagine that the cost of shelter staff" – Most are volunteers

        "security" – Most are staff

        "social services" – Most are volunteers

        "increased medical needs (with the public picking up the tab)" – Most are volunteers. Medications are not provided unless they are donated

        "due to germs picked up or injuries acquired in the shelter" – no more than living behind a dumpster. Most homeless shelters are clean. We get advice on germ control from doctors and nurses that volunteer to train us. Essentially treat everyone as if they are contagious.

        "legal (dealing with neighbors unhappy with a homeless shelter)" – Very few homeless shelters have neighbors. Most are in industrial districts where property values are lower and buildings are bigger.

        "background checks on the residents (don't want a sex offender in a family shelter)" – Waste of money so it is rarely done. Do you think a sex offender is going to do anything in a room full of 100 people? Do you think the "family" is safer in a homeless shelter with hundreds of other people, or out on the street?

        "drug testing" – Waste of money. Well over 75% of homeless shelter tenants are drug addicts. There is no need to do this at all. When they enter, their belongings are bagged and tagged. If they need something, they have to come and get it. This is for several reasons, but basically there is not enough room in the living quarters for 100-200 backpacks. not to mention the threat of weapons, drugs and alcohol etc. This is all banned within the facility. Also as they enter, the ones that are regulars know the procedure, showers to the right, clothes go in the blue bin, fresh clothes waiting for your exit. When newbies come in, they have to be fitted with clothes, their old clothes are washed and marked etc.

        "building maintenance" – This is usually performed by volunteers and homeless tenants

        "I can't even imagine what liability insurance would be for a homeless shelter." – Very little insurance. Many cities have exemptions for homeless shelters except in cases of gross negligence. Trust me, there are numerous people (per month) that try a slip and fall here. We have a unilateral exemption. Most tenants will sign any waiver you want them to sign.

        I suggest you volunteer at a homeless shelter so you can get a better grip on what happens at one. We are not trying to police people, we are simply trying to get them into a SAFER environment. If someone gets rowdy, we eject them. If they are drunk or high, they cannot come in. If they have money for cigarettes they have money for someplace to sleep. We are not here to feed their dependency, we re just trying to save lives.

        There is a pecking order. Tenants that volunteer get top picks on things. No money changes hands. If the shelter fills up (like now) People that have logged the fewest volunteer hours go first. Volunteering tenants get more private rooms...only 20-30 per room instead of the normal 100.

        Most importantly, many of these people are HOMELESS not HELPLESS. The tenants cook and clean and stand guard at night. Some manage the shower schedules. Someone manages the food schedules. Someone has to sort donated goods. Someone has to make sure others don't steal said good.

        We try to provide them with 2 changes of clothes, one to wear and one to wash. Tenant volunteers keep track of everything and do the washing (double washing and sanitizing)

        We do not want tenants to get too comfortable here since we operate on a shoestring budget of donations. Except for the tenant volunteers, no one has assigned beds. Sheets and blankets are washed daily (double washed and sanitized)

        January 28, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • joe

      Don't forget, you need to pay all the government workers looking after them. That's at least 1,000 per person per day.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Matt

    Right on! Personal charity is ~70% efficient. When a government bureaucracy does it is is ~30%. Also, charity is not compassionate if it is done by the government. That money has to be taken from someone else with the threat of violence. If more people understood this then maybe we wouldn't be doing so poorly as a country.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
  26. JLO1965

    New York needs to close more prisons. They whole upstate region is full of prisons with prisoners in for petty crimes. The only jobs in upstate are prisons so they put one part of the population in prison to support the other. Close more prisons and enact a good time bill to empty these prisons. That money saved can help these homeless people get into their own homes.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • bam

      too many people in jail for weed.... it is pathetic

      January 28, 2013 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Peter Q Wolfe

    I agree with No Thanks and others that welfare recipients should be sterilized for a condition of welfare assistance. I'm on welfare cause of my blindness, so right now I should get more money than a family of 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5+ people cause of being responsible to my country, environment and economics too! Lets also extend the argument to mandatory organ harvesting of the dead cause its no longer your property of waste after your death. I'd like to include the child deduction credit for that matter cause that facilitates welfare under another guise. By the way, I'm a liberal and just hate the existing inner generational welfare system.

    January 28, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Melly

      @Peter Q Wolfe, are you making the argument that you should receive more money because you're blind and that because you've chosen (or perhaps weren't attractive/intelligent/decent enough to meet someone with whom to procreate) you deserve more money than others? Because I know you would see (no pun intended) that hypocrisy in that, right? If you were truly responsible etc. as you've said, wouldn't you have somehow pulled yourself up by your bootstraps – as you and every other ignorant fool across this country who's never had a moment of true desperation, let alone a lifetime of it think is so possible – and gotten a real job where you could earn your OWN real money? Until you're not a welfare recipient, I think it wise not to comment on this mistakes, historical trauma, and intergenerational lack of opportunities bestowed upon so many of the other people receiving the exact same help as you are.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
  28. cacique

    This is a problem of the down times a capitalist regime-economy has that can only be alleviated with socialist measures. That or get used to see parks and under-passes inhabitated by the homeless. Of course, it does not matter to us, at al,l until our turn comes up. Even if we think that all those people are not our problem, in fact they are...

    January 28, 2013 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  29. The Donald

    if you just let enough of them freeze and starve eventually you will have no problem.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      LOVE IT!!!!

      January 28, 2013 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Dan

    Bloomberg & Cuomo spend most of their waking hours on gun control now... if they would re direct those efforts to the homeless, it would be much more productive. It won't happen though.... their handlers hate people anyway, even the homeless more so.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Frank

    You aint seen nothing yet! Liberals are DESTROYING this nation with their welfare and poverty.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • cacique

      What do you propose society could do to solve this big problem? You sound like you already know what NYC could do...Please elaborate.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • chris mcnally

        ya ill fix it now everybody who is homeless gets rounded up and gets a one way ticket to a more affordable location, then theyre photographed and documented so they dont come back. it is waaaaaaaaay cheaper to not live in a large city and typically way more jobs as there are less people and therefore less competition. it is a well known fact that creating housing "projects" does not work, they trash their surroundings intentionally, and the more poor people you have located in a small densely populated area the more crime,drugs and murder you get. so my big plan is simple disperse the poor homeless people for everybodys own good, obviously they cant afford to be there anyway.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paulwisc

      No, Frank, the country will survive even right-wing idiots.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lee

      So this "wave of homelessness" just now hit NYC????Funny it happened right after the election. Haha Dont think so. When the recession of the early 1980's hit the U.S. the national media broadcast repeatedly about the homeless. Why is it not saying much now? Is it because one of their own is in the whitehouse???? I'm not a Fox News person, but I think all media is biased.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
  32. RayJ

    Don't act like Jimmy McMillan didn't tell you about this 8 years ago. (www.rentistoodamnhigh.org)

    January 28, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
  33. billy bob snaketail

    This thread is populated by heartless bumscags

    January 28, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al Sanchez

      ACTUALLY, THE PROBLEM LIES WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU - BLEEDING HEARTS WHO ALWAYS FEELS SORRY FOR THEM, THUS NEVER HELPING THEM IN THE LONG RUN. YOU NEED TO STOP YOUR CRYING AND ACCUSATIONS TO OTHERS THAT "THEY," THE PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE THEM, ARE THE BAD GUYS. THE SO CALLED "BAD GUYS" ARE THE ONES THAT CAN TURN THIS AROUND BY FORCING THESE PEOPLE TO WORK AND STOP SITTING ON THEIR BUTTS ALL DAY AND CRAVE HANDOUTS TO SURVIVE. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, ENABLE THEM AND MAKE THE MATTER WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW BECAUSE OF BLEEDING HEARTS AND CRYBABIES LIKE YOU. IF YOU COULD ONLY SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WRONG - UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHY THIS IS WHERE IT'S IN THE STATE IT'S IN. . . . .

      A. SANCHEZ

      January 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • trickbunny

        Gee, what a shock. A. sanchez thinks he knows the poster, is telling them all about their life, and is doing it in big, screaming, obnoxious, capital letters. Shocker.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Virginia Doccupy Homelessness Simson

      Yes. ALL life is sacred .... and the homeless are human. Too bad people are so (spiritually) blind! Lots of the homeless are children, seniors, disabled people.

      January 28, 2013 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Mako 10

    In a country with hundreds of billionaires and millions of millionaires there shouldn't be homelessness. No woman or child nor vietnam veteran should have to spend another night in the cold with the richness of our great nation. Homelessness should only be a personal choice not an only choice. There is no reason we should let this continue while wasting billions of dollars on sending crap into space. It makes me sick.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Don't worry about waht others do – you just need to write a big check to a homeless shelter and you would actually be doing something.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • JohnH

        Amen! While liberals claim conservatives are heartless etc....conservatives give more than 3X as much to charity. the best that people can do is to stop complaining and start helping. Go to your nearest homeless shelter and donate time, money, food, medicine...anything helps. As we can see in places like New York, the government simply doesn't have a viable solution.

        Unlimited handouts does not work, nor is it feasible.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • esoll

      What does the billionaires and Millionaires have to do with this problem?

      January 28, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • JohnH

        Liberal Logic 101 – If we didn't have evil millionaires and billionaires, there would be no homeless problem.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
        • Matt

          Right on JohnH. Other people aren't poorer just because some people are rich. They think of it as one economic pie that cannot grow. Thinking like this will lead to socialism and then serfdom...

