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February 4th, 2013
02:00 PM ET

The Bible Belt brouhaha over beer

By Tommy Andres, CNN

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Montgomery, Alabama (CNN) - Despite the fact that it has been federally legal since 1979, there are still two U.S. states that don't allow residents to make beer in their own homes: Alabama and Mississippi.

The issue is expected to be one of the first to surface in Alabama's state legislature as lawmakers there head back to session this week, and a colorful standoff is likely.

Homebrew laws have failed to materialize for the past five years, with religion and morality arguments narrowly beating out the estimated 5,000 underground homebrewers in the state who say their civil liberties are on the line.

Kraig Torres owns a craft beer store in Birmingham, called Hop City. He learned first-hand that the law against homebrewing is still enforced. Homebrew supplies he planned to sell were confiscated by state authorities the day before he opened in September:

[:45] "I think anyone agrees this is not so much a beer issue as a civil liberties issue. Things you can do commercially for money in the state of Alabama, why can't you do in your kitchen legally? It'd be like saying you can only buy cherry pies at a bakery instead of making them in your kitchen."

Leading the charge against the bill is the Alabama Citizens Action Program, or ALCAP. Its leader, Joe Godfrey, has been lobbying against any law that relaxes alcohol laws in the state:

[4:14] "I've met with some of the homebrewers and they tell me, 'Oh, we're fine upstanding citizens. We go to church, we're active in our community, we don't overindulge, we don't get drunk.' Well, they might not, but I've never met an alcoholic that started out saying, 'I'm going to become an alcoholic.' They start out socially drinking. They start out homebrewing and tasting."

Homebrew laws have previously passed in the Alabama state Senate and House of Representatives respectively the past two years. But not in both. Hobbyists hope this will finally be their year. But it won't be easy, because one thing is for certain: this issue is much bigger than beer.

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  1. Jorge

    I'm not surprised that the most teetotalling, bible-thumping states are the ones with the poorest health and academic performance. A British politician once attempted to soil the reputation of Sir Winston Churchill, one of the world's most brilliant, resilient and long-lived statesmen, by claiming that Mr. Churchill had probably consumed enough spirits to fill the hall of Parliament to the rafters. Mr. Churchill responded by procuring a yardstick from another member of Parliament, measuring breadth, length and height of the hall, performing some quick calculations and retorting, "So much to do, so little time..."

    February 7, 2013 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
  2. Ariz

    Finally got around to listening (didn't seem to want to work on the iPad). One minor point: Ricard Laird and Alvin Holmes, the two representatives with the audio clips arguing against home brewing, were identified as one being a Democrat and the other being a Republican. At the time the audio was recorded they were both Democrats. A few days ago Laird announced he was leaving the Democratic Party to serve as an independent. He is not joining the Republican party.

    BTW, look up "Alvin Holmes on Beer" on youtube. Don't blame me when you spit your drink on your monitor.

    February 6, 2013 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Al

    "Dry laws" in various counties are no doubt a reflection of the local belief systems of the people who live there (they are routinely put to the vote of the people – and many counties reaffirm their desire to keep their counties dry). However, at the state level – and not just in Alabama & Mississippi, but states like Maryland, New York and Michigan have laws prohibiting or severely restricting shipments of wine. On the other hand, it was under the Jimmy Carter (baptist from Georgia) that the federal gov't essentially legalized homebrewing and winemaking. And it was George W. Bush who signed the DOJ Approp Act that allowed individuals visiting a winery to make a purchase and ship it home. My opinion is that the biggest obstacle to changing these laws about homebrewing and wine shipments – are the distributers who currently profit the most, followed by those in the legislature who are protecting tax revenues. Placing such importance on alcohol-related tax is not new – it was the primary means for federal revenue prior to prohibition. Personal income taxes were introduced when prohibition came into effect.

    February 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ariz

      You're spot on about the distributors. In AL they've had a heavy hand in any laws dealing with alcohol over the last few years. In some cases they've came around and supported the changes but their initial reaction is to oppose any changes, even home brewing. But that doesn't generate the same type of response as the crazy bible thumping religious zealot that nicely fits in with the lazy media stereotype the media likes to push. That's not to say that there isn't some religious factor. I just think it's overblown.

      Part of the problem is that there's not big money in home brewing compared to other industries lobbying the state. Until two years ago it was easy and legal for the legislators in AL to get thousands in cash each year from lobbyists. You can't expect them to give away laws when there are people lined up to buy them.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Jerry Buckley

    I'd be curious to know exactly how many home brewers this jackass knows, or can even name, who are alcoholic; and who got that way after embarking on the hobby of home brewing

    February 6, 2013 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • QDV

      Remind the guy that one of "The Big Ten" - remember the hoo-ha about that in Alabama some years ago? - says something about not bearing false witness. He reminds me of one of the kooks that says "Look, I know Satanists, and ..." when spouting off about something about which they know nothing.

      February 6, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Will Siss

    Reblogged this on Beer Snob and commented:
    Here's a piece from CNNRadio about how there are STILL hold-out states (Alabama and Mississippi) that still outlaw homebrewing. Listen to how activists (hoptivists? revu-brew-stionaries?) are trying to drag these states into reality.

    February 6, 2013 at 6:44 am | Report abuse |
  6. mmi16

    Why brew beer when there is Shine! Plant the wild oats Friday & Saturday night and pray for crop failure on Sunday.

    February 6, 2013 at 4:08 am | Report abuse |
  7. Brad

    One more reason, among roughly 10,587 others, I'm glad I don't live in Alabama or Mississippi.

    February 5, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Barry

    What a bunch of ignorant country bumpkins. The real question is what would possibly induce people who appreciate the finer things (home brewers}, to live in these backwaters, surrounded by cave men.

    February 5, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • lol

      I feel bad for those somewhat forward thinking types that happen to live in places like that. They are probably stuck there for reasons out of their control (job, family, etc.) and have to deal with non-sense like that. Oh, it's ok to marry your cousin and have a stockpile of military grade weapons but don't you dare make your own beer...God will spite thee! "Now here, drink this here snake venom and praaaaise the lord!" Oh and before the NRA zealots come down on me...I have my own guns too and have hunted quite a few critters in my day. Take that Mr. Nugent. Oh, and I was learning how to shoot and load my own long before you decided to give it a whirl, you crazy nut job. Ted Nugent; the NRA's equal to the GOP's Sarah Palin and why we shouldn't sell guns to the mentally ill...or airhead bimbo Governors.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • steve

      Maybe lack of funds to leave? MS is one of the poorest states in the nation.

      February 8, 2013 at 5:14 am | Report abuse |
  9. DB

    Baptists.

    February 5, 2013 at 9:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • gen81465

      Perhaps Baptists, but not necessarily; many Christian denominations don't believe in the consumption of alcohol for recreational purposes. I understand the frustration that homebrewers (and anyone who consumes alcohol), as many Christians misinterpret the Bible to say that "drinking is a sin". In fact, Jesus himself drank wine. The Bible states that "drunkenness is a sin"; then again, overindulgence in anything is sinful. I wish you luck in getting the laws changed.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • QDV

        Baptists, Muslims, Mormons, doesn't matter: If they don't believe in the consumption of alcohol, then they shouldn't drink any. However, many of us are not members of those organizations, and we'd really appreciate it if they'd stop putting their hands on maps, inducting us, and demanding that we abide by their rules. Frankly, every time I see someone with a book and an agenda, crowing about how someone else needs to pay particular attention to the word of some divine being, I give thought to starting an organization that makes certain that -the believers- pay attention to their own rules before they start dictating them to others. Hey, wanna beat gays over the head with the book of Leviticus? No problem, but the nosy soccer moms better start paying attention to Leviticus 15:19+. Do they want to offend God?

        Prohibition was tried in this country by people who knew best what's for us. It failed miserably, and frankly, another variant of it is failing miserably today. Watching the radically religious try to rationalize how it's bad for you and could lead to alcoholism, well, I sure hope we don't read about those folks down in Guyana one of these days. Slippery slope arguments work both ways.

        February 6, 2013 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  10. Fiona

    I see a lot of people going on and on (and on) about religion, but it isn' a religious issue at all. The ALCAP guy has nothing to do with the legislation- that's just a guy with an opinion. The issue is keeping alcohol more regulated so that it isn't in the hands of minors as well as taxing it and keeping the alcohol content low. This really isn't that complicated, but some people allow their own silly prejudices to come between themselves and rational thought. If you are paranoid about religion, you will see it around every corner just waiting to strike.

    February 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB

      You're so wrong it's not even funny.

      February 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB

      ALCAP even describes itself as a religious organization!

