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Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong
The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Thursday it will strip Lance Armstrong of seven Tour de France titles and ban the cyclist for life.
August 24th, 2012
09:08 PM ET

Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

(CNN) - The reaction to Lance Armstrong’s announcement that he would no longer fight doping allegations was about as fast as his record setting winning times at the Tour de France. Armstrong may be stripped of every title he ever won and faces being banned from all competition for the rest of his life.

Andy Shen is a writer for the cycling website, NY Velocity, and a competitive cyclist here in New York:

[1:20] “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement. There’s been evidence of his doping. They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them… There’s so much evidence over time that you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean.”

Armstrong’s remaining supporters still believe he’s the victim of a witch hunt. They claim his achievements are the result of superhuman capabilities. Shen sees a silver lining in this:

[3:12] "Among competitive cyclists, the hope is that as the truth comes out the sport will be able to clean itself up and face its past. And, you know, it’s pretty much acknowledged that the sport is cleaner than it ever has been."

In saying that he was finished with this "nonsense" and would no longer address the issue, Armstrong still did not admit any wrongdoing. He may still claim innocence, but to many in the cycling world, it was as good as an admission of guilt.

What do you think?  Does Armstrong deserve a lifetime ban?  Ring in with your thoughts in the comment section below.

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  1. Ed

    They should ban the "witch Hunt" it is being called. With out solid proof Armstrong IS still a champion. With out PROOF on each account How could any one take anything away,think about that.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • madcow11

      They had enough proof, Ed. They have 12 witnesses that were going to testify that he was doping. In addition, in spite of the fac that they could not find chemicals in his body at the time he was tested, they were able to examine enough records to show that he was taking blood transfusions. He's guilty alright. It is high-time that game got cleaned up and getting rid of the current scumbag cyclists is a good start.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        12 witnesses? I wonder who they were going to be. Landis and his posse? These supposed "witnesses" would have received immunity from being tried for doping. That is fact. So they would definitely have some personal gain outside of blackening Armstrong's reputation. I doubt these witnesses even care about bringing Armstrong, it's all about them keeping themselves out of the spotlight.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
  2. Bill

    No winners in this. From 1999-2005, every race morning, I was like a kid on Christmas, running downstairs, riding my bike, then back to watch what is going to happen today. No one will ever take that away from me. Lance will always be the winner of those tours.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. whatsup

    Sounds like a bunch of whining sissies. WaaaWaaaWaaa..I didn't win, Waaa Waaaa

    August 25, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  4. Justme

    Lance must be a gifted scientist in order to have doped and kept all proof of it from his blood stream and urine. Screw his 7 titles. Discover the cure for cancer Lance! Oh wait.....never mind....you'd never get credit for that either.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  5. pigmore

    Can't help but compare him to Johhny Weissmuller, who in the 1924 and 28 Olympics, and national championships unless I'm wrong held more gold medals than anyone in history. His Olympic times I believe stood for decades and was never questioned. So because he went faster and held record titles he must have been on dope? Horsecrap, the USADA has either been told by the govt or paid off to strip him of his titles. The govt should intervene here and force the USADA to prove its case, but that gutless noodle Obumma won't, he's proven his worth to America.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  6. TAK

    An American agency that isn't a governing body for cycling is trying to take away titles won in FRANCE?!

    But let's assume for a moment that the allegations are true. Lance Armstrong survived freaking brain and nut cancer! In my book he's entitled to take anything the chemists brew up. And it's already been shown that most of his competitors at the time were doped up. So even if Lance doped it was still a level playing field, he still beat them, after beating cancer.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  7. D Truth

    Just another example of the outward hatred for true Americans and the greatest country to ever exist, the United States of America. Thank goodness I was born here, live here and raising my children to be Americans. "The French Can Not Be Trusted"!

    August 25, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • TAK

      You do realize that this is an American agency going after Lance, not the French? In fact the international agencies seem to be on his side. While I appreciate your support for Lance, your misguided jingoism discredits your argument. Makes you sound like a NASCAR fan.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Marnie

      It was an AMERICAN agency that went after Lance, not the French! Take a look in the mirror and you might realize that.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  8. woodie

    This is funny. Guy can't believe Armstrong beat him so badly. He really was the greatest cyclist there ever was. What do you expect? He was railroaded. Harassed for years and years and just got sick of it.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  9. John

    So he's guilty because he won't bankrupt himself to clear his name? And everyone in the lab with access to his blood samples over all the years never was tempted by the millions of Dollars or Euros that other racing teams would be willing to pay to discredit Lance? And Lance is guilty because he rode faster than humanly possible? Did he ride away from the pack like his bike had a motor in it? No, no, no, no! Every rider that lost wants to think it's because he cheated, not that he was better trained, prepared and backed. Forget that he was an outstanding racer and rider back when he was just a youngster, he trains harder and longer and that the focus of his life and his team was to win the one race, over and over.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  10. Jesse

    500+ drug tests with no positive results, enough said.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • marco60

      Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, Roger Clemons...............

      August 25, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      Viva America Jesus! You got it right amigo! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Ole!!!