          January 28, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
        • JohnH

          I once was talking to a man who was complaining about how much the owner of his business made. I asked him "So, is YOUR pay fair?" He replied "Heck yes, I get paid extremely well, good benefits, retirement, the works...." I asked him why he cared how much money the owner made...I thought he was going to punch me.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris mcnally

      so your plan is to take everybodys money that works and give it to people who dont, who are to stupid to realize that the cost of living in a large city is on average 5x higher than small cities. GUESS WHAT THEYVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS AND GUESS WHAT THE HOMELESS ARE MULTIPLYING. ill tell you what drive on down to the nearest housing project and see where all your tax money went. they didnt build those buildings with spray paint on them and they didnt pave those roads with dope dealers standing on them, they do this on purpose to themselves. idiot

      January 28, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jake

        Duhhh.,...please explain why big oil gets 3 billion dollars from taxpayers in subsidies? Is Exxon homeless or in dire need of public assistance? If we are going to start cutting off aid to those that have the least, we should first start with those that have the most....yeah, those that hide billions offshore from paying taxes. What you don't see is that what those rich folks and corporations do in hiding money means that US taxpayers have to pay their share for them. We in essence are subsidzing those worms for keeping their money hidden overseas. If this country made you the rich man or corporation you are today, you should be keeping your money here, not in Swiss banks, the Caymans, or other countries that DID NOT make them wealthy.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  35. dinojay52

    Some people just love making derogatory and degrading comments about other people who are struggling or going through hard times. If they were without a job, needed medical treatment and needed assistance, they'd be depending on the government too. No country can treat their citizens like garbage to be thrown away just because thehy aren't model

    January 28, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thom Burke

      TEA Baggers just love to yell "personal responsibility" regardless of the logic or reason behind it. Or even the real-life application of it. I have a TEA Bagger friend who would be dead if it wasn't for help he has gotten from the government in the past. He riles against the very help that saved his life. Hypocrisy runs deep in them.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • JUST SHUT UP

        If he's such a hypocrit, why is he your friend?

        January 28, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • RIP the GOP

      Indeed, and I'm sure the majority of these clowns call themselves "Christian" as well.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      There are 12 million illegal aliens in this county – porbably at least 500,00 in N.Y. city and they manage to find a job, make a living and are not homeless. Since it is always claimed the illegals take jobs no one else wants – well maybe time for the homeless to start taking those jobs.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • kendalljackman

        To Ed, Some of us who are homeless and deal with the housing issues in this city know, if your name is not on the lease, you are homeless. You can live doubled and tripled up and be housed, but let your name not be on the lease and the landlord has no obligation to you because he does not have a contract with you. The rents in this city have out priced even city workers. I know two women, one is a Social Worker Supervisor at ACS and the other is a HASA Case Worker. Both have worked all their adult lives mostly for the city and they can't afford to live in the city they work for. Home Health Aides, Security Guards, Retail Workers, Restaurant Workers all work and can't afford housing. And let's talk about the elders who are on fixed incomes; pensions, social security, disability, who are living in shelters because there is no affordable senior housing. The people warehoused in nursing homes because there is no affordable assisted living housing. The problem is not lazy people who don't want to work, the problem is a mayor who is determined to turn New York City into a private gated community for him and his friends. He said at the beginning of his first term, he was going to make this the international diamond city and we were welcome to work here, but we couldn't live here. He's lived up to that promise, unlike his promise to eradicate homelessness. Instead, he has more than doubled the population and like you want to blamed the people he has screwed instead of helping by building truly affordable housing. If you or anyone else reading this is interested in what homeless people are doing to change the misguided actions of the administration go to our website http://www.picturethehomeless.org.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
        • Out

          I understand your plight Kendel, however time to get the hell out of NYC- laws of supply and demand are laws of nature, if NYC is too expensive that's because too many people – that want to live there are willing to pay that much- its called free market. I think it's time to get out of NYC – we live in a great country with endless opportunity- your fortune is waiting – go get it- make your children proud of show them what it means to be an american – be a winner – refuse to lose. You can do it

          January 28, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
        • ...

          guess he thought they'd leave, or die, or move in with family if he didn't help them long enough.
          when do the gates come up?
          i've always wondered if some of those so called gated communities weren't built with gates to keep the residents in – not the non-residents out.

          January 28, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • billy bob snaketail

      Amerika is a country without a soul.
      Read the posts.
      These right wing bung holes have no problem believing in the Todd Akins of the world, but won't take care of the homeless veterans that line our streets.
      SHAME.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scott

        I don't see a lot of homeless veterans I see a lot of black crack heads for your information

        January 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Very good you have such concern and charity. Now I suggest you keep as much of your money just to get by and donate the rest to a homeless shelter. That way you will feel good about yourself, actually give away your own money and finally be a peraon of charity – not the government. Many of you are very commited to give away other people's money but wouldn't part with a dime yourself. Charity should be given by individuals not forced in taxes by the government.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Demmy Ocrat

      If the people do not have an ample opportunity to make a living wage, it makes it all of the more frustrating. It is horrible what the Obama administration is doing. The administrations both in NY and Washington push through a gun bill but leaves thousands homeless. Did they take away the guns because they knew they were going to make people homeless and frustrated? This is soo sad.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Jack

    This is a prime example of a city assuming obligations it can't afford. When NYC is serious about saving money, they'll cut off rent subsidies and turn over its shelters to private organizations.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Old Shoe

      NYC is one of the most expensive cities to live. Of course, when people lose jobs, it is almost impossible to rent without assistance. One alternative is relocation. There are cities where business are hiring even in this dismal economy. But, sadly, Christian is correct, the corrections and changes this president is making won't affect homeless and displaced people. The people still with jobs need to be concerned whether they will retain their jobs or lose them to outsourcing. Think of this: GM built 8 new assembly plants and 5 or 6 engine and drive line plants with their bail out money. Where were they built? CHINA. Any guesses where our next Chevy or Buick is going to come from?

      January 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • ceebee

        7 out of 10 cars GM builds are sold in other countries, China being by far the largest market. China is the largest market for new cars on the planet, and GM is just building them where they are selling them. That is profit going to GM corporate USA.

        January 28, 2013 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      it is their right to have guns so give them all guns purchased by the gover. it their right to abortions so give them all abortions paid by the gover. give them all 64oz drinks let them all live in free housing I can see it now they will be fighting to get a spot in the free housing and they can shoot each other and drink themselves to death I will just be one big happy housing project

      January 28, 2013 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  37. SoCal Reggae

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cyPxw-wG20&w=640&h=390]

    January 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
  38. ralph Petrillo

    NYC has a one percent vacancy rate. Rents are going higher. Foreign purchases of real estate send price sup higher and higher. An Apartment just sold for 95 million on 57th Street. Large one bedroom condominiums sell for one million. It is a joke.
    NYC is run by a very organized real estate industry. they literally control the Mayor's office.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vikingirishqoman

      No truer words were ever spoken, Ralph. Bloomberg's favorite phrase? "Show me the money!"

      January 28, 2013 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Pal, can you spare a dime?

    This just in – New York City give all homeless people 44 Ounce Sodas for free!

    January 28, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Pal, can you spare a dime?

    Obama's economic handicraft now starting to rear its ugly head! And you've got 4 more glorious years..

    January 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vikingirishqoman

      You are joking, right? You must be joking. Who ruined the city's income in 2008? Wall Street. Tax bases across the country, and indeed around the world, are throwing governments into panic, they are trying every which way to attract money to keep the city running. To make room for this money they evict the poor. For God's sake read a little history and stop spouting non-sense. Greed (which is stamped across conservative's foreheads in day glow colors) killed the Golden Goose, not the people mopping the floors.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
  41. stylemetropolis

    WHY is it that every time media outlets do a story on public aid, the visual used is usually a minority? It is a well- documented fact that the majority of people on public aid are white females, not Hispanic and African-American families. I expected more well-rounded coverage from you CNN. Do better.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Simian Pavementape

      You &*^% idiot. Whites are the majority of the population. As a percentage, blacks are most of the welfare recipients.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • skpfrmdc

        WRONG! Check your data.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      In reality blacks make up about the same percentage of the welfare population as whites do. This means that the myth that blacks make up most of the welfare population is not entirely truth. The small amount of truth is that, as a percentage of the population they are weighted more heavily on the statistics. This means that while the percentage is the same, their population within the country is smaller then whites. The difference in population means that there are more blacks on welfare as a percentage of their actual population then there are of whites.

      In summary any given black person is more "likely" to be on welfare than a white person.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Sapere Aude

    This just in, Right Wing freaks are apparently monitoring and commenting on CNN stories, as such fine humanistic comments such as "open hunting season on homeless and feed the meat to the zoos", "send them to Cali where all the Socialists are", "the majority don't want to work", ...etc., etc., etc.
    I have a better idea. Let's let all the Flat-earth society, anti-science, anti-government, gun-totin bible-banging hillbillies secede from the US and that way, when tornados wipe out their trailer parks, hurricanes destroy their southern towns, or God sends a plaque of locusts, they can stop crying for FEMA aid and can sit back with their 24-pack of Bud and enjoy all that "freedom" has to offer as they wait for the Apocalypse.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pal, can you spare a dime?

      Why don't you just go to Moscow?

      January 28, 2013 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sapere Aude

        Hate to clue you in genious, Moscow would be considered "Communist" while the US has been a blend of Socialist and Capitalist approaches to society since the late 19th century. Don't like socialism? Then don't ever call the police, put your own house fire out and don't call the Fire Department, don't drive on any roads because those are put there by the big bad governement. Have a heart attack? Don't call the EMTs, drive yourself to the hospital, but only if you have insurance, because God forbid the most powerful nation on earth provide health care to it's citizen base...that would be evil socialism. #fkngmorons

        January 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
        • RayJ

          Russia is not communist anymore, quit living in the cold war

          January 28, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
        • RIP the GOP

          RayJ...they have these things called "books"..you should really try them out. Lots of good information in them. The Communist Party of the Soviet Union was succeeded in 1991 by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the communist parties of the now-independent former Soviet republics. It's still primarily a communist-ruled nation.

          January 28, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
        • Ekaterina Kaverina

          Um, Communism by definition is a system where money does not exist. The economy is supposed to be so efficient that everybody's needs are provided for without a need for finances. This system is impossible and has never been created. The true heirs of the CPSU are actually Russia United – Putin's party. They run a very corrupt dictatorship, never mind what anybody calls it. It has no elections to speak of and no freedom of speech at all. So why are we discussing it here again?

          January 28, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
        • Ekaterina Kaverina

          And Socialism by definition is state ownership of industry and land. Now this has been tried. Somehow in practice it always leads to abolishing elections and freedom of speech, you explain why, and in the end results in a bloody terror and collapse. Once again, it is unclear to me why it is invoked here.

          January 28, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • finametrics

        its true, you're a moron.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
        • RIP Sarah Palin

          "It's"

          January 28, 2013 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Out

      Oh dear – lol. With that ind of logic, you could get a cabinet ost in the Obama administration.

      January 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Christie

    Solution-don't allow illegals into the vocher program.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • billy bob snaketail

      Whats a vocher?