      February 5, 2013 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • lol

      "Religious paranoia" as in: Religious people, especially those of the Baptist bent, ARE paranoid. Everything that doesn't meet their god fearing ideals, or makes them uncomfortable for whatever reason scares the sh1t out of them. Now; as far as keeping alcohol out of the hands of minors...well, if you can show me a kid who has the funds, capabilities and resources to brew his own beer, then I say we need to lower the drinking age for that kid at least and get him a business loan. Keeping alcohol content low? What does that have to do with home brewing? You can buy a bottle of wine, whiskey, rum or vodka if that's what you are referring to and it is not as easy as you think to make a high-content home brew worth drinking. Also, they would make more money on the sales tax of brewing supplies than the small amount of money they would lose to the people who decided to make a batch of their own now and then.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • QDV

      I work in the homebrew industry: Tell me when the last time was that you saw minors bombed on homebrew.

      February 6, 2013 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Jay

      I always laugh when I hear the anti-homebrewing activists pull out the "keep alcohol from minors" arguement.
      The fact is, homebrewing is not an easy, quick or cheap hobby. It takes a lot of practice and proceedures to make a good batch of beer. It also takes at least a month, often more for a batch to be ready. Not to mention the investment in equipment and ingredients. Minors will almost never spend the money or time required. The fact is, those minors are basically looking to get as drunk as possible as cheaply and quickly as possible. This normally means a gallon jug of cheap vodka, or whatever 30-rack of beer they can get someone to buy for them – and there's ALWAYS someone who will buy for them.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
      • QDV

        The "Save the Children" card was played in the state where I live when a vote appeared on the ballot to allow wineries to sell their own wines from their tasting rooms even if they were in a dry area (The vote passed.). There was the usual posturing by the nosy homebodies, to keep it out of the hands of the children - even if it would save just one, wouldn't it be worth it? - but I wonder: The last time you saw a bunch of teens being pulled out of a car that's been wrapped around a pole, are they also pulling empty bottles of Chateau Latour out of the back seat?

        February 6, 2013 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Tom

        Right. All the teenagers around here either drink cheap beer they steal (or are given) from their parents, or else they drink Boone's Farm. They probably wouldn't even like the taste of a nice dark lager, pale ale, or any homebrew with actual flavor. They probably think all beer should taste like Natty Lite because that's the first beer they ever had.

        I'm a homebrewer and wine maker, and I won't let my kids have any until they're old enough.

        February 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  11. lol

    Redneck morality and religious paranoia aside; I wonder how much kick-back Joe Godfrey and the like gets from Anheuser Busch and MillerCoors. The more the bible thumping, ignant McNuggets from Alabama and Mississippi are kept in the dark, the less they will ever know about real beer and will keep on sucking down 30-packs of carbonated dishwater. Please, someone tell me of a place in either of those two states where you can find a good selection of craft brews or Belgian's. Must be like trying to find Air Jordan's in Jamaica. ;) "We got Coors, Miller, Bud and Bud light."..."We ain't got none of dat fancy Yankee beer, Ya'll go back to New York if you want that liberal, commie stuff." We drink American beer dahn here."

    February 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • jay

      Annd the funniest part is, of Bud, Miller and Coors, not one of them is an American company anymore. They're all owned by foreign corporations. The largest American breweries are Yeungling in PA and Boston Beer Co, maker of Samuel Adams.

      February 6, 2013 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Back Forty

      You could come by the tap room here at Back Forty Beer Company in Gadsden,AL and try our GABF award winning beers. Or you could visit The JClyde or The Nook both in DRAFT magazines top beer bars in the country. If you'd like to take the belgians home with you I would recommend several bottle shops...Hop City in Birmingham would be a good start. I've visited vast beer cellars in Alabama that would rival any in the country in scope, geographic diversity, and longevity. If you were just being sarcastic then I apologize for not picking up on it...McNugget that I and my fellow professional brewing colleagues in Alabama are.

      February 7, 2013 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  12. nothing new here

    Amazing.
    And these are the same people that complain about progressives taking away their freedoms – baloney.
    Well, religious people, are you ready to start practicing what you preach for once?

    February 5, 2013 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • hnice

      exactly this, right here. guns don't kill people, so you can pry mine out of my cold dead hand.

      malted barley and irish moss, on the other hand? THEY WILL DESTROY YOU AND MUST BE ILLEGAL!!!!

      February 6, 2013 at 7:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Yes, so much for conservatives who decry a "nanny state." I guess it's OK when they do it.

      February 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Tim Beeker

    Everybody knows that the book of Proverbs is true, so, with that in mind... feast your eyes...

    Give strong drink to him who is perishing, And wine to those embittered in being. Let him drink and forget his poverty, And remember his trouble no more. Proverbs 31:6-7

    February 5, 2013 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • aniani

      Cool! Thanks!

      February 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Kayla

    Alabama is a ridiculous state that has not learned the seperation of church and state... No one becomes an alcoholic because they can brew beer at home... Alcoholics need beer fast, from the store... Duh

    February 5, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Florist

      No, it isn't a ridiculous state. Every state in the country has a few ridiculous laws on the books. Someone in the Midwest was just prosecuted for rescuing a baby deer because it was against the law, but you don't see people rallying against the state she was in. Being prejudiced against a handful of Southern states is one of the last of the acceptable ignorant prejudices. But, you don't HAVE to stay ignorant. It is possible to educate yourself about people and places that you aren't familiar with.

      February 5, 2013 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Barry

        Oh please... of course it's a ridiculous state, and you know it. Ye hah gal... now go fetch me some catfish and corn pone.

        February 5, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
        • QDV

          I'd pay good money to hear Lynyrd Skynyrd alter a lyric of "Sweet Home Alabama" to "Where the people can't brew, and the Bible is true."

          February 6, 2013 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
    • aniani

      L...O...L....! Too Funny!!!

      February 5, 2013 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      And really bad alcoholics don't drink beer anyway. They tend to drink hard liquor, primarily vodka. Why drink a lot of beer that's only 3.2% when you can drink something that's 40% ABV?

      February 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Tom

    I'll bet big $ Joe Godfrey has skeletons in his closet that would put his homebrew crusade to shame. Most hypocrites like Godfrey yammer on self righteous and indignant in order to hide flaws in their character.

    February 5, 2013 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
  16. RS1983

    Jesus was a the ultimate homebrewer. He turned water into wine. He didn't do that because he was opposed to drinking.

    February 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      I actually had a fundie Christian try to explain to me that Jesus actually turned water into grape juice. No kidding, that's what a lot of them believe.

      February 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Scott

    This life long Christian is starting do loathe many of his busy body, judgemental, not-minding-their-own-business fellow Christians. STOP FORCING OUR FAITH DOWN THE THROATS OF OTHERS, IT ISN'T WORKING! Live by example you bunch of Gladys Kravits's!

    February 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Chimay

    I was not aware of this, but I'm not surprised. I have to believe that not everyone is as dumb as most their "leaders".

    February 5, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
  19. NoTags

    How can you tell the difference between two Catholics and two Southern Baptists in a liquor store?

    The Catholics will speak to each other, and the Southern Baptists will pretend they don't see each other.

    February 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      I know a Catholic priest who brews his own beer.

      February 8, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Bozo

    Why should you always invite two Baptists to going fishing with you? Take one with you & he'll drink all the beer. Take two & they won't drink any.

    February 5, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  21. GO BAMA!!

    Keep the Lord Jesus in your heart, not a belly full of beer!!

    February 5, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      at least with a belly full of beer, people have enough sense to admit that it is a drug

      February 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jonathan

      why can't i do both?

      February 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chimay

      "Keep the Lord Jesus in your heart, not a belly full of beer!!"

      Tell that to the Trappist Monks.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barry

      Wait, you're saying don't keep a belly full of beer in my heart? I thought it was in my belly. Get your story straight.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • QDV

      You need to go have a re-read of Matthew 6:5. It applies to you.

      February 6, 2013 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      You remind me of a line from Cheech & Chong: "Before, I was all messed up on drugs, but since I found the Lord, now I'm all messed up on the Lord."

      February 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Chris

    Simply order your equipment and ingredients online. Even in the most bible beltiest of the bible belt, I doubt anyone is really going to come spy on your home to see what you’re up to. If they do, offer them a brew.

    February 5, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pt

      Or tell them you are simply brewing "root beer."

      February 5, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
  23. MrApplesauce

    Alabama and Mississippi, where some fools interpretations of the Bible trump your freedoms under the Constitution.

    February 5, 2013 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Billy Saul Hargus

      That is the case in most of the south.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Florist

        Um, no, it isn't. I'm guessing that you've never been there in your life and just made a sweeping judgement about millions of people that you've never met. How does it feel to be a bigot? Does it hurt your case against the South any?