      August 26, 2012 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
  11. mttrailboss

    This was and is a 'witch hunt' by the USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of this titles and medals. It was and is a 'witch hunt' from day one !! Ask yourself, do you really 'trust' the USADA and Lance Armstrongs' competitors and foreign countries, that don't like Lance, and are sore losers' over the years ? He won a lot of races.. There are many people, including competitors', foreign countries, that would 'love' to see, Lance Armstrong lose everything, that he earned. I don't trust the USADA or his competitors and or foreign countries, that have been fighting his wins, over the last ten years.. They are ALL a bunch of losers'.., and you, and I know it.. They would probably complain, that he beat 'cancer' and his foundation to help people of all ages to fight cancer, is corrupt and funding (money) is going into his pocketbook or bank account. Professional cyclists are a bunch of (cry babies and sore losers'), and nobody can say that they are not.., because they are. Professional cyclists have turned people against the sport, not Lance Armstrong. Ask yourself, to you really 'trust' the USADA and their 'witch hunt' committee, other pro cyclists, and their foreign countries, that are mad, 'at their own cyclists', and Lance Armstrong ? As Tom Cruise said in a movie, "Show me the money..", or in this case, show me the evidence.. Black and white, there is no gray area. We want proof, not a 'witch hunt'. Mike in Montana

    August 25, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Frank

      I'll have to fully agree with you on your response. Guess what, we do have a lot of IGNORANT people out there....

      August 25, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  12. Dan

    Meh. The titles are only going to be passed from one (possible) doper to another doper. Did Armstrong cheat? It's likely. But his competition did as well. This whole chase is a bit ridiculous.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • jason

      Marion Jones never failed a drug test. During the BALCO investigation, they found out she was a client, and she admitted to using. Passing all your drug tests isn't proof. By the way, he failed at least 3. One of them he was given a pass because of a prescription for saddle sores. Another was in the Tour of Switzerland when he allegedly paid the organization to make it go away. Another was the 1999 test that was subjected to the same chain of custody claims as Ryan Braun's failed test. Back when cyclist were mainly using amphetamines (pre-1990s) the best were climbing L'Alp D'Huez in 48 minutes. In the late 90s and into the 2000s they were doing it in 38 minutes, much too fast for advances in bicycle and training technology alone. There were others with Lance's superhuman ability to efficiently use oxygen... Miguel Indurain tested even better than Lance, and even he couldn't climb the mountain that fast, and he failed at least one drug test. If everybody around you is using drugs and you're still winning, that doesn't say something about how well you train or how good your body is. That says something about your chemical enhancements.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  13. madcow11

    Armstrong is a national disgrace. I am glad that they finally got rid of that jerk. So many good people who do not believe in doping themselves were unable to achieve the real honors. It is unfortunate that the details of this have still not been made public, but after listening to the main man at the USADA on NPR yesterday, it was pretty clear that there was no "vendetta" as Armstrong tried to make out against him. They are just trying to get rid of scum like him from the game and open it to honest people. Bravo, USADA! There are indeed a lot of us who believe in what you are doing.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • MaggiesMessage

      And where is your proof?????? People like you are pathetic. I am against doping, but he never failed a test and the French can now be jubilant ( because of people like yourselves who hate someone for no reason and hang them without proof) over the ouster of Lance Armstrong.. Does it make you feel good?????

      August 25, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  14. Mike

    Just because someone gives up a fight does not automatically make them guilty. I'm no expert on the legal system but having a legal team to take on the USADA can not be cheap. Not to mention it's probably emotionally exhausting. It boils down to him winning and others losing. It's poor sportsmanship. It's well known that he was not very well liked by the Europeans who rode in the tours. Contador lost his titles because he had Clenbuterol in his system. He blamed the drug showing up in his system on eating "tainted" meat. Where was everybody then? I don't remember there being front page news stories about him and he was a three time winner of all three major tours and they actually found the performance enhancing drugs in his system. Wiggins was the first British rider to win the Tour de France, are they going to go after him because there's no way a foul mouthed Brit could win the tour without doping? It's totally absurd and ridiculous I know, but then again so is stripping someone of their achievements over RUMORS of alleged use with no concrete evidence backing them up.

    Lance is an amazing athlete, they've done tests on his body. His heart is larger than an average person and can beat up to almost 200 beats per minute which means he can deliver huge amounts of blood and oxygen to his legs. His lung capacity is head and shoulders above your average person, which means he can take in massive amounts of oxygen. His body processes Lactic Acid differently than an average person. For those who don't know, when Lactic Acid builds up in your body it causes that burning feeling and fatigue you get in your muscles after working out incredibly hard. Meaning he doesn't feel that pain as much as an average person and can fight through it better. He may have an incredible heart and lungs, but his muscle efficiency isn't much higher than an average person. Take that body, hard training and discipline, combine that with a high tech, well tuned bicycle designed to make the most of out of an athletes capabilities and you've got an extremely fast, efficient and powerful machine.