      January 28, 2013 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Demmy Ocrat

    Looks like voting for Obama helped aout a lot of these homeless people. I guess they expected free hand outs. Unemployment is a serious problem and the current administration is a cruel joke. The money that was wasted to Solyndra could have been spent creating real jobs. The list of errors is too long for Obama, who can he blame now.

    January 28, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • TimmyJ

      Obama is the greatest, Obama should be worshiped and if you oppose him you'll be hit with "black" the way Lance hit wth "cancer" – Impeach this loser now

      January 28, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      And the bush wars could have paid for all the housing in N.Y.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • yea right

        Yea, and if the tax-payers didn't have to support the kind of people in the picture, we'd have been to Mars by now!

        January 28, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
        • RIP Sarah Palin

          Newsflash...we ARE on Mars now idiot!

          January 28, 2013 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zane

      Well of course he can still blame Bush. Thats worked for over four years. He can blame Boehner and the repubs, oops he already has.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vikingirishqoman

      No list of "f*ckups" is longer than George W's and his band of merry pranksters.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Demmy Ocrat

        There has been a new Sherrif in town for 4 years now the homeless and unemployment rates are at records today not 4 years ago. This is your boy making this mess and it will only get worse.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      You dodo. Since when is the federal gov't much less the POTUS responsible for state run programs. If you live in NY then you know this situation has existed for some time, throughout several administrations, both Dem and Repub or it would have been solved by now. The real problem is people who think they KNOW something when they know very little to nothing. I bet your tune would be different if it was you or yours.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • RIP Sarah Palin

        Indeed. Wow, someone does have a brain in this forum! LOL

        January 28, 2013 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ekaterina Kaverina

      Demmy Ocrat, you are a troll

      January 28, 2013 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Holly

    IF citizens were not forced to give their jobs and money to non-citizens this problem would not exist.

    American's can take action to stop some of the crime and invasion:
    Join Numbers USA. They are for ENFORCING our immigration laws, lowering the work visas, anchor babies, mandatory use of e-verify, etc. They rate each candidate on immigration issues and they have free faxes that you can send to the White House, your Congress & Representatives. It’s easy & free, please join!!!
    Check out Numbers USA.
    Feel free to repost

    January 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  46. palintwit

    Four more years of Obama and we'll all be homeless.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Bill

    Ashamed to be an American. Everyone in Congress should be ashamed of themselves for allowing our country to become a third world country.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • christina

      move

      January 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • JohnH

      Clearly, you have never been to a third world country. Our poor are considered rich in third world countries.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Abe Pacana

        bwahahaha true to some extent.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
        • JohnH

          Yep...places I have been...they would see the clothes those people in the picture are wearing and they would think they were kings and queens.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Scott

    Enlist in the military and your homeless problem is solved!

    January 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sapere Aude

      It's homeless "families"...not "men." Unless the military now allows single mothers with their underage kids and the elderly to join, doesn't really help.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sillyvanilly

        Doesn't matter as Obama is cutting the armed forces drastically. Most wouldn't qualify to stay even if they were already enlisted.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Out

        Actually woman are now allowed in the military so yes! they can- it is actually a viable option.

        January 28, 2013 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Eric Cartman

    "California is nice to the homeless, Californ-ya-ya, super cool to the homeless. In the city, city of Santa Monica, lots of rich people, giving change to the homeless."

    January 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  50. jake

    Buy 'em a one way bus ticket to Sunny California. More people are leaving CA than moving there. They'd love a new batch of poor folk to give money to, just as long as they keep votin' Democratic. There's no reason to live in NYC if you're poor. It's expensive and cold. Move to California where the socialists run everything.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • mylife55

      Keep drinking that kool-aid, sucker.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zane

      You're exactly right.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Out

      I agree in principle with Jake, these people have been conditioned to believe they are not capable- they need the government.Its amazing what we as humans can do – when we have to. When depression despair helplessness creeps into your mind, that's what paralyzes you. I see those people above, I see a healthy young family with the world at theyre fingers- this is america your free – adjust adapt thrive overcome! Leave government assistance for the elderly and handicaped those that really need it.

      January 28, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
  51. leo

    i am willing to bet that the majority of these homelss choose to NOT work when then can, they would rather get a handout. Now those homeless that are truely mentally ill should be treated. I have no sympathy for the bulk of the homeless that simply are too lazy to work.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Melody

      You've been watching too much FOX news

      January 28, 2013 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cajun

      Yes, I'm sure most of them just LOVE living under the bridge in the middle of a NE winter....

      January 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cdiddy

      Over half of all homeless people are mentally ill – most suffering from schizophrenia. Among structural (rather than temporary) homeless, this percentage is much higher. When you can't afford anti-psychotic medication, and you constantly hear imaginary voices telling you to do things, it's pretty hard to flip burgers. But if it makes you feel better to spit on the poor because you think they are lazy, go for it. If there is any judgment in the universe, your punishment will come eventually.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sapere Aude

      LOL, all those homeless taking handouts and enjoying all the riches life has to offer on our money...sleeping on a piece of cardboard in the winter,looking for clothes and food in dumpsters, now that is the life, all on our dime.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vikingirishqoman

      Leo if you did your own personal survey of the millions of homeless to determine this, than I respect your comment. Otherwise you are so ill-informed and resentful you should be ashamed of yourself.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      ....and YOU KNOW the story of each and everyone. If you go to church you should listen instead of sleep.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  52. tron777

    Put them in a tent city and make them work for a living. They would not have to beg and they would have a sense of worth after a days work.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Bastado

    Wow, Mr. Article-writing hack, maybe you should check your facts. Like the fact that if I make 6 figures and wouldn't dream of living in NYC on my salary, why the hell should my taxes pay for subsidies so a homeless family can?

    This just in: Homeless bum's dream is crushed when he finds out his subsidy for living about the International Space Station will no longer be renewed. OMG, it would be soo much cheaper to just keep paying the subsidy because now he will have to be jailed on Mars, which we all know is even more esspensive!

    January 28, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Kevin Barbieux

    So for the past 50 years we have been making cuts to education and mental health services – and now we are surprised that our streets are full of people who are either too crazy or too ignorant to find work? Please, America brought this on ourselves.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zane

      How about,for the most part, just too lazy to work. Too many people think the government is supposed to "subsidize" their living (rent, food, insurance, cell phone, heat).

      January 28, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  55. 45h44hh

    NYC is expensive, Mexico is warm

    January 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • billy

      [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cyPxw-wG20&w=640&h=390]

      January 28, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Ian

    Democrats are just heartless and stupid

    January 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Melody

      You mean right wing Republican...The American Taliban of the USA

      January 28, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • ezlife4me

        No Melody, he means Democrats who have turned the nation into a gigantic Indian reservation in th epast 50 years..

        January 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
        • Matt

          True. If you think that the U.S. government can do a good job taking care of people just look at the American Indian. Down with the nanny state!!!

          January 28, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Idunno

    They should have revamped the old stadium and turned it into low rent / free housing for the homeless.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
  58. SmokinJoe1x

    I think it should be optional to support losers not manditory as it is in America. I have no problem with short term Welfare but not this life time crap we ended up with! The guy in this picture could probably could get a job, but since he would have to pay child support for his other 6 kids he would work! That's my first opinion and my first opnion is right 99% of the time. Why don't you Liberals pool togther and pay for these people since thats what you stand for!

    January 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      Love to see you on your deathbed. Will you be smiling?

      January 28, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • LungCancer

      You know, not everyone has had an easy a life as you have. Some people are cursed with bad happenings over and over. It's not for lack of trying, in many cases.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • PRA

      Your obvious lack of intelligence really shines through when you equate liberalism with happily giving handouts to able-bodied people. NOBODY wants their tax dollars going to support people who can and should be working, but both Republicans and Democrats alike have helped create the current non-working system and it needs a massive overhaul. Pull your head out, stop blaming the other political party and try being a part of the solution instead of leaving worthless comments on websites.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vikingirishqoman

      You comment as if you think there are millions of jobs with no one willing to do them. This is simply incorrect. We have millions of people and no jobs for them. If we don't support them, they will behave as desperate people behave, taking what they need to survive wherever they can. You really don't know what you are talking about.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Monty

    Nobody seems to notice the absurd numbers that were quoted. It costs $36,000 a year to house a homeless family in New York. That is $3,000 a month. That same amount will buy a 4,000 square foot house in many parts of the country. It is the cost of living that is driving them to need assistance not the amount they are getting from the government. They need to leave a get a job in an area that is more affordable.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • keimia

      What job? Everyone is hurting! Even in a place like North Dakota where there are jobs in the oil industry housing is hard to come by and super expensive. This lack of empathy we have for other Americans will be our downfall if we let it continue.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  60. mdc

    Who is John Galt?

    January 28, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • PRA

      Wow, how original: quoting a poorly written book about a naive, unworkable philosophy that is now so dated it has little-to-no relevance today. My guess is you're not an impossibly moral and ethical industry leader (hence your posting on CNN.com), which according to Rand makes you a member of the 99%. Congrats – you're the guy in the picture!

      January 28, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Lcg

    I stopped giving money to the homeless the day I went to put a few dollars in his little homless cup and his cell phone rang .

    January 28, 2013 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • czarsun

      Homelessness has always been a big problem in New York. People forgot because the homeless seemed to disappear during the RUDY G. regime. That's because his hit squads were murdering them at night. The city morgue kept it hush-hush, but the smart people knew. RUDY was no magician, but he sure knew how to poison food.

      Bloomberg is not that cold hearted. That's why it is very noticeable again. I know what I'm talking about....Laurelton, Queens 1968-1996.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • leo

        hey, i was on that hit squad, but we missed you.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wilder

      Holy S... you just totally shocked me. I didnt know whether to gasp for air or laugh. Sad but true. They make a fortune begging for money.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      Consider this, I have a cousin that's homeless, he wouldn't come stay with me but he let me buy him a cheap celly so he could call his mom and let her know he wasn't dead which is where I suppose you'd like to see him. Do unto others and what goes around comes around.