        February 5, 2013 at 9:48 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Stevie J

    You have to love do-gooders like ALCAP trying to legislate moral behavior. God gave us free will to make our own mistakes and learn from them. These people would rather try to enforce a ludicrously antiquated law in a misguided effort to prevent alcoholism than encourage sensible social behavior. A homebrewer might have too much to drink, but at least they're not driving home from the bar loaded, hence home BREWED. Of course it's this same kind of "do as I say not as I do" pomposity that led to William Bennett gambling away millions in casinos while excoriating the vice of gambling. I bet at least one member of ALCAP has a flask he pours in his morning coffee.

    February 5, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Fred Evil

    I'd feel bad for the home-brewers, but I'd wager a lot of them think the 'War on Drugs' is a good thing, despite the fact that it has been a forty year FAILURE.
    They want respect and THEIR freedoms? Stop stepping on MINE. LEGALIZE CANNABIS!!!
    Alcohol KILLS 75,000 Americans/year
    Pot kills ZERO

    February 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      i would imagine that a higher percentage of home brewers would acknowledge that the war on drugs is a failure than those who buy at the local party store

      February 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barry

      I'm a home brewer, and I would have absolutely no problem with marijuana legalization. I prefer (good) beer, but that is just my opinion. Live and let live.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • QDV

      What's your wager, Fred? Lots of us in the industry recognize that "The War on Drugs" and "Prohibition" are practically the same thing. You may also find that lots of us don't give a toss about the wacky tabacky, either. Been drinking beer for three decades now, and have never taken a puff of the kinfolk of hops.

      How much money you putting down here?

      February 6, 2013 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Mom6

      Stay on the subject we are talking about, home brewing. Making wine or beer. Both of these drinks contain nutrients with health benefits if used in moderation. Red wine is well known to have antioxidants that reduce bad cholesterol, but beer has them too. Brewers yeast is better known in the health food stores as vitamin B1.
      It would take years of real alcohol abuse, or a combination with drugs/risky behavior for something bad to happen.
      An average young adult trying a couple of glasses of wine or beer at dinner or at a family celebration sometimes gets slightly tipsy. They sometimes act silly, or giggly. Usually they learn their limits..... Not to drink so much the next time. Without drinking alcohol again..... They remain sober.
      Fred; stop slinging that manure at us.
      A certain percentage of the perfectly healthy young adults trying your weed become early onset violent paranoid schizophrenics..... For life. I know one personally that has been in treatment since the late 70's. He is homeless & his family cannot take him in safely. He attempted to kill several of them. Even while on medication; he attempted to choke the woman he had a relationship with.
      A young person just by experimenting with pot has PERMANENTLY elevated their chance of mental illness. He/she now joins all the other users with a 7 times higher lifetime risk of experiencing a psychotic episode. With no further application of your..... Drug.
      The Netherlands is studying this very seriously.
      They identified this as a problem after decriminalizing pot.

      Regular pot users permanently lose 9 IQ points from brain damage.
      A regular moderate wine or beer drinker simply lives a longer & healthier life. With a better memory than a teetotaler.

      February 8, 2013 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      I'm a homebrewer, and I can see that the war on drugs has been a very expensive failure. And while I've never smoked marijuana, I think it should probably be legalized since it's not as dangerous as officials have been saying it is for years. I mean, you never hear of anyone going to rehab for marijuana addiction. And it's ridiculous for one state to legalize it while in the next state they're spending millions to eradicate it.

      February 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Unca Stumpy

    I have never met a single alcoholic that started out with "homebrewing and tasting," as the one screwhead claims in the block quote. I have never even HEARD of an alcoholic that started out that way. Most of them I've met start out with the cheap stuff at the grocery store, and they stay there. Unless they graduate to the bottom shelf at the liquor store.

    Heck, there aren't even *that* many alcoholics that only drink microbrews, let alone homebrew...only an elite few can afford to maintain a full-time Zombie Dust habit, ya know...

    February 5, 2013 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      And I can't imagine a hardcore alcoholic would be willing to wait the several weeks it takes for a homebrew to ferment and bottle condition. His/her money is going to a quick fix with something cheap and alcoholic from the local C-store.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Conrad Shull

    Everybody in the South where laws like this exist knows it because the hard liquor moonshiners pay off the County Sheriffs and they aren't going to give up that income.

    February 5, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Culpepper

      Get off you stereotype soap box there Yankee Boy. It's not moonshiners here in Alabama, its the State Govt. All liquor sales in this state are done through state-run liquor stores. The few private liquor stores in Alabama that exist must purchase their supplies from the state stores, then mark-up and re-sell, so naturally the state gets the monopoly because Alabama residents try to save a few dollars and have to get all their stuff at the state stores. If you let people make their own beer and wine at home, then the state can get their hand on any share of the tax revenue.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • teed0

        "All liquor sales in this state are done through state-run liquor stores"

        Down with the socialist dogs!

        February 6, 2013 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
      • Ariz

        Actually there are over 500 private liquor stores in AL. The state runs a bit over 160 retail stores. But the state is the lone wholesaler for hard liquor.

        February 6, 2013 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Duncan

    I live in Alabama and have brewed beer in the past. I am also a member of freethehops.org. Home brewing should be allowed in Alabama! I know first hand the effects of alcohol and what it can do to a person and families. I also have spent years around law enforcement. I can tell you with absolute certainty that alcohol related crimes, broken families because of alcohol and all other ill effects cause by drinking were not in any instance cause by the abuse of home brewed beer. I also searched google and found that states that allowed home brewing fared no better or worse than Alabama in alcohol related crime stats. People that abuse alcohol will only do so with the cheap stuff that is sold at the local convenience store. Brewing beer takes at a minimum of 3 weeks to make and I don't know any alcoholic that is will to wait 3 weeks for their next drink. In fact it may be an appropriate punishment for a judge to sentence an alcoholic that has committed a misdemeanor to only drink beer that he or she has brewed at home. This by itself will seriously reduce alcohol consumption drastically. If you have to wait 3 weeks (usually more) before you can drink beer. You would not binge drink, instead you would drink moderate amounts because it takes so long to make it. This is the way beer was originally intended to be consumed anyway.

    February 5, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oneleg

      I am just finishing off a batch that I made last year, some of the best so far. Home brewing leads to hoarding, you just don't want to share that good stuff with everyone.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Unca Stumpy

        Leads to selfish behavior and non-sharing? Heck, these Xtian fundies oughtta LOVE it! Anything that leads to greed's awright with the Low'rd...s'inna Bahble! Y'ain s'post ta help nobody but yerself.

        February 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Jason

    Brewing your own beer is an affront to morality! You should instead be giving your hard earned dollars to extremely large corporations to push their alcohol into as many conveniently located places as possible.

    February 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • gager

      Corporations didn't make homebrew illegal. Now the churches...different story. They really want your money and you get nothing in return.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Jim Brody

    What's the deal with the South? These are the people who yammer the loudest about "freedom", but do the most to restrict freedom of others, from slavery in the 19 century to home brewing today! The only freedom I hear them advocate for is the one most damaging to our nation–the unfettered ownership of guns. We should've let them seceed.

    February 5, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • SP

      I believe that it is primarily driven by religion. Many of these approaches are driven by a belief system, or rather by being told what to think so that they don't have to think for themselves.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • BlueJay

        Well then, if this is about religion, they better allow home made wine. Their lord and savior made it himself.

        February 5, 2013 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
        • Unca Stumpy

          Yeah, but they'd probably require you to use the same method to make it.

          February 5, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • SnapinTurtle

      Yup, I am from the south, not the deep south, but south nonetheless. The church going population around here are mutinous over federal moves to restrict assault weapons, but they will jump on any law that prohibits alcohol. Somehow the first is a fascist movement and the second is a law of the higher order. Mind you the people with the loudest mouths are necessarily living a “dry life” as it is.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Radio Stations by Cities

    I do agree with all the ideas you have introduced for your post. They're very convincing and will definitely work. Still, the posts are too brief for newbies. May you please prolong them a little from next time? Thanks for the post.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Unca Stumpy

      Cool spam, bro.

      February 5, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
  32. plus_ca_change

    Perhaps "Dr." Godfrey (and a doctor of what, I wonder, other than feckless proselytizing) should go back and review the anti-establishment clause of the First Amendment. While he has a perfect right to political speech under that same provision, even a cursory reading of his self-annointed, theocratic action committee's material shows him to be little more than a myopic, bible-thumping nut. Now how does he like the First Amendment?

    Nor is he a reflection of Alabama or the South in general – surely it's unfair to paint that many people with the brush of one group of fatuous demagogues, no matter where they happen to be located (although I hear Guyana has an opening since "Dr." Jones, er, departed). He's not even a remotely fair reflection on white Southern Protestants (being one of a long line of them myself).

    Besides, if you want nuts, come to my current state, New York. We have more than enough to spare, and idiotic liquor laws designed to line the pockets of the state and the existing distribution networks as well.

    His fifteen minutes are up. Next?