    Talk all the crap you want about professional cycling, but these guys are machines. Take one of the best football or basketball players, put them on a bike, make them ride 130 miles in a few hours, up and down huge mountain inclines, fighting headwinds and riding in the rain or whatever else nature is throwing at you. I'd be willing to bet they don't even make it through the first stage without sputtering, puking and crying.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • ExPhys

      Lactic Acid, which is rapidly converted to lactate, does not cause the burning sensation during intense workouts. Probably the #1 myth of exercise.

      August 25, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Brian B.

    Lance Armstrong passed 500+ tests because at the time he was Dr. Michele Ferraris' number one client, who was banned for life from cycling in July 2012 for numerous anti-doping violations including possession, trafficking, administration and assisting doping..

    Lance was taught by an expert how to beat the test and as the tests became more accurate his teammates started to fail them. Look at what happened to Landis and Hamilton, to name a few. Lance built a house of cards around himself and now it is falling down around him. If 12 people have testified that he did it, and then he did it, this is no conspiracy. Drug tests are beatable. I bet he would not pass a polygraph without being the number one client of a polygraph expert.

    It is all very sad, I followed Lance's career and for most of that time I defended him when the topic of banned substances came up. I loved to watch him race. I also saw how he acted at races where things did not go his way. I look back now and wonder if that was steroid rage and not the act of an aggressive competitor.

    In his day, Lance did more for the sport of cycling than anyone and he cheated to do it.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  16. Frank

    It quite amazing that Steve Kastenbaum, the author of the piece we just read will pass such judgement. None of us were there to see the guy inject himself of any substances. Let's think about it and let's try to be objective. If I was Lance, I'll tell everybody to go pound sand. He alone knows. Why are we wasting on such frivolity when we have more important issues to talk about...

    August 25, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  17. james

    The way you really know if someone cheated or not is you test them. USADA needs to get good enough to catch cheaters and not spend ten years after the fact going "he said, she said". The real problem here is the USDA failed to do its job

    August 25, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  18. widget520

    I, for one, find it odd that a man who was fighting his way back from cancer would even consider using steroids. Studies have shown some of them contain things that can cause kidney/liver cancer. I just can't judge because I wasn't there. I guess Lance is the only one who really knows.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  19. Paul

    The one thing they forgot to mention is that they tested Lance way back when and his blood actually moves more oxygen and feeds the muscles more then a normal person. MOST elite athletes have something that other humans dont have. It is more then drive and practice. You have to have the foundation..

    Saying that he was just to fast is so stupid. Every sprinter after Carl Lewis was technically to fast....some cheated some did not.....but they were all faster then a normal sprinter. Race car driving...football....pitching.....it all has to do with body mechanics.....he was not a freak...he was a champion of his time.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  20. steve

    All Americans should boycott all future Tour De Frances. This is based totally on jealousy of his abilities They couldn't prove it while he was racing now they can go back bribe, cheat and steal their way to having some evidence.The entire world should be ashamed of what they are doing.The entire world should boycott the tour and end this travesty.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  21. Andrew

    if they take his titles away, who are they going to give it to? they probably have to go down to 15th place to find someone who wasn't doping.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  22. DOUG

    Yup, Lance was warned. Obama said if you don't fully support the Democrat party you are an enemy and you will be punished.
    If Lance was an Obama supporter he would have been stripped of nothing, please vote morally this November this madness is socialism.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Potrzebie

      You are truly an idiot you troll. BTW, it's "Democratic Party".

      August 25, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
      • DOUG

        The idiot is the one who against the truth, that's you. ...and no it is the Democrat party, the National Socialist party of America, nothing Democratic about that hateful party.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Relsseab

      Idiot!!!!

      August 25, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  23. alwaysright

    Good. 1 Less Cyclist on the road posing trouble for cars that are driving on a road meant for cars. Use the bike paths cyclists, no one likes you when they come up on a biker on a road. Now ban the rest of the group next.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Potrzebie

      Better watch out "alwaysright". The laws of karma dictate that now you're going to be run off the road by an 18-wheeler..

      August 25, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  24. Bruce

    Andy Shen should be removed from being a writer...seriously, "he did ride at a speed that has been pretty much show to be impossible..." What does pretty much mean? If you are going to write then write about facts instead of stating an opinion. What about Usain Bolt...he runs at speeds that are "pretty much" impossible but he does and I am sure he is getting a hella lot of drug testing done...just like Lance. Lance could very well have used drugs but where is the proof, show the facts, until then he will be the best cyclist ever!

    August 25, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • DOUG

      Bolt never claimed to be a Republican, there is your difference. Obama and Holder feel no remorse for killing a border patrol agent in their attempt to create a false scenario to ban guns, as Obama said if you don't vote Democrat you are the enemy and you will be punished, Lance learned as many have that those were not just words to satisfy his hateful lib followers.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Potrzebie

        You're on the wrong page or something Doug. Please adjust your browser.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
        • DOUG

          Nope. sorry if you don't want the truth but many do, as a Democrat you think that only you matter but that is not the case, you are no more important than anyone else.

          Obama stated that if you are not a Democrat you are the enemy and he will punish his enemies. Lance has expressed conservative views and support for Republicans. They killed a border patrol agent and didn't blink an eye, in fact most Democrats celebrated that death, just as most Democrat support what has been done to Lance here.