      January 28, 2013 at 6:07 pm | Report abuse |
  62. DH

    Thats fine. Just don't provide as many homeless shelters ans people will move elsewhere. Rent is crazy here and we shouldn't be providing subsidies to people.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Btt

    how about trying as hard to get a job for those under government assistance? Put simply, government assistance=job placement assistance.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lren2365

      So many people are working full-time and still cannot afford housing. They try to maintain one method of communication for work (a cell phone) to keep a job, a know about shifts available for work. Just because a homeless person has a cellphone does not mean they have money to support themselves. Communication is necessary to seek work or to keep work. Work barely pays enough to many employees to live on.

      January 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  64. barbarianofgor

    Essentially they forgot why America turned "Progressive" and "Liberal" for a long while. Sadly it wasn't a bunch of hippies and protests.

    1. Welfare is cheaper than Jail.
    2. Even if "Welfare bums live off of others" them having a living and even spending money helps the economy more than it hurts it.

    These right wingers are WRONG, plain and simple. They just can't ever admit it and don't care. I'd personally rather NYC when Times Square was an "Adult" Babylon versus the Disney arcology it is now. Somehow a little less slimy and disturbing.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Bukoo

    Everybody's talking at me,
    I don't hear a word they're saying,
    only the echoes of my mind.
    people stopping and staring
    I can't see their faces
    only the shadows of their eyes
    I'm going where the sun keeps shining
    thru the pouring rain
    going where the weather suits my clothes
    backing off those North East wind
    sailing on summer breeze and
    skipping over the ocean like a stone.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • billy bob snaketail

      Dionne

      January 28, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • skpfrmdc

        Glen Campbell......and he looks homeless as hell if he isn't dead from the booze yet.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  66. mike Lake Orion Michigan

    This is what happens when your use to relying on the Government. Thanks Obama!

    January 28, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • newsurveyresults

      you are really just one lost individual. just sitting in the house with all that hate coming out of your miond.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Nina

    I'm trying to understand how Mayor Bloomberg can fuss and bother over a 20 oz. soda, but there are hungry and homeless all around the city. It seems the priorities are way off.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      your comments make no sense. are we not allowed to pass any laws at all unless there are no homeless people in our cities?

      January 28, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • fuzzypook

        Passing those stupid laws take the time and effort of lawmakers that could be spent doing something useful. As if a NY politician could do anything useful. Never mind.

        January 28, 2013 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Joe

    NYC should buy some land in the midwest- send them there and they could all start farms to feed NYC.

    January 28, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • keimia

      It is incredibly hard to start a farm. Farmers receive subsidies from the government too!

      January 28, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  69. giggity

    send them all to vermont where every lazy @ss can go on welfare

    January 28, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      Lazy @sses live and work in cities.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
  70. cd

    Maybe if the MAYOR did NOT have 5 armed GUARDS @ his side to protect his ever move while wasting TAX PAYERS money running his mouth ,these poor people could have a warm meal. What a SHAME the MAYOR will un-ARM these poor people with NO-FOOD while he dines with ONLY THE BEST. god is watching MR MAYOR!

    January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Virginia Doccupy Homelessness Simson

      The Number One problem in NYC is Housing, the number two problem in NYC is housing .. and so on and on. There is a POLICY problem which cannot be solved until the homelessness problem is SOLVED. The Mayor REFUSES to discuss solutions, such as filling up the empty spaces. See picturethehomeless.org website for SOLUTIONS. It does not pay to stereotype homeless people.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Bloomberg is a billionaire. He pays more in local, city, and state taxes in one year than most people earn in a lifetime. NYC defintely profits from his residency.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • 1gadawg

        i'll be if you do an open records request you'll find he pays a lower rate of taxes than you do, but oh wait, on rich repubs do that... yeah, right....

        January 28, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Mateo

    You must have been listening to Fox News or something. The Republican party has done more in the last 30 years to erode the American middle class more than anyone one individual. We're quickly turning into a Third World country of haves and have nots turning Americans against one another and to h*ll with the country for a quick profit that will cost us all in the end. What shame.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Howie76

      U got that right!

      January 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bushy Brown

      Ironically, the last 4 years haven't been really prospering under a Democrat president. Perhaps you can attribute it to a party of no GOP in the house. But you can't deny that under Clinton's adminisrations [prior to oust of Gingrich] between the mid of the first administration (Jan 1995) to the mid of the second administration (Jan 1999), the country flourished with a strong GOP takeover. Pres. Clinton went with GOP's economic plan to reduce income and corporate tax, as well as a plethora of other taxes. Ironically, the economy boomed. When GOP were ousted with the Dem takeover in the House, Clinton's second half of his second administration hiked all the taxes. It is on the record that economists labeled the last two years of Clinton's presidency as a recession.

      Now, we can't honestly say that the GOP are simply out to take the country into third world status, can we?

      January 28, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Matt

    How could people be out of work for 3 plus years and get a free handouts the whole time, then when the govt takes away there free handouts bitch and cry about losing there homes when they havent done shit in the past 3 years... And having more kids when you cant afford the two they already have

    January 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      did it ever occur to you that they were looking for work in those 3 years and couldn't find it, rather than spending all day doing drugs?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Howie76

      Most people getting housing help do work they just do not make a living wage to be able to afford rent. The only ones that do not are the elderly. But you would have no problem with a 80 year old serving you.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      I've been unemployed for three years and it sucks. I have two degrees and many years of experience. It has nothing to do with people being lazy and relying on the government. I've been looking constantly for a job and may have had 6 interviews. Don't be so quick to judge. There is nothing wrong with relying on the government when times are tough; everyone pays into it through taxes.That is what it is there for. For those who need it. Wait until you need help one day and the help runs out......I bet you will bitch as well.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Booseyboo

        No jobs available for three years? Or is, no jobs available that you want. That is a huge difference and one of the biggest reasons we are going broke in this country. You keep asking what your country can do for you.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
        • keimia

          Some places won't hire you because you are overqualified. If you're an older worker you'll be discriminated against too. If you don't have a lot of experience in the field, you'll struggle. Stop being heartless. It won't save you if you are in the same situation as well.

          January 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • sanityguest

        don't bother explaining, no one is listening. i work in NYC and I can tell you that minimum wage jobs don't pay the rent, and there are few jobs available. I have paid more in unemployment insurance and NYS taxes than many people will ever earn. I don't mind helping people and I am glad to know that help will be there if i ever need it.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • ezlife4me

        Chris, move to Dickinson ND and drive a truck between drilling platforms.......earn $60,000/year. Clean air and good fishing nearby. The old rule still applies........."you have to go where the work is"

        January 28, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bushy Brown

        Hi Chris. Sorry to hear about 3 years of unemployment. Going through all that isn't something to laugh at. But 6 interviews? That's quite a paltry number, even if it isn't necessarily an indicator on the effort on your behalf. I'll assume that you tried in good faith. But times are different. You'll have to be willing to go where there's work. I moved from Indiana, to Pennsylvania, and then to Oklahoma (of all places) just for a job. But at times, having a degree is simply having a piece of paper. I have friends who did English, psychology, and other liberal arts. Now they're flipping burgers, or working at Wal-Mart. It isn't anywhere near their dream job, but it's a start. They weren't ashamed to do what they need to do to put a few loaves of bread on the table.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • SmokinJoe1x

      There is a serious irresponsibility problem in this country! Look at the picture. The little boy in the fathers hands is less than 3 years old. We have created a culture that the rest of the country will pay for you and your kids. These peoples kids will say "Why work? I can get my money for free!" and we will pay for them next generation too. The people that shouldn't be having children are having children. Responsible people with jobs don't have kids just so they can collect more welfare and suck our counrty dry like you liberal pieces of crap!
      Be like me! My parents didn't pay for nothing and I got nothing from the government. I went back to school and paid for it out of my own pocket. Now I have a life, I now have kids since I personnally can afford them.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      @Matt – I didn't say in the story that they have been out of work for 3 years. I said they had been getting the rent subsidy for 3 years. They are currently both unemployed. Actually, 1/4 of the families who were receiving this rent subsidy were what you would call the working poor, i.e.: one or both of the parents had minimum wage jobs. Unfortunately, minimum wage is not a living wage in New York City when you look at the cost of housing here even in the cheapest of neighborhoods, especially if you have children. But that's a topic for another story.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Bill

    Nice stat, but it is extremely unlikely a family would spend a year in a shelter. Also, how many new homeless out there are compared to the money saved on vouchers. I guarantee you the majority of those on the vouchers found a place on their own, and did not end up homeless. Long term homeless are either drug addicts or unfortunately the mentally ill. Mentally ill need help vouchers cannot give them, and drug addicts lives will improve only if they accept the help they are offered. Very misleading stat and story.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Howie76

      and where exactly did you get your information from??? You have no clue what you are spewing off about.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  74. No thanks.,

    Let's think long term solutions, here. It is time for this country to become accepting of reproductive sterilization as a punitive measure or as a incentive for other benefits. Time to end the reign of poverty and over-population.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • I Agree

      I agree with you on that. Once a family goes on welfare, or a single person, they should voluntarily have tubes tied/vasectomy until they no longer receive aid, then it can be reversed... They can't keep reproducing, that's taking total advantage.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • sanityguest

      long term solutions? how about education and job training for real jobs? how about safe day care that will watch the children of the working poor so they can move up the ladder? how about decriminalizing drugs and providing enough treatment centers for those who are ready to get off the drugs? how about enough facilities to care for the mentally ill? how about more low and middle income housing for people? there are plenty of long term solutions that don't destroy people's lives and dignity. But why would you want any of those? it is so much easier to stereotype, hate, and blame the poor for their condition.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • ezlife4me

        You have a long list of extremely expensive programs and the last time I checked, the nation is borrowing over 25% of what it spends. We already provide 12 years of free education and yet, in the inner cities, the dropout rate is around 50%. The education system has failed and it's time to return to private schools. Once parents start paying tuition, things will change real fast.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
        • sanityguest

          the cost of one week in Afghanistan could fund all of these programs, probably with money left over. and the investment in our people would reduce money spent on prisons, criminal justice, law enforcement, emergency room medical care costs, housing people in homeless shelters,etc. why do we always have money for war, but none for "we the people"?

          January 30, 2013 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  75. merlin215

    This is absolutely disgusting in today's age as everyone worries about immigration and guns and politics . Forget about taking care of them as New York City only wants MiIllionares .. ATTA BOY Bloomberg and Cuomo . 2 REAL politicians don;'t care for them as they don't vote !!! I thought Liberatarians took care of the homeless ? Wrong on that one !!! I work weekends giving free food to folks that need it thru our church and you would think that one of the largest cities in the world would allow this to happen ?