    February 5, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  33. sly

    Folks stereotype the South because it is so easy given how many elected Southern representatives say such stupid things:

    Federal Judge: "If Obama gets relected we should all revolt and secede from the US"
    3 Senators: "Women like rape and enjoy it. Rape is good for them"
    Lindsey "I am not really going to admit I am gay" Graham: "The First Lady of the US is a murderer"
    50-100 Southern Preachers: "God creates bad weather to punish Gay and Black people for living"
    Christians: "We need Big Government to Ban anything we dont approve of"

    Makes it easy to joke about these folks. But yes, obviously it is a stereotype – meaning it is likely only 90% true.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Culpepper

    Christians here in Alabama know what is best for all others living in the state. We should just get down on our knees and be thankful they are their Brother's Keeper. We non-Christians just don't have the mental capacity to think for ourselves

    February 5, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • StafCoyote

      Baptists are death on the subject of both alcohol and sex because they fear alcohol and sex might lead to dancing.

      February 5, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  35. joe

    Use vs Abuse

    this is the only thing humans need to learn

    February 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Jesse

    Down with religion, down with backward thinking, down with redneck southerners AND their auto guns

    February 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Dan

    I really hope they win, there is not a valid argument against allowing one to brew in their own home...I wish the federal government would let me distill for my own consumption, home distilling has less of the harmful alcohols then a majority of commercial liquors.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      same goes for weed

      February 5, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Kweso

    And Jesus turned water into wine at a home, not a brewery. Did you know that pastors are the only professional group who are allowed to drink on the job? They don't appreciate the competition.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  39. bear

    If Booze why did Christ use it for his first miracle and Last Supper.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
  40. AtheistDrinker

    I thank god everyday for making me an atheist !!!

    February 5, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • NOB

      AMEN brother! Thank gods there aren't any...

      February 5, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • AtheistDrinker

        Yes,let's raise a glass to imaginary super-natural being(s)

        February 5, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  41. peninsulap

    Dear Preacher: Alcoholics don't start from social drinkers. They start from people suffering emotional pain, guilt, remorse, confusion, self-loathing, etc. Why don't you concentrate on making sure people don't suffer the kinds of experiences that lead to that, and leave the fun of social drinking to the rest of us. You may be in the wrong line of work.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • JPC

      Because anything that might help people, to them would be considered "socialism."

      February 5, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      emotional pain, guilt, remorse, confusion, self-loathing, etc are the signposts of those who are easy pickin's for preachers

      February 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Boisepoet

        Too true...way too true...

        Know what the difference between a Lutheran and a Baptist is? The Lutheran will acknowledge you when you pass by them in the liquor store.

        February 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Chet

    For all you ripping Alabama, please keep in mind that is still against the law in EVERY state to distil liquor in your own home. Federal law still mandates you can't make your own liquor, eventhough I can walk into my 7-11 and buy any booze I want.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • JPC

      A very good point, Chet, one of which most people are unaware.

      February 5, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim Brody

      So what? This article is about BEER! One battle at a time!

      February 5, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Culpepper

      All you have to do is claim what you are distilling at home is bio-diesel for your VW Rabbit

      February 5, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry Buckley

      Duh... The article is about beer, which is brewed; alcoholic spirits are distilled. They are not the same thing; in case you didn't know this, you might want to study up a bit on the difference between a beer with 4%-5% alcohol by volume, contrasted with a "spirits" which may have 10 to 15 times that much alcohol by volume. This is like saying a Piper Cub is the same thing as a Boeing 747.

      February 6, 2013 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
  43. jeffreyw75

    I've known quite a few religious folks and groups who believe alcohol in any amounts are evil and the path to the devil. And yet they can't live without their prescription pain killers and other powerful drugs.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      my girlfriend grew up in a very dysfunctional family, with alcohol, pills, violence and weed. to her, anyone who takes a drink or smokes a joint is going to end up violent. it is tough to get her past this

      February 5, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Yep, there's a reason why Utah leads the nation in anti-depressant prescriptions.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
  44. sly

    Southernern's in general are very ignorant people.

    Ban all alcohol in that State.

    After all, Tea-Billies really love it when the Federal Government bans things in their house.

    Sorry Jesus Freaks, no beer at all for you.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • smacknfact

      lol, go back to 3rd grade.

      February 5, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Drinky Crow

      You calling anyone ignorant is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

      February 5, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Greg Faith

    That is why I don't live in the bible belt. Freedom is what exactly what it is. FREEDOM from religious tyranny. If I want to make my own beverage so be it. Stay out of my personal business. I know how to safely and properly brew, leave me alone.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeffreyw75

      The Bible Belt is all about government intrusion into your own home.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • BlueJay

        Unless it has anything to do with guns or raising taxes, then the government is wrong.

        February 5, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
  46. bill jacobs

    the bible says enjoy all things in moderation i have known a lot of reglious folks who hide the fact that they drink what i could never figure out is who do they think they are hiding it from there peers iguess because god already knows how dumb is that ? these folks are in for a big surprise !!!!!! nuff said

    February 5, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeffreyw75

      Not hard to figure out who they are hiding it from. They are hiding it from their judgmental fellow churchgoers, who have just as many skeletons in their own closets. Judge not unless you be judged has all sorts of loopholes in church.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeffreyw75

      This is hilarious. They will sell it on the shelves, but you can't make your own at home. This just shows the ignorance of these people and their laws.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • chuckie

      People who declare a behavior a sin and want it outlawed, then hypocritically commit the sin in private do not believe in God. Hiding their sinful behavior from fellow creatures is futile if there is a judging, vengeful god. If they think God will forgive them, why do they think He won't forgive everyone else? They are sad, unhappy and bitter people.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  47. slrman

    As always, the religious reich has to impose their twisted views on everyone else. Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational reasoning.

    February 5, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Matt

    Want to know a crazy fact about Alabama? Counties that "choose" to be dry receive payments from the Alabama Beverage Control Board for "lost revenue".

    February 5, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Ed

    You will probably find that it's the brewers and beer distributors behind it. They want to protect their turf and are using religion as a cover.

    February 5, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeffreyw75

      I find it hard to believe that the major brewers would lose much business to a home brewer. But Satan might gain some business! At least in the eyes of the holier than thou.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • cul8rv8

      doubtful. As a member of the AHA, the major breweries, as well as microbreweries and local craft breweries, all support home brewing. Many sponsor competitions, host homebrew club events, and invite brewers of all sizes to take part. Small brewers support home brewing because it leads to a more diverse consumer, as I've never met a homebrewer that doesn't go out and purchase beer as well. Macro brewers, like InBev and MillerCoors don't even worry about microbreweries taking from their profits, why would they care about someone brewing 5-10 gallons at home? And even then, they support those craft breweries as well. InBev (Anheuser-Busch) offers up their entire distribution system to assist with craft brewers across the country getting their beers to Denver each year for the Great American Beer Festival. They reverse the distribution flow and bring all brewers beers to their brewery in Fort Collins, then deliver it to the convention center in Denver, all free of charge to the participants.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ariz

      The local brewers in AL have been supportive of legalizing home brewing. The big brewing companies are indifferent

      The distributors are a different beast. The distributors objecting to provisions allowing people to transport small amounts for competitions has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks in the past couple of years. The distributors realize they enjoy an advantage that exists largely on the whim of the government. In AL as well as other states they have well established and funded lobbies. Basically you have to get them on board to change any related laws. They will make damn sure none of the legal protections they have are eroded.

      There is a religious factor with this too. Although very vocal I dont think it is as much of a major factor. It offers some cover for the legislators that vote against it. There are a lot of these guys that won't chew a stick of gum much less vote for a bill unless they get enough campaign contributions. Any money from the home brewers is in the noise compared to other corporate money.

      February 6, 2013 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Paul

    I want to know the following from this quote:

    "They start out socially drinking. They start out homebrewing and tasting."

    Where is the evidence that shows and proves that alcholics start out tasting and homebrewing. Some politician is making statements without foundation.

    February 5, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • jlv

      He gets his facts from songs and tall tales. Mr. Booze told him so. And I woudn't be at all suprised to find out that he has some of that hooch at home. And why isn't he lobbying against that gateway drug religion, with its evil temptress commion wine. After all we no it promotes canabalism and unwed pregnant mothers along with spirit worship and incest.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • aubrie

      and on top of that, WHY would what anyone tastes in their home be ANY of his business?????? Especially if it's legal anywhere else.... All that inbreeding has befuddled his brain.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  51. denver2

    I'd wager you could count the number of alcoholics who depend on home brewing to support their addiction on one hand.

    February 5, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Redspotz

      After you run that oen hand count, I'll bet you have several fingers left over. Homerbrewing (zymurgy) as a means to fuel one's alcoholism, eh? You'll need a fair amount of patience for that to work. . .