          August 25, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Conroy

      Andy Shen is probably the least credible person to write on this. I too am a racer (Cat 1...and in NYC) and the nonsense that Andy is spewing just sounds like he one of those guys that hates on everything to make himself look like an expert..or at the very least, someone who knows something the rest of us don't. Andy, retroactively checking samples years later is ridiculous. How many years later are the trace amounts of drugs even still there? What labs processed the samples? Were the samples tainted? Can you prove that they weren't. Andy, do us all all a favor and stick to being a mediocre cyclist like the rest of us weekend warriors.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Herrodotus

      Best cyclist ever! that would be Eddie Merx.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  25. David Murraw

    &(#$ you USADA, you &@^! scum *&*A pice of sh&^!@t fake agency.
    USADA didn't win.
    USADA got blasted in the court of public opinion.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  26. John

    In over 100 tests for Drugs, Lance Armstrong NEVER tested positive; not even once. No one has shown any proof or even a shred of evidence against Lance Armstrong; it has all been hearsay. At least one of the accusers is a Doper and a known liar. I hope that Lance Armstrong files a civil suit and sues all those involved in this kangaroo court for defamation.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  27. tc

    People who fight and defeat cancer often gain another gear of determination, perspective, and endurance. What if Lance, who was already at the top level as demonstrated by twoplyfour above, was able to access this new gear after his battle which took him beyond others in the comparatively trivial cycling sport? This, combined with an extreme will to win could create superior results and a host of jealous rivals. It is possible, especially without actual proof of the contrary.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  28. Craig

    What you can't take away from any of these guys is that all of them in the TDF are in another Galaxy when it comes to their ability with or without drups. Assuming "everyone was doing it, Armstong as well, then he was still better than everyone else. I admired and still do how hard he fought for the 2003 win. Having said that I've been on the fence about did he or didn't he for years. When if became public that George was going to testify, i thought that he alone could sway the opinion of the tribunal, and I think Armstong may have as well. I don't think he would have lied and I also think that perhaps George had some pretty damning evidence. Retrobution due to an incident in which George felt that he was denied a yellow because Astana or Radioshack (whateve team Armstrong was riding for at the time) tracked him down an prevented a win and yellow jersey? I rememver George being incredibly upset at the time). Perhaps ... I don;t know any of these guys, but my gut tells me that George wouldn't have lied giving his testomy. 6 months from now anyone that is i nterested is still going to know everything that would have been discussed in the hearing. It's all going to be leaked to the public. If Amstrong's decision to give up the fight was a final attempt at squashing his version of history, he failed in that regard..

    Then of couse there's the arguement about what is doping? I know its intended to more centered on EPO and the like, but...
    is anything that improves performance or enducrance a form of doping? Is downing a couple of Cokes for the cafiene and sugar doping? Do the gels that are available at any bike store constitute doping? THere's no denying that the contents in the gel to stave off boking or impove energy levels. What about sport drinks? I am not " pro doping", but where do you draw the line?

    August 25, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  29. Dean

    I for one believe Lance. I have watched the Tour for years. The thing that stands out is all the coverage they did of Lance in the off season. He was always working, in the wind tunnels, helping with new equipment, etc. Every year you would hear the commentators discuss how people like Ullrich partied all winter and had to lose lots of weight before they could even begin getting ready. Lance never did that. He was always working on his form, technique, and overall fitness.

    I am a huge fan. I will say that Lance is the best Tour rider ever- but not the best cyclist. Why? Unlike the other greats, Lance focused exclusively on the Tour and not the other races. He scouted the routes, he prepared to peak in July, etc. Most importantly, unlike other teams with GC contenders, Lance's teams did not have sprinters or folks who were in to win stages. They were 100% hired and dedicated to support Lance. That did give him a huge advantage and definitely helped with all the wins.

    Only if Lance admits or Hincapie says he saw and helped him dope will I believe any of the charges. But my second favorite rider, Big George, should also be banned, stripped, and humiliated if that is true.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Don

      (1) If it is TRUE that none of Lance's tests had ever failed, then I trust those tests more than the comments of cyclists who have already been found guilty of doping.
      (2) IF EPO and traces of anything else can stay in samples for this long.... then has ANYONE investigated whether these so-called newly-discovered traces in Lance's old samples could be from the chemicals that Lance had to take while he was fighting his cancers??

      August 25, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
      • Clarajean

        I also have watched and admired Lance through the years and was right there cheering him on through his cancer fight. I, like you, have wondered how much that could have altered chemicals in his body or had stuff in it that may have changed other things. How sad, all of this.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
        • gakster

          He was a pig and an idiot before cancer, and a pig an an idiot after it.