    January 28, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      "I thought Liberatarians took care of the homeless"

      no, you're thinking of "compassionate conservatives", libertarians are the ones who would be happy to see all undesirables die on the streets if it'd help The Free Market.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        Libertarians would free them. Let them know they don't have to stay is such a cold dirty city when there is a wide world out there. Libertarians would give them a job website url. since the free market is shared Libertarians will participate in the my market – infringing on no one else's rights.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          yes, send all these drug addicts, alcoholics, and severely mentally ill people a link to monster dot com! that will fix EVERYTHING!

          January 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnh

      No modern politician cares about these things...no democrats, no republicans, no libertarians. It provides an excellent distraction from their unfathomable incompetence. All politicians are doing is creating the next arguments for the 2016 presidential debates.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Rasheed

    Government aid should be very:
    1. LIMITED,
    2. TEMPORARY,
    3. GIVEN TO ONLY DESTITUTES.
    I twice lost jobs, well-paying, but CHOSE to keep looking for work until I got it, instead of getting unemployment. "Ask not what the country can do for you, ask ...", especially when others have to work hard to pay for your comfort.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Bob

      So do you hire someone to pat you on the back now, or do you manage well enough on your own?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rasheed

        I don't need to - you just did (the part of your message that you didn't type!). I forgot to write in my message that I'm not even a Republican. Or a Republicrat. As long as there's a will, there's a way!

        January 28, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dutch

        Jim Bob,
        Please hand over your AR-15 to the authorities.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Triple A

        Hey Jim Bobby, judging from all your posts on this thread you really brought some depth into the subject matter.... I think you just proved a major issue infesting America.

        Jim Bob
        So do you hire someone to pat you on the back now, or do you manage well enough on your own?
        Jim Bob
        That probably sounded more clever in your head. How embarrassing for you.
        Jim Bob
        How embarrassing for you.
        Jim Bob
        That's a profoundly stupid comment.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      congratulations on being physically and mentally fit enough to look for a job ASAP, and having enough connections, education, and experience to get another job!!! we're all very happy for you!!!

      ...unfortunately, most homeless people cannot say the same to any of the above.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        come on if women can do it anyone can...

        January 28, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • anne112

      Aren't you wonderful? Unfortunately a lot of the homeless are seriously mentally ill and so can't provide for themselves. But still, it must be nice to be you.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      What if you didn't find a job? I am sure you would have your hand out real quick when you couldn't feed your family or clothe them. You would rely on the government's help just like everyone else does. You say you wouldn't, but I am pretty sure you would. It's easy to say what you say when you have a job and food and shelter. When times are tough, you do whatever you have to do to survive, including taking government help.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      Did you have a significant amount of savings that enabled you to keep paying your bills and maintain a roof over your head while you were looking for work?

      January 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rasheed

        I totally hear you all who say that I must have had savings or the skills/means to find a job. I did have savings, but I also did plan ahead and scheme on how I'd live in my car if the need arose, and made lists and maps of streets where I could park all day and not be ticketed. I believe that as soon as we give up hope in ourselves, we continue going down the slippery slope that addicts us to comfort and sloth. And BTW. I wasn't even in the military, which trains you for any such eventuality. So others can, too.

        January 28, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
  77. ARGurl

    It seems to me that the politicians of NYC should be more concerned about their citizens and taking care of them than posting gun laws.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Bob

      That's a profoundly stupid comment.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  78. J

    Very simple – have all the homeless go to Penn Station and take a Federally subsidized train for free to Florida where it's warm.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Why would Florida want them? They need jobs. Put them to work cleaning up the City, and pay them with the campaign war chest of the Democratic politicians who accept huge legal bribes from foreign countries and multi-national companies.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • George Washington

        Like Mitt Romney did? Should the launder it through the Cayman Islands too?

        January 28, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • No thanks.,

      No thanks. We don't want them, and will kick them out.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • coyote

      rampant fla crime would shock them into idaho

      January 28, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Fubarack

    A more interesting topic is the changing demographics of the homeless. Many now were former middle class people who got caught up in Obama's attack on the middle class. Just today another story about bankers getting huge bonuses. Obama is sending jobs overseas, while attacking what few jobs remain here. And he and his crony buddies are getting richer.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      obama does not control what bankers get bonuses and outsourcing (also not controlled by obama) is decreasing. also, there are no statistics to suggest that there's a huge influx of middle class people into homelessness.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • snoocks2

        And why are we mulling around fixing the illegal immigration problem? Won't we just adding to the numbers of already destitute people looking for work and shelter. Also, why is the Obama administration selling the A123 battery company (which we funded with millions of OUR dollars before it went belly-up) being sold to the Chinese? If that's not purposefully sending jobs overseas – then what is? You must be a kool-aid drinker.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          the president does not "sell" private companies.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
        • snoocks2

          His administration arranges it – do your homework.

          January 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          hah! homework from fox news?! give me a break, bro. companies that go bankrupt are auctioned off. the highest bidder gets it. the government does not pick and choose who to "sell" the company to.

          January 28, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kuron

      Yeah, like the Republicans who are funded by the wealthy and are demanding entitlement cuts really care more about the middle class than Obama? Keep drinking the Koolaid!

      January 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • snoocks2

        You ever look up the balance sheets of Sen. Schumer, Kerry and the rest of their ilk? They are all Democratic millionaires who got their millions from the taxpayers pockets. Do your homework before you sound off. Kerry alone is worth 10-times what Romney is worth. But then, Romney gives away more than 20% of his yearly income to charity – Kerry? Not so much. But Joe Biden did give about $300 last year – that's something and it's easy to prove.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          romney's "charity" money goes to the mormon church, which he is required to do (as a mormon). and unlike romney, john kerry supports increasing taxes on people like (and including) himself.

          January 28, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Bob

      How embarrassing for you.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mateo

      You must have been listening to Fox News or something. The Republican party has done more in the last 30 years to erode the American middle class more than anyone one individual. We're quickly turning into a Third World country of haves and have nots turning Americans against one another and to h*ll with the country for a quick profit that will cost us all in the end. What shame.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Dug

    Reading articles like this one should cause us to consider how it is possible for our altruism to cause harm. And if this is possible so the the converse, refusing help to otherwise intellegent and able bodied individuals can benefit them in the long run. If we alow the good feelings we get from our generosity to blind us to the potential harm we are inflicting, are we not then acting for our own selfish emotional benefit?

    January 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yesfan

      Giving blindly to Corporations and Banks, with Government cooperation is altruism.
      Helping your fellow man because you'd want them to do the same for you, is rational compassion.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      B y that argument there shouldn't be government subsidies for anyone or any entity, not just the homeless or working poor. is that what you're saying? No subsidies for corporate farming and food production industry, no subsidies for manufacturers willing to keep jobs in the US, no subsidies for the construction of needed infrastructure? Is that your message?

      January 28, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Jeff

    NYC is just too expensive to live if you are un-educated, non skillful in any trade. Why would someone kills themselves to work so hard to achieve so little. Trying getting out of NYC and find a place cheaper to live.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  82. palintwit

    More Obama voters looking for a hand-out.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • DemFromSC

      Your name says it all....

      January 28, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mark

        look, I found the pot calling the kettle black!!

        January 28, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gabriel

      It's alarming how many men, (woman too) create a family and then abandon them, leaving the Mom (or the Dad) the full burden of working, providing & caring for the children, held accountable for everything that goes wrong, and given zero credit for anything that goes right, AND for doing it all "alone". And Dad (or Mom) just gets to fly free. These people don't want a handout, believe me. The absent parent needs to be 100% accountable.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        if a woman can do it without child support how hard can it be???? and if a diametrically opposed human female without child support can do it without a degree and no government help (which is not help and this is the old conversation again – I know) than everyone should do it.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • palintwit

      The palintwit imposter is back at 3:32 pm. Only a d-back would use someone else's screen name. Isn't that right you little turd...

      January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Robert

    Only in NY you can create and pass a gun ban style law that is supposed to protect the children, yet can't make a budget to keep them housed and protected. Do anyone else find this sickening???

    January 28, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      how are those 2 things even related? this situation is about money (or lack thereof), not regulations.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Bob

      That probably sounded more clever in your head. How embarrassing for you.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • George Washington

      Only in NYC can we have gun ownership and yet still not have homes and businesses on Mars.....

      January 28, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Jeff

    Being homeless is a choice plain and simple. You always can find work if you choose to work that is. Simple put they just seek out handouts and make excuses. Get yourself either educated or skilled in a trade and look for work. Take care of yourself before thinking about raising others in your self pity.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnh

      I disagree to an extent, but there are certainly people who are comfortable being on the dole.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      "Get yourself either educated or skilled in a trade"

      great. pretend you have $5 to your name and you're homeless. how are you gonna do that?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jeff

        Who would leave themselves to have $5 in there name anyways. A person who simply does not plan for anything. If you can not find work due to lack of education than look into something else. Look everyone is dealt the same playing deck, how you play your cards is your choice.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          what do you mean "leave themselves"? not all of us got a trust fund from mommy and daddy, jeff. many homeless people had $0 to start with and have been on the streets since they were teenagers.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • johnh

        Federal grants and student loans. Let me guess, you don't believe in such things. Honestly, there are only 2 reasons a person gets turned down on education grants...1) you make over $100,000/year and 2) You are not an American citizen.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          so then you get to pay off over $20k in loans while still homeless? great, that'll work well.

          and yes you can get loans from the government but it won't cover the entire cost of a college education, even at a state school.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
        • johnh

          So, Ari....I suppose you have no idea what you are talking about....since grants do not have to be repaid. Even loans would be a great deal for these people. What could be better than getting educated so you are qualified for a higher paying job. Loans are GOOD for these people because it gives them opportunity at a low interest rate and gets them trained NOW instead of when they can afford it. If you wait to get a degree until you can afford it, you will never get one simply because you will not need a degree if you make that much money.

          To encourage these people to NOT pursue an education is simply enabling their continued dependence on government handouts that ultimately lead nowhere.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
        • johnh

          @Ari, you are completely wrong about the loan amounts too. You can easily get enough money to attend any college you choose and not have to work. I mean, you only have to carry 6 credits to be eligible for student loans. If tuition is $2,000/ credit, you might want to set your sights a little lower.