      February 5, 2013 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • steve

      All the heavy drinkers I ever knew wanted the cheapest beer they could find and did NOT want to take time brewing it. A number of them tried someone elses homebrew for tasting and didn't like it. What they wanted was lite beer that they couldn't taste but get drunk off quick.

      February 5, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Estev

    I've never met an idiot that started out saying, 'I'm going to become an idiot.' They move to the Bible belt and ...

    February 5, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
  53. t3chsupport

    Come to the Northwest, and let us love you...

    February 5, 2013 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • denver2

      Come to the Front Range. Denver can't love craft beer enough. Also, it's not in Alabama.

      February 5, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • steve

        Denver2, I have already looked at your area and as soon as I can afford it I'm heading your way. Great place to live and brew.

        February 5, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Aaron

    I don't drink. Never have. Never will. I feel that it is a damaging activity that can lead to a damaging habit and eventually a damaging lifestyle. It may not happen that way for every drinker, but it happens for far too many. But that's MY feeling on drinking. It differs from how others feel.

    That being said... this homebrew law is ridiculous. The assertion that alcoholism starts with "homebrewing and tasting" is absolutely false and has no grounds in reality. Budding alcoholics are not going out and buying home brew kits to make different flavors of beer. It's laughable. They go out and buy whatever will get them drunkest quickest. And the opponents have every right to be outraged at a law that affects the citizen while excluding the corporation. I guess because home brewers don't have a powerful lobby, their rights can be restricted.

    The same thing has happened in some states that outlaw smoking in public places. I don't smoke and I like anti-smoking ordinances for public spaces. They benefit many people. But many small businesses are against these laws thinking that they will curtail business. That's a legitimate concern. However the states have a right to enforce a law for the public good. UNLESS, they decide, like Michigan did, to allow smoking in casinos but nowhere else. Hmmm, maybe because casinos pull in a lot of money and pay lobbyists to cozy up to the state politicians? Pretty reprehensible if you ask me. And small business owners had every right to be outraged.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • ensense

      Looks like some big corp is hurting somewhere.

      February 5, 2013 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  55. empresstrudy

    CNN readers seem to be forgetting that those are also the blackest states so all their insane bigotry is therefore aimed squarely at black people as well. Awkward.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      You say that as if blacks have a voice in Alabama.

      February 5, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • dumbasfock

      Yes, the homebrew law is clearly an affont against teh black residents of Ala perpetrated by the white residents of Ala. Thanks for not letting us down. We needed someone from a wholly perfect place to make this about racism in the stupid stupid racist stupid south.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jim Brody

        LOL! Good reply.

        February 5, 2013 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  56. homebrew

    it takes 2-3 weeks to make a batch of homebrew. how patient an addict can you be?? it's clearly out of the realm of possibility for a real alcoholic to wait this timeframe for a fix, and therefore a pathetic argument from mr godfrey. He sounds pretty out of touch and shouldnt be speaking for anyone but himself.

    a real addict will hit the liquor store and get either
    -E&J brandy
    -Peppermint Schnapps
    -40oz of malt beer

    February 5, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Jerry

    It figures the last two states to ban homebrewing Alabama and Mississippi are the two most backwards states in the union.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • dumbasfock

      It figures, the guy who wants to make fun of AL and MS confuses last to ban with last to legalize. Way to point out how stupid others are! You rock!

      February 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • JPC

        You probably need to read more carefully.

        He meant it in the sense, "the last two states to (still) ban homebrewing," which is a perfectly valid grammatical construct. "Ban" doesn't always mean "engaging in the act of banning something," but also means "having an active ban against something."

        February 5, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  58. palintwit

    They will drink Everclear out of a mason jar and boink their cousins every Friday night but they won't make their own beer.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  59. ksiner

    Funny, these are the same two states with the highest rate of inbreeding

    February 5, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  60. GOD of the BEER

    Just wait til Pat Robertson hears about this

    February 5, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Rolling eyes

    I love Alabama. You can marry your sister but can't brew a beer for her.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
  62. bob

    Guns yes! Beer No!

    February 5, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • GDawg

      I agree totally, you have an amendment that everyone fights for to let you buy, own and carry guns but you can't make beer. Maybe the USA needs to re-write a few of the amendments to coincide with modern times and pull back on the gun thing a bit and allow the making of beer.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Ann

    I've enjoyed home brewing for years. It's fun to experiment with different types of hops and flavorings. As far as being an alcoholic is concerned – it would be pretty counterproductive for an alcoholic to homebrew. Not only does it take a long time, but most of my homemade beers have a very low alcohol content! They may be rich in flavor, but they are usually only about 3%, similar to "light" beers. It would take some real effort to get drunk off those!

    February 5, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      It's far cheaper (generally), faster (always) and easier to be an alcoholic at a liquor store than one that homebrews in their kitchen or garage. Most homebrewers do it for the fun and sense of accomplishment, the way that some people bake or cook.

      The strength argument is debatable, though. Most of what I brew is 5-6% or higher. Sometimes, it's considerably higher, but then you're looking at aging times measured in months or years. I don't know many alcoholics with that kind of patience.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  64. ryan

    Jesus drank wine. I guess they forget about that. I don't get all these religious wackos trying to tell everyone else how to live. Drives me nuts!

    February 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • KeyWester

      Not only did Jesus drink wine, he turned water into wine. No idea where some of these religious sects get their rules.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Michael

        Good thing it didnt happen in Alabama... Not that it actually happened at all, but still.

        February 5, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jay

        I turn water into beer all the time. Of course, I do have to add grains, hops, yeast, etc to it... but the point still stands!!!
        I don't want anyone to worship me, though.

        February 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mom6

        Please, don't blame my religious group, we believe wine & beer were given to us to be enjoyed in moderation.
        Our church holds a fish & chips I look forward to every year(best fish I ever had) that is BYOB. Plus we have an adult beef & brew night to raise money for the schools or charity. Our high school can even host wine & beer tasting events for the parents because we are a religious school & the public schools system can't tell us not to.
        I gave the pastor for the church & the school pastor a bottle of wine at the church picnic this year too. They really deserved it after playing guitars & getting everyone to sing & have a good time. Amusingly, it was a bottle of "Jersey Devil Port" from a local winery. Our pastor believes in celebrating the gifts that God has given us. Including good food, good spirits, & good fellowship.
        I sincerely pity people who are in churches that refuse to partake of the goodness we have been provided.
        They should remember that first miracle happened because, when the family ran out of wine at the wedding, it was going to be a great embarrassment & cause shame to the couple. At the urging of his mother; Jesus gave them not just wine, but the best wine! Jesus kept that celebration joyful. We are all meant to have joy, I feel sorry for them when they participate in a group that turns away from that joy. I just cannot understand it(shakes head sadly).

        February 8, 2013 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  65. bibleverse1

    Alabama makes millions selling alcohol in state stores.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • KeyWester

      OK. It becomes clearer now. Somebody is trying to protect their own bottom line. Do they seriously think home brewers will be that much competition?

      February 5, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Brian

        Generally, no, the number of homebrewers won't have much impact. On a a personal note, absolutely. I have purchased less than a single case of beer in the last few years. I homebrew more than enough for me and my guests (though, of course, remaining below the 200 gallon/yr federal limit) and I don't miss paying the ridiculous sin taxes.

        February 5, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
        • Mom6

          Last I heard, the limit was 100 gallons per person. Has that changed, Brian?

          February 8, 2013 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
        • Mom6

          Just looked it up;
          We were both right. It is 100 gallons for a single person, but it is 200 for a household with more than one adult! Thanks for sharing that information, Brian, I need to keep current on stuff like that.
          If I'm a dinosaur( according to my teenagers), I want to be a velociraptor. They are stealthy & look fairly harmless until.....;)

          February 8, 2013 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  66. KeyWester

    You can't legislate morality and it sounds like ALCAP is trying to impose their personal beliefs on the entire state.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Wastrel

    This isn't about religion; it's about power and control. But in some states the power elite couches their anti-freedom agenda as "religion and morality", and CNN falls for it.

    February 5, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • dumbasfock

      CNN falls for it or CNN is part and parcel of it?

      February 5, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mom6

      It is actually about maintaining a statewide monopoly. Money. Money. Money.

      February 8, 2013 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  68. Lundy

    In Tennessee the Lt. Gov. last week signed into law making it illegal for micro brews (resturants) to sell beer to go. No more six packs or growlers to take home after you dine at the resturant. It's the state wine associations trying to remove other alcohol sources of competition. So the Lt. Gov feels it's smarter to drink at the establishment and drive home than it is to buy at the establishment and go home and consume. SMART!