          August 25, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • joe

      He's dirty. Yes, it is sad and hard to believe for some. But as a former professional athlete myself, I seen this all too much. Unfortunately in the industry, it is common knowledge that only the stupid ones ever fail an EPO test. I personally KNOW athletes that chose the EPO route, and have never been caught, I've seen athletes take EPO, and they've never been caught. Just recently Eddy Hellebuyck who tested positive in 2004, and denied for 8 years his use (with the same proclamation of having passed so many tests), came out and admitted his use. Lance knows this time, he is caught for good and the proof is there-which is why he won't go to arbitration. If he goes, he is done–100%, so why not avoid and say he's tired of the fight, etc and hope people believe him.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Major Kong

      Dean, you have to understand who constructed the wording of this article. CNN is the liberal stalwart for judging anyone not in line with their politics. Lance is a conservative and so is judged guilty by this liberal organization, who by the way employ and continue to give voice to a discovered plagiarist. And that's just what the world currently is aware of and they've admitted to.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  30. toddforsythe

    Lance is my here on the road and in life. Always. Enough said on the topic.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  31. toddforsythe

    Lance is my role model on the road and in life. Always. Enough said.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      Well, if you don't make some serious changes, you're lost. God help you.

      August 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Suzanne

    I hope that Mr. Armstrong can put this behind him, I am sad for him, why would you put yourself through such shit, WHY, I believe and will always that he was a clean cyclists and others were jealous and in the end, God and he knows......

    take care Lance, something so amazing is just around the next corner.....

    August 25, 2012 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      You Lance-freaks remind me of the people who thought Steve Jobs was the second coming of Jesus. What a bunch of brainwashed automotons.

      August 25, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
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  33. Joe

    Someone must be paying a lot of money to hang Lance. This is doing nothing for American cycling or cycling in
    general. Have we seen any proof that he is guilty? Can they prove the old blood that they have (if it's tainted) wasn't done so, either deliberately or accidentally in the lab or is everything that we've heard just hearsay. Lance, I'm behind you all the way, both you and Greg LeMond have done way too much for cycling around the world to take it all back now!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Theend

      I agree; someone is spending a lot of money, essentially destroying the sport of American cycling. It seems really odd. I know the French wanted to get Armstrong. Could it be the French? It's little like Formula 1 racing; they really don't want Americans to compete.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  34. Theend

    Wow, what a bunch of sour grapes from a group of athletes. I didn't even recognize any of their names.The truth is they are all to blame. The real target - and victim - here is U.S. and International cycling. What kid wants to grow up to be a Tour de France or Olympic cyclist now? Not many; it's too dirty. The sport of cycling - and the industry - has been diminished.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  35. R

    Cheater. Should be banned and forgotten. Good riddance!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
  36. lmcgeko

    TE your statement is because? you have the smoking gun?
    c'mon – it would be like me calling you names without backing it up and you having to defend it.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
    • TE

      I believe Frankie Andreau, Tyler Hamilton, and Floyd Landis are telling the truth about what they experienced. I believe the USADA does in fact have 12 former teammates lined up to testify against Armstrong. I believe the UCI covered up Armstrong's positive test in the Tour de Swiss. Lastly, I believe an innocent man would not give up on the process he signed off on when he became pro. This is the last move of a clever cheat who saw the writing on the wall. Claim you are tired, claim the process isn't fair, claim you don't recognize the court right to prosecute you. Walk away and hope somebody buys these lies too.

      August 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Jim in Georgia

    He drew so much attention to the sport and to the Tour-de-France that I would think everyone in cycling would, if only secretly. be grateful. But you know, that's just the way I see it.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:43 am | Report abuse |
  38. Roland Uringler

    The cyclists are a bunch of sore losers the lot of them. Lance passed all the drug tests. The USADA should be dissolved.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Griffin

      Regardless of who now "technically" wins – ALL the world will forever remember who the

      Doesn't matter who the supposed winners are now, Lance will always be remember as the Best of His Era. Way to go Lance – with the grace and class of a true CHAMPION. I bet that during the rest of your life, you will give even more through your foundation. You are already a champ, regardless of your cycling career.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  39. MikeS

    There's some confusion here. Lance wasn't taking PEDs, he was taking PEZ!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  40. matt

    I think Joey chestnut cheated. There no way someone could eat that many hotdogs. Its impossible. He must be using peds.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  41. Sean

    Witchhunt...nothing but a witchhunt.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Not Bill

      Maybe it's because they caught a witch? The absolute meanest most corrupt witch of them all?
      GO USADA!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
      • John

        NO BILL,

        And your proof is WHAT?
        Oh......you don't have any!!!!
        Didn't think so.

        Come back when you have proof or shut up!

        August 25, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  42. Bob

    More than a half century ago in Ann Arbor Michigan, I've read that Jesse Owens had to overcome back pain prior to competing in a track meet where he went on to set numerous world records. I've also read that Jesse Owens was a smoker. By today's standards the circumstances of his accomplishments could warrant an investigation. But isn't it possible that Jesse Owens was simply well ahead of his time compared to his peers?

    Enough is enough! Other than hearsay (contrary to some of the comments above) even the retroactive blood testing has not revealed anything that hundreds of previous tests did not reveal. Leave the past in the rearview mirror. This is a man who is not even competing. Continuing this discussion is simply giving competitive cycling a black eye.