          January 28, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          no, johnh, i think you're the one wrong here. college has changed over the years (i suspect it's been a while since you were last in school). grants are nearly impossible to come by. the average kid–AVERAGE, meaning many owe MORE–owes $25,000 in loans. ie, money that needs to be repaid (plus interest). and the current college debt crisis has seen almost a quarter of kids who have these loans defaulting on them, ruining their credit scores. oh and half of them are still unemployed. great investment, eh?

          January 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
        • JohnH

          Sorry Ari, you are buying into the lies. The process for getting grants and loans has not changed in 25 years. I get people registered for loans and grants every day. You are simply wrong. I can tell you are blowing smoke, because you think $25,000 is a lot of money for a degree...in reality it is more like $50,000 for an undergrad and $100,000-$300,000 for a post doc.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        student loan – and you don't need the education because if you need it – it ain't gonna help.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        go to your church and ask for help. Get into one of the work programs offered by the city.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Sorry to bust your shiny bubble, even with a full time job mind you that is extremely rare these days, a single parent if lucky might make $10 an hour but that amount don't cover rent, utilities, food, medical & dental, clothes, and day care... not even adding car and insurance for that or public transportation. To make ends meat you need 2 parents working full time and make more then $10 to survive, period!

      January 28, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Luis

        I have been unemployed for almost 3 years, living in Miami at my mother house. Also, I'm an accountant, with an MBA in accounting. I've only had 3 temp jobs ,and a part time at walgreens, when Christmas ended, i was cut off again. If you have a job, please do your job well, there's too much competition for too few jobs. Educated or not, you are lucky if you are working now.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joseph anthony

        It almost seems like people are saying that less fortunate people are not allowed to have a family, that it is their fault for having kids. Totally stupid, and shameful....the problem is not making a family when your poor, its a jobless society run by ignorant scoundrels...give any poor person a good job and watch how fast they take it, I know i would....but I had to move to Canada to get an apartment and money to eat for ONE month and got an incredible full time job with benefits making 26/hour...all this provided to me by the counselors of their welfare system..........not FOOD stamps and a wave goodbye. The problem is mismanagement in USA....as I said earlier the government/s employees spend 3 times the amount to each family when they could spend less, but their guidelines are obviously defunct, and it's biting their derrieres now.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
        • doesnot_exist

          Give a job? What happened to being qualified to do the job first?

          January 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        don't tell me I've been walking on thin air all this time? don't tell me because you are leaving out the most important point. the last minute. has it never occurred to you that everything works out at the last minute? never before or after. expect some good thing to occur and it will. that's all you need do. forward!

        January 28, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        So better to remain homeless and uneducated? No one has ever said it was easy to get an education, but when an individual chooses homelessness or welfare as a way of life then they deserve what they get.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      so is it their fault when they have a job, but still can't afford a place to live, food and clothing for their family, etc. I agree that homeless people that don't have jobs (and are mentally stable) should be proactive and not just look for handouts. Since this article is referring to the increase coming from rent vouchers being taken away, it is likely most of these newly displaced families have jobs but can no longer afford where they are living and have no other options for housing. Situations can change in the blink of an eye, and for most of america that is living pay check to pay check that can easily result in something like this happening. Put some thought into what you are ranting about so you don't sound like a fool. :)

      January 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joseph anthony

      Explain to me then why it is that I have a Bachelors degree in Biology, I am a NYS certified EMT, and after they shutdown St Vincents Hospital I lost my job and havent found one available position since, and my wife gave birth to our first born son in the streets because the day before we were evicted, and there was NO help for us. Is it because I should have gotten a Masters Degree? Be careful with what you say in your own comfort, there are plenty of us who are homeless and educated, ( I'm fine now because we moved to Canada and their system is golden). Helping the less fortunate is a necessity but it has to be done responsibly and it isnt....In Plattsburgh for instance, the welfare office would rather pay 650.00 every ten days for a family to stay at a motel than to pay 600.00 a MONTH for an apartment, those are YOUR tax dollars my friend.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • coyote

        be willing to move anywhere for a job. they need you in the south and its not what they say it is either, its fun.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        Sorry to hear about your problems, but if you stay in NY you will continue to be homeless. You need to move to a state/city where EMT are being hired.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • NervaVels

      I know a young family in the homeless shelter system who are constantly being dropped due to being 'lost in the system' (this is the actual excuse the social worker gave the young mother), who are desperately seeking employment and find just bare minimum wage (and are penalized for even that tiny amount) who have reached out to find employment in other states and opportunities in other cities because they can't live in NYC. This is not about people WANTING to be on the dole, though there are many; it affects those who are genuinely unable to make it in today's troubled economy. I've seen both sides of this growing up in NYC and frankly, more decent people are harmed by the system's not working than there are people being lazy. It's frustrating and depressing and I've seen it happening since the 70s.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        are they being dropped or are they simply not staying on top of things and blowing off their appointments?

        January 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yep

      Sure. Try applying to McDonalds or Wal-Mart with a Ph D because you "really want to work" and see where it gets you.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        an applicant doesn't have to list all of their degrees in the application. I have no sympathy for someone who has a PHD and is unemployed.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • charlessumpter

      Being homeless is not a choice by any means. People loose their jobs, become ill, or simply cannot make ends meet (working 2-3 jobs) can become homeless. The world is not perfect and sometimes we all fall on our feet due no fault of our own. Please, in times like this show some compassion. It goes without saying that some people become homeless due to mistakes they may have made..but to say homelessness is a choice...I can't imagine who would choose to be homeless, especially in NYC.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Booger

      Being homeless is a Choice? Well then by all means they should simply choose to not be homeless.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      Jeff,

      What world do you live in? Who chooses to be homeless? No one. Now, some of our choices may lead us to homelessness, like being addicted to drugs and alcohol or mental illness which leads us to be horrible workers and get fired. No one sets out one days and says, "Today, I will choose homelessness" Life sucks sometimes. No matter how good you or anyone else has it, life can change in a minute. You can have money saved up all you want, but when you get laid off and can't find a job, or find a job that pays you $8 an hour, your savings QUICKLY disappears. I have two degrees and and many years of experience, yet I haven't had a job in three years? Why? Who knows. Maybe companies rather hire someone with less experience, so they can pay them less. Why can't I get a job at Target...who knows. Maybe they don't want to hire someone with two degrees, knowing I would leave if I found a 9-5 job. It's a very slippery slope, but until you are unemployed, broke and have nothing to show for all your accomplishments life....pipe down

      January 28, 2013 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      @Jeff Have you ever competed with hundreds of other applicants for one entry level, service industry job because that's what happens here in New York when a job opening becomes available at a fast food restaurant or a big box store. Hundreds of applications are submitted for each low paying job here in New York City.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
  85. The Mayor of Medinah

    And the state is run by which party??? It is that ingenious democratic math or as I like to call it donkey math, lets triple the cost, add more red tape, and give the people less service, create more dependence and off less value to the tax payer. What a rock solid plan. Harry Reid should take this into consideration when he attempts to draft a budget.

    “It costs $36,000 a year to shelter a homeless family in New York City. In comparison, a rental voucher is $10,000 a year. So it’s more than three times more expensive to have that family in shelter than it is to give that family permanent housing,” said Patrick Markee, a policy analyst at the non-profit Coalition for the Homeless.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnh

      I seriously doubt it takes $36,000/day to provide shelter to a homeless family. They are probably working shady numbers. The $36,000 probably includes food and clothing which is not included in the rental voucher.

      Where I volunteer, we figure about $20/day/person but we try to keep it at $10/day/person. We can easily keep it under $15/day/person.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • ari

        it says $36,000 a year for a family, not a day for a person. assuming a family = 4 people, that's... $25 a day per person?

        January 28, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
        • johnh

          That is what I meant. But it doesn't cost anywhere near $25/day/person.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • APersona

        You misread the article. It's $36,000 a year, not per day.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinks2010

      If it is costing the city $36,000 to house families in homeless shelters because the feds have cut out a $10,000 voucher program, why doesn't the city just start its own $10,000 voucher program for those who are in the shelters?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Danno

      It's free to tell them to f*** off and get a damn job. Since when is comfortable living a right? If you don't like living below the poverty line, get a job. If you can't find a job, create one where it might be needed.

      January 28, 2013 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Ap1238

    Sooo you are on a financial precipice and you get pregnant for the third time...I fail to see the tragedy for these takers. Those poor kids...their parents are the problem, not the government.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      this is what happens when we insist upon abstinence-only sex ed and we defund family planning organizations. don't tell people how to use condoms, don't let people GET condoms, tell them that abortion is immoral, then you're surprised when they have lots of kids? are y'all dense?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chad

        Amen, brutha!

        January 28, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
        • mountainlady

          I'll second that with enthusiasm.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ap1238

        Maybe they could watch a condom demo on YouTube. Somehow all the people with ebt cards have nicer phones than me.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • APersona

        Are you suggesting that NYC only has abstinence-only sex education? I think not.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        I would gladly donate to the fund that pays for people to get fixed. Why should I as a taxpayer pay for your decision to breed without a way to provide.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • sweet

      Not everyone that is homeless has always been homeless. These people had jobs and families at one point with a roof over their heads. If you lose your income, everything that hasn't been paid for completely (and even that at times) will be taken back. You cannot judge all the homeless by what you think are unwanted children. I am sure the majority of homeless were productive members of society at one point.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  87. wHaat

    So. Lets just give them all free houses. Heck! Give EVERYONE free houses.
    Why work? The can't work with out a car! Give them a car too!

    January 28, 2013 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • JackDW

      Lets just continue to ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't exist, as 20,000 children a night are there right in front of you. Burying our heads in the sand has worked so well, and clearly saved us money!
      Or not.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Linda Warner

        When our society becomes unable to support everyone- I mean each person has a job and works – not free loading – the poor without homes will get sick and then epidemics will spread. Tuberculosis is one of those types of sicknesses. I don't know what the solution is when people are willing to work, but can't find a job that pays enough for them to live and provide for their family. But it will affect us all if we don't figure out an answer. It sure seems like they would find a place with a milder temperature to live if they are homeless though.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lou50

      Escalade would be nice, does that come with an unlimited gas card so I can go to Florida?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Mayor of Medinah

      Well at least then they would have their won homes and become a true member of the community and shuffling back and forth to some shelter, let people have some pride and dignity. Then again these people voted these people into office so I guess you reap what you sow. Sad very sad..