    February 5, 2013 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • KeyWester

      In Florida some counties were "dry" and others were not. Not sure how many are still dry or don't allow sales on Sundays. A few years ago I moved to a FL country were they did not allow liquor sales on Sunday but they carved out an exception for people in the beach community and for dining. Presumably this was done for tourism. However this law didn't stop anyone from drinking, instead the people from the dry section of town, drove to the beach on Sunday, got tanked up and drove home. If they had just been allowed to buy a 6 pack at the 7-11 down the street from their house it would have been a lot safer for everybody.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  69. EVN

    Sometimes laws are simply stupid, and this just happens to be one of those times.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • KeyWester

      Absolutely.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  70. tony

    US conservative "christians" follow god's 5 1/2 commandments. The 9th doesn't exist at all and for #6, thou shall not kill, only applies to non-use of a gun.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Pander Bear

      And we honor the sabbath by watching football.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  71. A-Rod

    Irony is that it is easier to homebrew crystal meth in Alabama and Mississippi than it is to homebrew beer.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  72. MarkinFL

    An alcoholic is not going to wait around to make their own beer. A most ridiculous argument disguised as logic.
    This is the same as the NRA who will fight ANY law regarding guns (unless it protects gun manufacturers). Logic and reason are not necessary.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
  73. palintwit

    Alabama is one big teabilly infested trailer park anyway. All we need is one good tornado and we won't have to worry about it anymore.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      Your comment is offensive sir. I'm from Tennessee and I for one am tired of people making off hand comments about the South like that. We're keep our mouths shut about your affairs and we would appreciate the same consideration. And not all of us live in a park. Jack ass.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jack

        Sorry, but a state that shoots itself in the foot by extraditing the only people there with enough tenacity to pick its crops cheaply and efficiently, without a plan "B", doesn't exactly project the image of a haven for rocket scientists...

        February 5, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
        • Steve

          We have plenty of rocket scientists in AL as well.

          February 5, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
        • fergusontra

          And yet NASA has a presence there.

          February 5, 2013 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  74. bw

    I can't imagine many alcoholics going into home brewing in order to feed their addictions. Brewing beer takes a lot of time and work to produce. It takes 3-6 hours of work (depending on whether you are using malt extract or all-grain) before you even put it into the fermenting vessel. Then you have to wait a week to ferment then put it in bottles and then wait another two weeks. It doesn't seem like a quick way to feed your addiction. Usually when people have an addiction they need instant gratification and are not going to wait three weeks.

    I find people I know tend to respect alcohol a little more and drink more responsibly after they realize how much goes into it.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      bw: same with weed

      February 5, 2013 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • jldub

      After that it needs to age or condition for a couple more weeks to bring out the best flavor.

      February 5, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
  75. yoopertom

    I am a recovering alcoholic. I have been sober over 25 years. It wasn't social drinking that got me it was my inability to cope with life's issues that led me to postpone my responsibilities by drinking. Almost all alcoholics I'm met, and that has be many, site the same issue. Problems that seemed insurmountable led them to alcoholism, not the taste of booze. What an asshole in the article to say that social drinking leads to alcoholism. That's like saying everyone who drinks milk will die, so stop drinking milk.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  76. saturn1

    By the same logic we should ban junk food as it leads to gluttony and guns because they lead to violence.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
  77. native northwesterner

    I've been a homebrewer for almost 15 years now. I brew and drink beer because I like the flavor of beer and I know I can make better beer than mass produced swill we get from the large breweries. I can make 5 gallons of fine craftbrew for the cost of two cases of that mass produced swill. 5 gallons will typically last me about 2 months, and that's with sharing it with my friends and family. 15 year of homebrewing and drinking about 5 gallons every two months. I guess according to Mr. Godfrey I'm an alcoholic.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • jlv

      That avg. out to 5 ounces a day. At that rate you sir will die from the horrible ravages of old age.

      February 5, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
  78. albus

    I always wondered why civilization on east coast declined as you went from north to south and then turned west. Virginia v. North Carolina. North Carolina v. S. Carolina. Georgia is slightly more "progressive" than Alabama which is better than Mississippi.

    February 5, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • dumbasfock

      Probably has a lot to do with your definition of "decline". I feel the same way you do but in reverse (meaning I feel the polar opposite of you). Do you think "decline" means different things or do you think maybe you value different things from those of us who CHOOSE to live down here?

      February 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Martin

    During prohibition, it was the religious leaders who pushed for a ban on alcohol on "moral" grounds, and then demanded an exemption for themselves for sacramental wine.

    Quite a few church leaders were arrested for bootlegging during the prohibition.

    What is the Church's moral reason for banning homebrew but allowing people to go to the pub?

    February 5, 2013 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  80. palintwit

    We arrive in rusty 1964 motorhomes.
    We bring our bibles and loaded assault weapons.
    We wear ridiculous clothing and have teabags dangling from our earlobes.
    We carry misspelled racist signs as we stomp all over the White House lawn.
    We eat Chick-fil-A and wash it down with Everclear.
    We are Sarah Palin's real Americans.
    We love the baby jesus but we love to boink our cousins even more.
    We believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that early man walked with the dinosaurs.
    We believe that nascar is a real sport and that Dale Earnhardt was a great American athlete.
    We are the birthers. We are tea party patriots.
    We are bigots and inbreds. We are toothless morons and we are proud.

    February 5, 2013 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Ernie

      Your stereotyping is stupid and not useful. It's not even funny. In fact it's played out and intellectually defunct.

      February 5, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Jack

        Yup, Ernie, it's not original or creative, because it's TRUE!!!!

        February 5, 2013 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
        • dumbasfock

          Yep true. The only part he forgot was "I will beat Jack into a bloody pile of liberal garbage and return him from whence he came". Otherwise yeah, its all true

          February 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • saturn1

      Wow. Stereotyping is fun.

      February 5, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Mancy Graice

      Amen brother!!!

      February 5, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • LKT

      My husband is a creationist. He believes the Biblical story of the Creation literally. He believes the world is only about 6000-7000 years old AND THAT THE FOSSILS WERE PUT THERE BY THE DEVIL TO TEST OUR FAITH. Had I known his ideas about THIS

      February 5, 2013 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
      • dumbasfock

        Pretty cool that the devid didnt want to tempt us to believe in evolution isnt it? Why else would there be NO fossils depicting any living organism evolving? Damn devil, hes so stupid. He forgot to put evolution fossils!

        February 5, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Proud

      Palintwit is just reciting his own heritage and actions

      February 5, 2013 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • palintwit

        Not hardly.

        February 5, 2013 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Hilikus

    It's a shame these religious people worry so much about enforcing their beliefs on others by law, instead of doing what the bible says, and worry about following it themselves.

    There is not a single place in the bible that states "force thy will on others"...

    February 5, 2013 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Martin

      There are, however, plenty of places in The Bible that talk about tolerance for others and forgive and forget, something that Christians of today seem to have forgotten.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
      • Hilikus

        Not all of them...just the loudest.

        February 5, 2013 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
    • T F

      You also won't find a place in the Bible that says not to drink alcohol. In fact you find the opposite. The Apostle Paul told his friend Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach. (1 Tim 5:23) And don't forget that Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding. Paul again said in 1 Tim 3:8 that deacons should not indulge in MUCH wine. When it comes to alcohol the Bible speaks out against being drunk, but not completely abstaining from it. I was raised to believe that the Bible spoke out on all drinking, but I found that that wasn't true. If you don't want to drink alcohol, that's fine, but don't try to push it on others because of your skewed beliefs.

      February 5, 2013 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        While there are many references in the Bible specifically to wine, the story about the transformation of water by Jesus at the wedding, as written in the original Greek, refers to "strong drink." Some suggest that Jesus actually made beer on this occasion, not wine.

        February 5, 2013 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
        • g2-8621476e47c1886404d6f649be8aeee9

          More than likely it would have been a form of Ouzo, given the access to spices, olives, and anise in that region.

          February 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Linda Luttrell

    The ABC Board is afraid it will lose more of its already high "sin taxes." Also, Alabama is one of the states that does not allow liquor by mail from other states...

    February 5, 2013 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  83. Steve

    You drink wine in church... Why cant people brew beer at home?

    February 5, 2013 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Robin Goodfellow

      Actually, Steve, Southern protestant churches drink grape juice at communion, in my experience.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Lame...

        February 5, 2013 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
      • my old church did that, too

        They don't use grape juice–they use watered-down grape juice. They start with the grape juice DRINK, not the pure stuff–the real "just juice" Welch's is too close to the demon grape.

        February 5, 2013 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
        • Mom6

          I just had an uncharitable thought.

          Obviously they cannot use the real thing, that would actually be imitating Christ;)

          February 8, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      A lot of churches, especially in the south, use grape juice

      February 5, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan

        Many churches in the South also use WINE. Many churches in the north use grape juice too. Baptists, Methodists, many different faiths. All of you South bashers can go to hell. American by birth and Southern by the grace of God. Oh, I am highly educated with multiple graduate degrees, licensed in 2 states to practice mental health therapy, and I DON'T own a gun. Born in the swamps of South Louisiana, raised in South Mississippi and PROUD of it.