    Perhaps we should concentrate on the incredible social good being done by Mr. Armstrong instead of the 'legitimacy' of his wins. Just like Jesse Owens, Lance Armstrong is a good man who is physically & mentally gifted and ahead of his time. His move to give up the fight is brilliant so he can get on with his life, while letting bureaucrats of each association fight over jusidictional legitimacy.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  43. D'Artagnon77

    This flies in the face of everything that the US is about. The USADA has determined Lance Armstrong is guilty until proven innocent. If the USADA had any concrete proof Lance Armstrong cheated, they would have produced it a long time ago, and shown he was a cheater beyond contestation...they don't have that proof. What the USADA has are statements from a few other proven cheaters (with nothing else to lose) who have agreed to testify against Lance Armstrong. If the USADA has anything on Lance Armstrong, produce it, or shut the hell up. Furthermore, the USADA does not have the authority to strip Armstrong of his Tour titles, all they can do is make the recommendation. Hopefully, the organizers of the Tour (who have tested Armstrong hundreds of times) will dismiss the USADA recommendations and Armstrong will hold on to the titles he won...D'

    August 25, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Fred Jones

      The USADA is a joke. Armstrong has passed every drug test given to him. The Tour De France considers him Champion. The USADA reminds of those little nazi homeowners associations. They think they are gods. I hope Armstrong challenges their authority in federal court and takes it all the way to the US Supreme Court. I also hope he takes the USADA to the cleaners financially.

      Lance Armstrong is a hero to cancer fighters, survivors and their families everywhere. He gives us all hope that life isn't over after a diagnosis.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
      • John

        I'm with you on this Fred. I'll donate to his defense fund just so I can see this pseudo-governmental agency get taken down. They have just ruined American cycling! They are only trying to make a name for themselves and to justify their existence. They are a useless organization.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • lmcgeko

      I think you have phrased it well. They have not produced a smoking gun, innuendo doesn't make a person guilty – truth and fact does. This style of behavior goes to the medieval times where a woman could be called a witch – just because and put on trial at her expenses with the forgone conclusion that she was going to be burnt at the stake.

      I think we should all send a mail to athleteexpress@usada.org and ask them to prove it. I have done so.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • peggle

      exactly

      August 25, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Steven Norton

      This is nothing more than the international sports communities jealousy that yet another AMERICAN is the best at what foreigners believed they were the best at but failed UTTERLY! You cant beat the US and thats all their is to it, be it cycling, swimming, or gymnastics. Face it we have always been and still are the BEST!!! You have no proof of wrong doing so you will fabricate whatever you can. GO Uninted States of America!!!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Ian

        You're an idiot.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
      • gakster

        And I bet you wish that the GOP had found someone even MORE ignorant, reactionary, and simple-minded than Mitt Romney to run for the presidency.

        August 25, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Wes Scott

    If it was "pretty much impossible" for Lance to ride as fast as he did without taking PEDs, then how would it have been possible for any other rider to have been anywhere close to him at any time other than the starting line? The jealousy and inability to accept defeat by those who envy Lance is unfathomable. In the eyes of the world Lance is, and always will be, THE Champion of cycling. What does it say about those sissies who could not compete and who must try to get a title by disqualifying somebody whom they could never beat in competition? Maybe if the rest of those clowns had trained harder they would have been a little faster.

    They "retroactively" looked at his blood samples and found traces of PEDs? Gimme a break! This smacks of doping his blood after the fact. Why was he always able to test clean in the original testing he endured?

    August 25, 2012 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Fred Jones

      It was pretty much impossible for Secretariat to dominate horse racing the way he did. But when Secretariate passed away, they discovered his heart was twice the size of other horses. Your post reminds me of the people who burned witches at the state in Salem Massachussetts because a bunch of stupid kids blamed the "witches" for their bad behavior.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
  45. Robin

    US...ADA. Really? What happened to innocent until *proven* guilty?

    August 25, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
    • TE

      Blame Armstrong for that. By quitting on the process that he signed off on when he signed his first pro contract, he has delayed the proof from being day lighted (clever move on his part, but not a long term solution for him). Proof and the truth will come out soon enough if Bruyneel chooses to go to arbitration.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Bradly

      I like how people are talking about who the cyclist are today and dont know and you know what I havent followed cycling since Armstrong left. Also I dont give a ratts ass about cycling. Boring. Now the UFC(Also Strikeforce&Bellator) in the other hand has had it dopers and they have been caught, but what a better show of human performace than cycling. But, just like in the cycling world, the UFC has dopers that get away with it too. But, not a 700 test negitive streak. Although MMA fighters dont fight as often as bikers race. Most MMA fighters put in 3-4 fights a year and are tested in some states the same way the Olympics test.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  46. Robin

    It Armstrong erred it is over now.He is a great athlete and we cannot forget that or let our children forget it, you do not take a man's works away because he chose the wrong path once or even twice. Let him have a life and appreciate his achievements. Are we becoming a people that doubt every achievement we see?

    August 25, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • TE

      Ridiculous. He doped throughout his career, not "once or twice", and coerced others to do the same. What achievements?! A goal realized through cheating is no achievement. To claim that we should just move on because his cheating took place a few years ago is crazy. The truth needs to be recognized in order for the sport to move forward.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • lmcgeko

        TE – you say this because?