      January 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • US of A NoLonger

      Yes and while they're at it, give them all guns too.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Booger

      Hey let us know when the day comes that you find yourself in need of help... y'know so we can all laugh at you.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • skastenbaumcnn

      Advocates for the homeless argue that if you can create a stable home environment it becomes much more possible to break the cycle of poverty by focusing on the needs of the children, the next generation, and maybe improve their education so that they are less likely to be homeless when they reach adulthood.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Shawn

    If their ever is a revolution in this country that succeeds , it will originate with these people. Very few poor people will support a teabagger/gop revolution, other than the rich and they will do it to keep the masses under control. History shows that poor and minority revolutions work better than rich revolutions. What does it take to change the mind of a person who hates the poor, here it took a civil war. This should cause the rich conservatives to try and change or stop their whole sale destruction of the social security safety net that has kept the "revolution" at bay since the first republican depression, but it won't stop, they will reap what they so.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnh

      You DO realize that the "rich conservatives" WON the civil war....right...

      January 28, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Sidb1980

    As a conservative I would not applaud the end of subsides. Instead, I advocate that you just can't blindly give give give or take take take. It is like the gun issue – we have knee jerk response – ban all guns or ones that look a certain way, but ignore the underlying root cause. Like poverty and homelessness and jobs that pay enough to live on requires analysis and not just some quick response. As in this case – budget woes – okay, let's cut. They cut without understanding the full implications or analyzing the long-term impacts. We need to solve issues, but we need to make sure the solution makes sense and accomplishes the goal. Clearly, this was not a well thought out plan. Blame both parties, they are both guilty of just being reactionary.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Mark

    I wonder how many of these responses come from people who actually live in NYC. Do you have any idea the cost of housing in this city? I do live here, and have worked hard and been lucky and have a decent rool over my head. But people who hold minimum wage or temporary jobs....they are holding on by their fingertips. Everybody is a freeloader until it is YOU who loses your job, or has your hours cut.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • APersona

      Well put. With all due respect, however, perhaps some (those who can do so) should relocate to a city where the cost of living is NOT so high. Easier said than done, but I hope some who can, are doing so.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Brian

    NYC is full of "Christian" churches which are empty 99% of the time. Maybe Christians should try practicing Christianity.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • lbcolorado

      If christianity is practiced in NYC, I am pretty sure someone would be all over that ranting and raving. You chased God out, He has to be invited back and NYC does not have the heart that it takes to humble themselves and ask God back. As for the homeless, Jesus did say you will always have the poor. I absolutely believe in people helping people, but NYC or Federal Govt are not part of the christian family – their choice, not christianity, they have to answer to – well you know who you are – all the wonderful people that put them there.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  92. tim Reynolds

    Give them all a free ticket to sunny California!!

    January 28, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • volsocal

      No, thanks. We support all the Mexican homeless.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lou50

      Better yet reestablish our forefathers single idea that would keep this country solvent and that is the right to starve to death. See how fast they will take a job the preverbal American wont take to keep from starving to death!

      January 28, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Serious Lee

        1 MILLION POINTS to Lou50 regarding his comment about the right to starve to death. It was so beautiful, I teared up a little, you wonderful S O B. When I was young and poor, I worked 2-3 jobs to make it. The were horrible jobs and I didn't like them. No one would like those jobs, but I did it until I made enough money working one job.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thinks2010

      You probably think you are making a joke, but it is actually a real problem for California. It has been found that there are some municipalities in other states that have done just that. However, some California cities have just started buying those who were sent that way return tickets if they are willing to go back, and a lot of them are.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Thor

    If Obama would push a high speed rail system so that the unemployed could move to where the jobs they could do are; and still be back home for supper, then we wouldn't have so much of an unemployment problem. We have inner city homeless, who want to work, but they live in a champagne job area. Doesn't make too much sense. Oh and by the way... the building of the new high speed rail system and manufacturing of the new high speed trains would create butt tonnes of jobs.... but, giant business won't dare start something like that with the Obama administration raping big businesses with increased taxes.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • KCRick

      Are you serious? High speed rail them to some job – what hundreds of miles away? Wouldn't it be just cheaper to move them? And where within a 300 mile radius of NY are there jobs waiting to get filled?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • mishas

      Presumably, before higher taxes were proposed, the big business was just about to launch huge high speed rail projects?

      January 28, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      I hope your post is a joke.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
  94. jim

    The conservative response would be: reduce the regulations and taxes that cost NYC employers so much time and money, which would free up their finances to hire new employees. There's a reason nobody can find a job in New York or Chicago, and lots of people find jobs in, say, Texas.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kay

      To which my response, as a business owner for over 45 years, is a resounding "baloney"

      It's not the business regulations and taxes that keep employers from hiring additional employees. It's the lack of sufficient increased customer demand to JUSTIFY hiring new employees! What we supposed to do...hire new people to sit on their thumbs and spin???

      Texas is tied with Mississippi for the highest percentage of people earning minimum wage. Unfortunately, the less money consumers have to spend, the less demand for goods and services there is. The "Texas Miracle" turned out to not be such a miracle after all.

      By the way, don't forget that "regulations" create jobs, too. And, no, not just government jobs.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Booger

        Hey what do you know... someone making sense. Astounding.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Regamo

      Hi Jim, In NYC it is not a matter of whether people are homeless because they don't have jobs. People do have jobs and sometimes more than one, or 2. the real issue is the cost of housing. The only way you can hold your head above water in this city is by earning over 80k a month. I do not live in a premium area but my one bedroom apt is about 1650 a month. You cant be any regular blue collar worker and live in NYC anymore. lets not forget the cost of transportation and food.

      January 28, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Terry

    It is a complex problem to be sure- No one should be homeless but people need to plan their lives- be responsible. Don't have kids that you can't support. Don't have kids if you can't support yourself- why promote poverty and misery- no one owes you a living!

    January 28, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • unaware

      no one owes you a living?
      I'm sorry....but they do...they do owe me a living. It is the reason why we did not raise taxes on the 1%....so they could be the job creators....it was a deal that the 1% did not hold on their side...please don't say I am not owed a living...I have the right to work. I have the right to a living. I have a right to happiness....do not think you are above these people because you have a job either. we all hit hard times...some harder...much harder than others....but be ashamed of yourself for a second please....

      January 28, 2013 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • spokenlikeatruegoper

        what jobs have those 1% created. zero go cry a river some where else. higher taxes same taxes zip has been created because they only care about there bottom dollar.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
        • johnh

          I have yet to work for a poor man. Virtually every job in the US is because of a rich conservative...

          January 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
        • Kay

          Actually, johnh, you probably have worked for owners who did not start out as rich and who needed the help of others to become rich. You know...like employees?

          January 28, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
        • JohnH

          One thing for SURE Kay, they were more rich than me at the time I worked for them. Rich is relative. The average McDonald's worker is rich to people in the Dominican Republic.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • TakeWhatYouNeed

        No, no one owes you a living. You have to EARN it. Regardless of your situation (unless you inherit) youi have to work for what you have / want / need. Wake up and stop expecting people /government / business to give you what you need.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • doesnot_exist

        Taxes were raised on the 1% that is why they are laying off people in droves. OBAMCARE made sure that big business would cut their labor force to reduce their costs.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      What would Jesus do?

      January 28, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
  96. palintwit

    Finding shelter for the NYC homeless is simple. Simply kick all the teabaggers south of the Mason-Dixon line out of their trailers. (They're animals anyway) Then give the trailers to the homeless. Easy as pie.

    January 28, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  97. JO

    Because WELFARE is not an entitlement. Get off your a** and get a JOB.

    January 28, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      you say that like you can just snap your fingers and find employment. you can't. especially if, god forbid, you're unskilled, too poor to attend college, or have been convicted for something like weed possession in the past.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • rs1201

        and whose fault is it that you're unskilled and not educated. I went to CCNY at night while working during the day. I lied about my age to get a job...I was only 14 when I graduated from high school. These people think that the world owes them a living...the quicker they realize that no one owes them anything and stop listening to what the incompetent loser obama tells them...the sooner they'll be on their feet.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          a homeless person cannot afford college today. i dunno how old you are but times have changed since i was a youngin. you're asking people to take on debt that they can't afford to take on just to get a crappy education at some for-profit school that won't benefit them at all. what happened to "financial responsibility", mate?

          January 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Matt

        Actually you CAN find a job. Weed possession wont stop you. I have that on my record....TWICE....and I still manage to find PLENTY of employement. Right now I work for a finance company making a pretty sweet income so that excuse in not valid.

        I saw a guy the other day begging for money about a quarter mile away from a Home Depot and a Target. You know what? Maybe try walking over there and asking for an application? Yeah I dont know your circumstances but at least you can say you are trying to help yourself and, guess what, someone might give you a chance!

        Bottom line...there is PLENTY of work out there. People need to not be so picky.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          well, matt, if i'm being honest, i suspect that you are a white man from a well-off-enough family. you probably went to college. and that's good for you, truly. but a black man who is unable to afford higher education who has a drug conviction is not going to get the same benefit of the doubt.

          January 28, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • johnh

        Are you sure...I hear the unemployment rate is dropping.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • palintwit

      The republicans have been shipping our jobs to Asia since the Reagan administration. Moron.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Yeah, like the Republicans who run Apple? Please.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • rs1201

        Yeah...that's the democrats for you...blame the republicans for everything and you'll be OK...keep doing that...you won't be able to get a toilet cleaner's job if you keep that up...do for yourself...no one owes you anything...

        January 28, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • johnh

        And I suppose taxing the rich will fix that...

        January 28, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • rs1201

      Actually...Obama told them that they don't have to...he'll tax the "evil rich" out there and give these people all the money they need...

      January 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • unaware

      give them a job then you hypocrite

      January 28, 2013 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • chris

      is it that easy? Wow, I must be doing something wrong. You mean I have to get off my ass and look for a job? What was I thinking....if i knew it was so easy to get a job, I would have. silly me

      January 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Mike Lewis

    I see they are basking in the Obama recovery.