        February 5, 2013 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
        • 4qu1n45

          Practice some therapy on yourself. Jesus Christ, he's pointing out a fact. If you've never been to a church that serves Juicy Juice and oyster crackers you may not know that such a thing exists. C A L M D O W N.

          February 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
  84. NYVeteran

    Don't you just love it when the hypocritical r3dnecks run afoul of their own faux value system? Its like when GOP politicians are caught in airports men's rooms soliciting gay prostitutes and then thumping the bibles on the evils of homosexuality. So bibles, beer, pickups and guns don't all go well together? Whats next, the church taking an anti gun stance? Didn't Jesus pack heat? Didn't he say kill thy neighbor when he comes for yours? FRAUDS!

    February 5, 2013 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  85. Lisa

    Please understand, the media always shows people living in southern states as poor, inbred, religious nut cases. I live in Alabama and that is just not the way the majority of people live. I get tired of people that live up north thinking they are so much more sophisticated and cultured. Get over yourselves. Yes, the law needs to be updated but please don't pass judgement on the whole state because of this article.

    February 5, 2013 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Unfortunately for your state, its self-appointed guardians of morality are not exactly showing your state at its best.

      February 5, 2013 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
    • SixDegrees

      "Please understand, the media always shows people living in southern states as poor, inbred, religious nut cases. I live in Alabama and that is just not the way the majority of people live."

      Quite true. You left out "hopeless drunkards". Allowing home brewing wouldn't move the needle on alcohol abuse in Alabama, which has already pegged the meter.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
    • MB

      I can't believe you spelled every word correctly! You must have graduated from the 8th grade!

      February 5, 2013 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Sven

      Stop voting the religious nut cases into office and we might take you seriously.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Lisa

        I don't care if you take me serious or not. I'm just tired of all the hateful remarks by these supposed "open-minded" love everyone all the time type people.

        February 5, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jack

      Hey, Lisa, I'm stuck in the South [Augusta (Disgusta), GA] for the time being, I've lived in New York, Curazao, D.C. and Puerto Rico, what are you telling me, not to believe my eyes????

      February 5, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Lisa

        I hope you can move back up north or where ever it is you want to go very soon. I am just surprised at the hate the south gets. I really didn't know it was so looked down upon. I guess everyone that is closed minded and racist lives in the south and people in the rest of the world are happy, open minded well adjusted people.

        February 5, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
        • NH

          So right, the only prejudice allowed in the US without question is that against Southerners. Saying we're all inbred and stupid is just another form of stereotyping by people who've never seen anything or been anywhere, so "bless their hearts".

          February 5, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          Now you're getting it...

          February 5, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  86. I AM

    You can marry your sister, but not make beer in Alabama and Mississippi.

    February 5, 2013 at 8:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Lisa

      You're a moron.

      February 5, 2013 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

        Oh, he is a notorious troll on this site. Unfortunately, for better or worse, the image that many Southern States have allowed to be presented in their names do nothing to show the accomplishments of the people who have lived there. Blame "Hee Haw", blame "the Beverly Hillbillys", blame "Barney Google and Snuffy Smith", blame "Gomer Pyle, USMC", blame the Hatfield-McCoy feud, blame Scarlett O'Hara. These are the images that most Americans have of the South.

        February 5, 2013 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
        • Lisa

          Yes, it is unfortunate that most shows & media portray Alabama and Mississippi in a negative light. I think the issue here is money and not religion. Some of the people that have commented are so hate filled and I'm sure ninety percent of them have never even been to the South before!

          February 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • I AM NOT

        I believe the Alabama State Constitution sets as a requirement for all families to marry within their own family. It makes for a tight knit community of like minded people.

        February 6, 2013 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  87. Jack

    I have a bible-thumping, fundamentalist cousin who got his religion fervor from an indie Baptist minister in Augusta, GA when he was a kid. The guy was always at odds with and angry at his father, in whose house he lived until he was 31, because the old man liked his beer and dominoes with friends on Sunday afternoons. He married an obese woman from Alabama whom he did not like, because she held the same worldviews as he did. When they divorced, he became enraged with her for subjecting him to a "life of abstinence or sinful reassociation". He refuses to cooperate with his father on behalf of his children, who his father suspects (the children have shown up with black and blue spots and are underweight) are being mistreated by the mother and he once assaulted his brother when the latter called him out for being such a lousy dad. He also claims that God talks to him. I cannot disclaim the theory that perhaps God does address him personally, but I believe that what He calls my cousin is not fit to print on public media or meant for the ears of the prudish.

    February 5, 2013 at 7:58 am | Report abuse |
  88. Da Ghost

    1953 laws by 1953 Bible-Thumpers !

    February 5, 2013 at 7:24 am | Report abuse |
  89. JJK

    Hey Godfrey– how about John 2:1-11?

    Jesus was a homebrewer.

    February 5, 2013 at 7:03 am | Report abuse |
  90. Rob

    I have never met a homebrewer who was an alcoholic. Or who got drunk regularly. That seems to be the preserve of people who enjoy going out for their drinking (pubs, clubs) and some who shop in their drink to enjoy at home. Homebrewers take their drink seriously. It takes time and effort to get it right so you drink to appreciate what you have made. You do not drink to get drunk.

    February 5, 2013 at 3:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      Not to mention the quantities most home brewers brew in would make it difficult for them to be drunk off their creations for any period of time...

      February 5, 2013 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  91. Epidi

    I was born in AL. My grandfather used to make wine from fruits he grew in his garden. Weeds too – he made good dandelion wine. Also a bit of moonshine that was so smooth it tasted like tequila. He was not a drunkard by any means. That Godfrey is spouting hogwash. Grandpa took pride in producing wonderful concoctions for his family's consumption on special occasions. RIP Grandpa – we miss you and the art you produced from your garden (legal or not).

    February 5, 2013 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
  92. Kathe

    I'm struck by the irony of Mr. Joe Godfrey's words. He seems to equate going to church and being active in the community with being a fine, upstanding citizen. Nevermind that he wants to control what people do in the privacy of their homes, while also jumping to conclusions about any and all adults who consume any amount of alcohol, also while in the privacy of their own homes. Mr. Godfrey, I think that you think you can read peoples' minds, guess their intentions, and predict their actions, all based on your assumptions, and that you need to protect people from themselves. Sir, I frankly feel that we all need to be protected from you.

    February 4, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Social Drinker

    Joe Godfrey is a prime example of extremism and irrational thought process. Alcoholics don't "pick up the habit' by home brewing and tasting. I don't care what anyone says, alcohol is NOT a gateway drug. Neither is marijuana but that's an entirely separate debate. If someone is sick and wants to harm themselves through drug/alcohol abuse, they will do it regardless of where the substance comes from. It's something inside the brain that craves the feeling of being intoxicated and will not stop even once you've satisfied that need. Unfortunately it is a horrible disease, YES...disease that affects so many people in our country and throughout the world. Personally, I wasn't raised around alcohol or drugs but i knew at a very young age that i wanted something to make me feel different. I've always enjoyed the feeling of intoxication through alcohol, mostly, but i did use drugs at a younger age. The thought of altering my state of mind is exhilarating. I think about it constantly, even now that I'm older and am able to deal with the cravings. But a lot of people aren't there yet. I don't think those feelings will ever go away. Sometimes i still give into alcohol. I joined the military to help myself get away and stay away from the drugs. I haven't touched an illegal substance in over 9 years. Moral of the story, i didn't start drinking because i knew someone who brewed beer in their house. If it's in you then it has always been there and always will be. It's not a virus that will just run its course. How you manage the disease is what makes the difference between being a productive member of society or ruining your life and the lives of those who care about you. But please do not cross a mental/emotional illness with the fine art of brewing delicious beers in your home.

    February 4, 2013 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mom6

      Studies actually say that alcoholism is partly genetics predisposition, & partly environment. Surprisingly; the researchers found that growing up in a house with teetotalers was as much of a risk factor as growing up with heavy drinkers. Kids with parents that used alcohol in moderation tended to be slightly more resistant to binge drinking, & developing alcoholism.
      You are clearly taking action against your problem with both knowledge & tenacity. You have my admiration for facing it squarely. I hope you continue your struggle successfully; with more good days than bad. Bless you.

      February 5, 2013 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Actually a recent study about Marijuana as a gateway drug had some very interesting results. They found, studying teens, that not only was Marijuana not really a gateway drug but that Alcohol was. Teens who regularly drank were more likely to be regular users of hard drugs after highschool than Marijuana users.