        August 25, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  47. liz

    I think my life will be complete and full even without Mr. Armstrong and what he did or didn't do. (aka: I really don't give a cr@p).

    August 25, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Yet here you are, not only reading this article but commenting on it. Great way to substantiate that you don't give a c$%p.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • InMyHappyPlace

      What happens when this type of witch hunt becomes the norm. You do Awesome in college with better grades than anyone ever came close to. Has to be some sort of enhancement drug. Or you out perform anything your employer has ever seen, so the insurance company wants to start drug tests. The implications of guilty without any proof is something this country has decided is not the way we do business. This is a change to that.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
  48. UncleM

    1. Most likely Lance was using EPO
    2. Most likely so were his major adversaries
    3. Those who got caught screwed up
    4. He probably was the best when he won 7 tours

    This whole process is pointless. Declare an amnesty and just clean up going forward.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
    • denany

      well said. people unfortunately think armstrong is a self-righteous arse-hole.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
      • InMyHappyPlace

        Some of us call that being dedicated and determined in his goals. People that don't appreciate that are the ones that would choose to call him names.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • MS

      I totally agree with you. Let the past go and move on, no one can make cycling of the past clean, let's focus on a clean peloton today!

      August 25, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  49. Adam

    Delusional is the perfect word to describe Armstrong's supporters at this juncture.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Wes Scott

      Delusional is the perfect word to describe anybody who says another rider could have been anywhere close to Lance if Lance had been doping. How would it be possible that Lance could not achieve what he did without PEDs, yet another rider could? Your statement is ridiculous and delusional. You are jealous of Lance's accomplishments.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
      • gakster

        What it is with all of this "jealousy" garbage? Why would anybody in their right mind be jealous of a dimwit like Armstrong?

        August 25, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
  50. MikeS

    I know for a fact that Lance would often take one of the most useful performance enhancing drugs – carbohydrates. Those gave him a definite advantage in endurance over those who didn't take them.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  51. DarqueSide

    Those cyclists who say 'good riddance' are riding on Lance's shoulders whether they acknowledge it or not! He ignited American professional cycling like NO OTHER and they owe him a debt of gratitude. Good luck to the rest of the pack... I doubt any of these guys will become known, let alone a LEGEND.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
    • sopenco

      You're right. Nobody cared about cycling before LA, and after him, guess what – a new Dark Age begins. I for one can't even name another cyclist, and after the way the USADA went after him over a freaking YEAR after the fact, yeah, I'm pretty disenchanted with the whole thing. It infuriates me that something as unimportant as the USADA is funded by taxpayer dollars. What a total crock.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
      • antonio

        The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is a non-profit, non-governmental organization

        August 25, 2012 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  52. twoplyfour

    Age 13 (1983) 1st IronKids Triathlon [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 15 (1985) 2nd Ironkids Triathlon National Championship [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 17 (1987) 1st Texas State Triathlon Championship [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 19 (1989) 1st National Championship Sprint Triathlon [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 21 (1991) Junior National Road Race Cycling Champion [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 22 (1992) 1st Overall Fitchburg-Longsjo Cycling Classic [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]
    Age 23 (1993) World Road Race Cycling Champion; US National Road Race Cycling Champion [pretty much would have been impossible without drug enhancement]

    August 25, 2012 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      You're right. Great investigation there. Roger Bannister must have been doping when he ran the four-minute mile because that we pretty much impossible at that time as well.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
      • angela

        Why is everyone so hell bent on destroying our american heros?

        August 25, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • personman123

      Yep, he's pretty much been kicking tail for a LONG time. Isn't the hallmark of a PED user a rapid, but relatively short lived, increase in performance?

      August 25, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Madmatt

      Great work....at age 13, he would have had enough wherewithal, knowledge, and funding to start 'doping'. Its easy to be a hater, but at least back up accusations with some facts.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
      • cyclomat

        You don't understand sarcasm, do you?

        August 25, 2012 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
    • spock

      Hard to argue with such facts and logic.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • thebard

      So it's pretty much impossible to win anything without drug enhancement? How about if you finish second?

      August 25, 2012 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      And your proof is Two Ply?
      You're treading on the thin ice of a defamation lawsuit here.
      Making these types of accusations without proof!

      August 25, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  53. ray

    I don't beleive Armstrong was using PED.... he was constantly tested and never a positive...If it was possible to use PED and avoid detection then the other cyclists who WERE caught obviously would have done what Armstrong's detractors said Armstrong did. As for other competitors saying "good riddance" that's just a product of their shortcomings...Since they can't perform at his level they're just whinning.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  54. WayneM

    I do know that Armstrong had cancer. I also know that EPO was for years a standard adjunct given to most, if not all, cancer patients. Should he have retired from competition because he was being treated for cancer?

    August 25, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  55. pelforth

    Cheater, cheater, bike on fire...

    August 25, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
    • A Comment

      Sine you're a moron... I'll help you out....
      Liar Liar... Bike on Fire
      Cheater Cheater... Bicycle Eater?