    January 28, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • ari

      aww, it's adorable when republicans disparage the legislation that a REPUBLICAN-MAJORITY SENATE (yes, new york's senate is republican majority) passed and try to blame obama for it.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Legislatures don't pass bills into law. Governors do. In New York's case, Democratic governors.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
        • ari

          it's a budget, not a bill, proposed by the senate and enacted by bloomberg back when he was still (pretending to be?) a republican/

          January 28, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • johnh

        but that doesn't stop dimocraps from blaming the republicans...in a democrat controlled congress.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • OverYOU

      SO THIS IS THE REAL AMERICA?!?

      "One can measure or judge the Value of a Society by the way it treats its most vulnerable and most disadvantaged Citizens."

      If this is the case, then indeed America has very little value in the eyes of the ONE that will ultimately Judge.
      Reading these posts I felt as though I had stumbled across Nazi archives. Hatred flowing FREELY like WATER.

      Where HUMAN BEINGS and their LIVES, and their CHILDREN, their right to have Families, their RIGHT to EXIST, and live in the SAME places where they were BORN has been brought into question. So let's HERD all the POOR people into tent Cities?? Sounds like the CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

      The Government keeps LETTING THEM POP OUT BABIES?? So now the Government should regulate reproductive Rights....for the POOR? This is the Democracy that you BOAST before the world? YOU HYPOCRITES! LIARS, peddlers of broken ideals and PRETEND
      Values.

      You cowards who hide behind these cowardly posts where no one can hear your feeble minded voice, or see your scared faces. Sounds like
      modern day Klansman.

      Yeah let's cut the disabled Veterans, Women and Children off from BASIC needs like FOOD, SHELTER....they choose to live this
      way. Can so many in this COUNTRY be that ignorant of the world that we live in to think that these issues are simply black and white?

      Are you really that detached from REALITY of hundreds of thousands right here in your OWN backyard that you believe these callous
      and cold blooded misconceptions?? There are Homeless People working and giving their heart and soul to trying to better themselves.
      Many of them subscribe to the American dream. Little do they know THIS IS THE AMERICAN DREAM. HATRED, HATRED, IGNORANCE,
      ENTITLEMENT, CLASS BIAS, CHEATING LYING STEALING TO GET AHEAD.

      Do you really think that this Country is going to keep going the SAME way that it's always been?? REALLY? That's EXACTLY what the FRENCH
      ARISTOCRACY felt and thought and felt entitled to feel..........until the French Revolution.....right up until they lost their heads.

      Gob Bless America???? God DAMN AMERICA!!!!

      January 28, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • johnh

        Reverend Wright....is that you?

        January 28, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • unaware

        what did 15 trillion dollars buy us besides a lot of debt....?

        January 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • unaware

        and GOD BLESS YOUR POST. YOUR AWESOME

        January 28, 2013 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • mountainlady

        You are absolutely right on here. But I would add that I worked in my capacity as an obstetric RN and made a number of home visits to poor teenage moms and I can tell you that no one would have to force them to limit their families. If they were allowed the same access to birth control and reproductive information that wealthier women have they would make better life choices. These women wanted to work, wanted to train for jobs and wanted to have the best for their baby. They did not want more babies. Birth control should be sold over the counter and there should be free classes to learn how and why to use it.

        January 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
        • chris mcnally

          last time i checked theyve been teaching that crap in schools since the early 90's and birth control is free for women at any health clinic they couldnt make this any easier besides force feeding these lazy people.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kuron

        Another interesting note: A fair-sized portion of the homeless are mentally disabled and unable to hold a job or hold down any responsibly. So, are we now down to jungle law? Survival of the fittest and let the rest die?

        January 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • knuvision

        Finally, a post with an enlightened message!

        January 28, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Serious Lee

        The most vulnerable and most disadvantaged (ie mentally insane/physically disabled) should be cared for. The most unwilling to work should not. You make out all of the poor as holy little saints who have simply had misfortune thrust upon them. Yes, there are some who fit that description, but we simply see too many who deserve a good old fashioned "you need to get your stuff together now" conversation. Simply because someone has made all of the selfish, indulgent choices that led you to being an alcohol or drug addict does not make you the most vulnerable or disadvantaged. Jesus would tell them they need to get clean and get a job or move to where the jobs are. Jesus didn't have a problem with telling people when they were not doing right. He always did so gently and with a kind heart, but he got his message across. Christian kindness does not mean continuing to fund sinful behavior. Those really looking to make change should be given the chance/opportunity/hand up. Yes the will mess up once or twice but we should stand by them. Those who reside there do so out of their own free will. That should not become the common financial burden.
        A lot would be fixed by simply making fathers truly financially responsible for the children they make. A man can go to jail for smoking weed but if he pays $50 dollars every six months he can't go to jail for not supporting his kid. That is completely insane. After murder and rape, the third greatest crime in our society should be not financially supporting your children and not drugs. It would fix a lot socially and economically. It would be like Chris Rock's bit about the $5000 bullet. Instead of "Wow he must have done something really bad to get shot that many times." It would be "Wow, he must have really wanted to have sex to make that kind of financial commitment."

        January 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
        • SeriousLee, head in the rectal area

          Lose a job lately due to corporate downsizing? Then you would know by and large any sort of personal initiative isn't going to make the difference. It's purely luck as to whether you are going to find a job in the musical chairs sort of employment environment we are forced to contend with. I have been out of work since October, and a month or two longer and me and my family will be foreclosed and homeless. And I apply to 50 jobs a week, in a field with plenty of jobs but with plenty of foreign scabs for the corporations to import to fill them, anything to avoid employing Americans. The big business cabal in this country seeks to break the workforce down to minimum wage serfs. It is not necessarily the fault of the unemployed and homeless that they are in that situation. Use your head. Would you rather live in rags in a box under the highway, or a heated and lit home? Derp-de-derp-de-dum.

          January 28, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
        • Serious Lee

          I am sorry all your problems are everyone else's fault. The rich have always wanted/needed serfs. That is nothing new. What is something new is so many Americans sitting around complaining about how they are becoming serfs when they are doing nothing productive to reverse that trajectory. Send resumes while you work 2-3 crappy jobs. This is America. You are not locked into a social class AND you are not guarantied a social class, unless you are enormously wealthy or have settled to be poor and on the dole. If there are no fish in your lake. Find another lake to fish in. That is NATURE! If the fish come back to your preferred lake that go back to it. Please read "Who Moved My Cheese?"

          January 29, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Well put, OVER YOU!

        In the comments that followed, first I found I clown that implied that we spent 15 trillion on the homeless. Nothing could be further from the truth. The wealthy weasels in the congress changed the tax rules so that they could pay less taxes, and sent that money to offshore shelters or piled it up in their counting rooms. Gonna be able to buy a much nicer coffin with all that money!
        mountainlady made an excellent point about the poor and lack of access to birth control.
        The most important thing about abortion is: Remember, only Poor Women have abortions! Rich women have D&Cs!!

        January 28, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • chris mcnally

        ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE ME THE SICKEST, WISHING TO TAKE FROM THOSE THAT WORK HARD AND GIVE TO THOSE THAT DONT. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LIVE IN N.Y. GET THE F*CK OUT THEN, THERES A WHOLE COUNTRY OUT THERE. I GREW UP IN A CRAP HOLE TRAILER PARK AND GOT SHAT ON MY WHOLE LIFE BUT I PAID ATTENTION IN SCHOOL AND WORKED SINCE I WAS 14 AND MOVED TO A MUCH NICER AND AFFORDABLE PLACE, I NOW DRIVE A JAGUAR XJ6 AND OWN 3 HOUSES ALONG WITH ENOUGH TOOLS TO BUILD A HOUSE TOP TO BOTTOM. YOU GOT THE NERVE TO CALL PEOPLE OUT AND NAMES? I LIVE AT 417B GRANT ST. DANVILLE KY IM RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THEY HELD THE VP DEBATE (I ALSO WAS HEAD ELECTRICIAN FOR THAT AND GOT MY PICTURE WITH BIDEN) COME ON DOWN AND SAY THAT SHAT TO MY FACE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU. I HAVE A REAL NICE FOOT TO FACE PROCEDURE THATLL FIX YOU RIGHT UP, ILL TURN THAT FROWN UPSIDE DOWN.

        January 28, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
  99. ari

    ah, these comments are lovely. ain't it grand to live in a "christian country"? :D

    as jesus said: "Castrate the poor blacks that are out spreading poverty with every young stupid girl they impregnate."

    January 28, 2013 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike Lewis

      Jesus is a fairy tale. Now tell us what Santa would say.

      January 28, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • unaware

        santa would have least give them coal to stay warm...new york doesn't give snit

        January 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • comeagain

      Oh puleeeeese. USA has been far from a Christian nation for decades now. Though there are many "church-goers", people have been pushing out God from every aspect of their lives (or altering God to fit their needs and perceptions). And now that crap has hit the fan, they want to blame God for it. Go figure. The same is happening with the UK.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • unaware

        the uk is the us. we are run by the same secret societies

        January 28, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Alex

    The modern day conservatives would applaud the end of the subsidies, and their answer to the fact that its costs 3 times as much to house a family in a shelter? They would say that shouldn't be provided either because a conservative feels that if you can't afford housing then its your ethical duty for you and your family to live, starve and possibly die on the street–just don't get in the way of their limos on the way to the Rush Limbaugh benefit dinner.

    January 28, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • KarmaBurns

      Aptly put. They dont want serfs getting stuck on their tires ya know.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christian

      Alex There are more Limo's and Rich People at Every one of Obama's functions. Not to mention the Billions he just blew threw. Forget about the homelessness now wait till Obama is out. Will be ten fold. But you Liberals will continue to blame Bush. Remember what you voted for, Here it is! Your Hope and Change.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott B

      You do your side a disservice by painting thing so black and white. There's a balance that has to be met between taking care of the less fortunate and still providing motivation to those dependance on the government to end that dependance. If we take care of everyone, we'll be broke and have a lot of people not trying to succeed. If we don't take care of people, we'll have more turning to crime or just dying in the streets.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • johnh

      I find it strange....I work in a homeless shelter part time...It costs about $10 a day to house, clothe and feed a homeless person. Of course, they don't eat lobster and they don't wear designer clothes. But then again, it is not meant to be the country club.

      January 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • 13directors

        They're talking about a FAMILY in a major city.

        January 28, 2013 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
        • JohnH

          Me too.

          January 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
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