      I don't buy into the gateway drug easily. Certainly there could be other factors that might explain this, and the researchers explored those a bit, but had little data as to confirm a causation, only a correlation. The link between regular alcohol use and later habitual drug use is established however. Take that as you will.

      February 5, 2013 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
      • Mom6

        When perfectly healthy people drink a beer a day: After the alcohol leaves their system, they are sober.

        When perfectly healthy kids smoke a joint a day: In 10% the THC triggers early onset schizophrenia, they are mentally ill for the rest of their life. The more joints smoked the higher the risk. At 50 joints 10% will be schizophrenic. Plus continuing to smoke will make the symptoms of the mental illness worse.

        When someone drinks moderately for decades they live longer & have a better memory than non drinkers.
        When someone smokes joints for decades they lose 9 points from their IQ & have some problems with memory.

        In the Netherlands, where pot is decriminalized, doctors did a public heath study that excluded anyone with a family history of mental illness plus anyone with a history or signs of mental illness.
        In the group of perfectly healthy kids that remained, they tracked what happened to them when they used pot. Even the ones that did not get schizophrenia had a higher chance of a psychotic episode for life than the ones who did not use it.

        Read "Science To Live By" Friday Dec 3, 2010. It was originally posted on 27 October2010. Go educate yourself instead of being a lemming.

        When kids use alcohol & go on to hard drugs there is almost always a problem already present in their lives they are attempting to escape.
        Go to another site with your BS.

        February 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • aniani

      Hear, Hear!! Very well said! and very True.

      February 5, 2013 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Dumb and Dumber

    Religious conservatives are the dumbest people on the planet. Prohibition was the darkest time in our Country. It gave us organized crime and NASCAR. I will remind these religious conservative Bozos that Jesus himself made wine out of water at a wedding! What are these idi0ts going to do when marijuana becomes legal?

    February 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • midwest3

      Years ago, I dated a guy who was a very conservative Baptist. I often felt that the bible was interpreted to fit his faith's particular point of view on issues such as divorce, drinking, etc. I asked him once why his family was absolutely against drinking, since the bible talks about Jesus turning water into wine at the Cana wedding. His response, "It wasn't wine, it was just grape juice. It wasn't fermented." Oh, okay!

      February 5, 2013 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • shootmyownfood

      Nothing, 'cause the bible doesn't talk about marijuana.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Billy Saul Hargus

        Very good point.

        February 5, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fiona

      So, if you can find where any of the legislators said anything about religion and this issue, I'd love to hear it. Go ahead and look for it, we'll wait.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
  95. sam stone

    now, just make growing your own weed legal and it will be all good

    February 4, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Imma Annoid

    Is it a coincidence that AL and MS are the dumbest and poorest in the nation? I think not.

    Jesus drank alcohol, I guess they hate Jesus too.

    February 4, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      And did you ever notice whenever they quote from the Bible, it is always either the Old Testament or the Epistles of Paul, and never from the Gospels?

      February 5, 2013 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
    • SB1790

      The best thing about these two states is that they make the surrounding states look better by comparison. What you've got there are people whose only real hold on power is through religion. They use religion to stir up sentiment when they want to get their way or are afraid of loosing power over something. The areas are sort of hypocritical in a way. On one hand you have people who wouldn't dare miss a church service, not because of some celestial repercussion but for fear of what their neighbors or other church members may think. These same people think nothing about guzzling cases of beer at a back yard BBQ or on a boat in some lake. But oh no, can't been seen with it on Sunday by other church members. It's more of a don't ask, don't tell policy there. What you say in public that you do and what you really do in private are quite often very different things.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
  97. johnharry

    leave people alone, plain and simple. No wonder people are still afraid of alabama and mississippi, People still trying to control other peoples lives. All in the name of god.

    February 4, 2013 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mom6

      All in the name of money, more than likely. It would lose them revenue to allow home brewing & these states are among the poorest in the nation. After all, they can buy alcohol from the store, as long as the state gets it's excise tax!

      February 5, 2013 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Fiona

      No legislator has said anything about "God" on this issue. The guy quoted was just a citizen with an opinion. Where you got that, I don't know. And the only people who are "scared" of two states are people who are thick and uneducated. California voted against gay marriage, you know. I guess they're just a bunch of "red staters" that we should all be scared of, right? Ruuuuuun!

      I know I shouldn't care about what ignorant people think, but I am so tired of people who can't take any time to educate themselves and instead make these sweeping judgements. I'm going to assume that you didn't know that Alabama is one of the world's most technologically advanced innovation centers. Look it up in Forbes. Rockets are designed and built there. Most of the country's rocket scientists live there. People come from all over the world to study science and technology there. But if there is a silly law on the books, like every other state has, it must be a dumb place that people are "scare of", right? It find it so sad that humanity has gotten so low that they simply don't learn anymore. Just assume what you want. I just hope you never breed.

      February 5, 2013 at 10:00 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Brewster

    Another example of how religion has run over civil liberties. Not 5-7 years ago, there were towns in Texas that, if caught with more than 2 bottles of liquor/wine or 2 cases of beer in your vehicle, you were arrested for distribution!
    Why? Religion.
    There are still towns all over the US where you cannot buy any alcohol. Why? Religion.

    February 4, 2013 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mom6

      The fact that they cannot get legislation through their state government probably has more to do with money than religion.
      If you are not allowed to brew, then the state gets an excise tax on every single drink. Revenue is the real reason why these states refuse to change. It is no coincidence that both these states are in the top 5 of the poorest states.
      In my state (which happens to be among the top 5 most affluent states) a private citizen can brew 100 gallons per year of beer, wine, cider, or mead for their personal use without having to pay the state excise tax. It can be given away as a gift, but it cannot be sold. Selling it is still illegal, without paying the excise tax. Pretty reasonable I think.
      When I use a brandy or a type of hard liquor as a base to make something else, of course I have already paid the tax. For instance; marachino cherries are wonderful when the liquid is removed, replaced with vodka, & it is aged for at least a year. We serve them, in tiny cordial cups that hold a tablespoon of liquid & a couple of the cherries, as an after dinner treat. Brandy can be flavored with many spices by adding them & allowing it to rest as well, but these types of concoctions are not brewing & do not come under state law unless I start selling it. Then, I would need a liquor license.
      My state only cares if you make a business of it, then they want their cut of the money.

      February 5, 2013 at 12:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan

        I like your state, and your recipees! I was raised in a conservative, taliban like environment, and feel like I am liberated and enlightened after escaping the thought processes of the right.

        February 5, 2013 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
    • sly

      These southern states and dry states and Texas are states where the people want more Government intervention in their life.

      These red-staters are not happy unless the Federal Government controls what they drink, what they shoot, and where they can go to church.

      We have Big Government because of the thinking of these red-staters. This article is just another example of Big Government coming to the plea of the Christian-Right-Tea Party.

      February 5, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Fiona

        There's no such thing as a "red stater." In most states, the elections have been so close during the lat few cycles that there is virtually no difference between. Them. So, according to you, if slightly more than half of your state votes a different way than you do, you automatically turn "evil"? You become someone else? You have a bizarre way of thinking, and I would consider it pretty close to a mental disorder.

        February 5, 2013 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • shootmyownfood

      Too bad that they can't enforce these religion-based laws only on those who belong to the religion responsible for the laws. Not everyone belongs to a religion that tries to control alcohol consumption.

      February 5, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Squeekbo

    I home brew too (in a totally different state, of course), and it is a great pasttime. You have to do a lot of preparation to get things just right, and no matter, there's always some trial and error. It's a fun learning experience, and plus, I have Christmas gifts set for the entire family easily.

    Mead is my favorite – super easy and tastes wonderful.

    Ps, this is also a religious thing for me. Beers and mead are considered sacred and holy in our church.

    February 4, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • 4qu1n45

      Right? You people invented beer. Always encouraging to know it's only illegal to get beer from the only place you can't drive home from.

      February 5, 2013 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Mom6

    I have home brewed & made cordials for decades. I have always been a light drinker & even now I just share a 12 oz bottle of whatever I am drinking with my husband a couple times a month. My strictest rule was during a pregnancy or nursing a child I did not drink alcoholic beverages at all. Baby = no booze.
    Just making an alcoholic beverage at home is highly unlikely to turn people into alcoholics. These states are making themselves look ridiculous by not approving home brewing. Especially when any adult can just go into a bar or a liquor store, & purchase beer anyway.
    If their state's rules only specify home brewing of beer; may I suggest they also try making hard ciders, or meads, & metheglins(mead with fruit flavor or spices). Cordials made from adding flavoring ingredients to purchased base liquor like brandy or sherry are also fun to make.
    A chilled metheglin of orange blossom honey with orange zest, cloves, & cinnamon is nice on a hot day.
    Alabama & Mississippi really need to update this law. Home brewers I wish you good fortune & a good batch!

    February 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
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