      Understand your mistake now?

      You should probably refrain from commenting. Have a great weekend!

      August 25, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  56. Drew

    "Doping" is a relative term. Doping in 2012 means something vastly different than doping in 1994. Used to be that there was some common sense given to what was a banned substance. Now, if you so much as breath in the wrong direction, eat the wrong kind of lettuce or take a couple sips of the wrong energy drink you are labeled a cheater for life.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  57. personman123

    From USADA's own website:
    "USADA is still an evolving organization, and its history is still being written."

    Seems to me like pinning a "guilty" tag on Lance goes a long way toward writing some nice history. I say "pinning" because obviously they couldn't catch him in the act. Now, if the rumored 2001 Tour of Switzerland positive test coverup is, well, uncovered, I take it all back.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      Doping can mean: I had an Oxycontin to manage my pain after wasting the rest of the competition in France.
      Doping can mean: I drank a Mountain Dew too close to competition.
      Doping can mean: I had a stuffy nose, so I popped a Sudafed.

      Everything reasonable is doping today. What was reasonable 20 years ago is now being written into the rule book so that nearly all athletes will be labeled as cheaters. Too bad we can't take samples from LeMond or the other greats of yesteryear...they probably cheated by having a Diet Coke before competition...the jerks...

      August 25, 2012 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
  58. mamselle

    What a sad power has the green eyed monster of jealousy

    August 25, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  59. willard

    I do drug screenng in my business. He was tested repeatedly and the most thorough protocols were followed to determine if he had been using banned substances. Just show me the positive results from these tests and I will find the accusations credible. Not just higher red blood counts which can be ascribed to his cancer treatment and recovery. He was tested so often and I have never seen any credible evidence.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  60. ruemorgue

    Guilty or not, it was and *is* a witch hunt. Give zealots power and they will weild it like Thor and his Hammer.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  61. T. Lee

    "Good Riddance" ????

    BUNCH OF SORE LOSERS !!!

    Even with the best competitors were doping themselves – THEY COULDN'T BEAT HIM !!!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      Absolutely. While everyone else was getting caught, Lance was passing drug tests and passing them on the course. The USADA ought to paying him to be their spokesperson.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  62. Dan

    Does anyone truly believe that ANY of those riders weren't doped? Lance didn't create these drugs himself – he was told about them by other people. If he knew about undetectable steroids every rider did. His choices were simple: 1) dope like everyone else so as to level the playing field; 2) don't dope like everyone else and lose to the dopers. The only reason everyone is going after Lance is because he won. If he'd have lost no one would have cared. The people who finished 2nd to him and are now being made the winners are just as dirty but won't be prosecuted because they didn't win 7 times. They can DQ Lance and whoever else they want, but no matter what they do, the person they consider to be the winner is really just the fastest doper who they chose not to go after.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  63. Drew

    Cycling will never be "clean", but if Lance tested negative, then why this about-face by the agency? It's ridiculous.

    On another front, does anyone know who the most recent Tour champion is? Exactly. Bite the hand that feeds you and you get burned. No one cares about cycling anymore and it doesn't matter what faux punishment they lay on to a retired cyclist, he's still the best ever and no one will be able to change that history.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Dubhly

      kinda what i thought....I know Lance Armstrongs name....but who are the others? I do not have a clue and frankly do not care. From what i have seen in the media, the rest were dopers who gave up his name to clear theirs so they could race again or get his old awards. Yeah they have something to be proud of now...hey i ratted out someone and got his trophy award, maybe it should now be known as the Golden Rodent race and award since you do not actually have to beat the guy that did win it, just throw him under the bus. Viva la Tour le Rat!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  64. rock

    There is only speculation that he doped. Because he doesn't want to spend his time and resources fight the allegations he is guilty? I don't think so. One of the reasons he was great was because Lance Armstrong built a perfect cycling body from scratch. He had cancer, was on chemo, which reduced his body to nothing, and he designed his body for what he wanted to do with it. For most people that would be a setback. Foe Lance it was an opportunity. This IS a witchhunt.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  65. Michael Gout

    I'm OK with USADA and society for pursuing Lance Armstrong due to his superhuman feats that could only be accomplished with performance enhancing drugs. That is as long as we pursue Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Emmitt Smith, Michael Phelps, and every other athlete that reached a pinnacle that no other has reached.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
    • T. Lee

      Are you also "o.k." with a "quasi-governemtal agency" that was created in 2000 thus not around with Armstrong was winning and passing EVERY test thrown at him legitimately and by the horde of jealous enemies ??

      Are you also "o.k." that the USADA __cannot guarantee the chain of custody__ of those samples they "tested"?? That means they cannot guarantee they were not tampered with and/or were stored correcdtly so as to maintain sterile ??

      Are you also "o.k." that Armnstrong has been stripped of his titles wihthout the USADA having to PROVE their claimes in a court of law – i.e. "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" !!

      You're o.k. with all that going down?? Then you are just as bad as the losers and the USADA !!!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Jesterx212

        Are YOU ok the arbitration process Armstrong declined involved him picking his own arbitrator, the USADA picks their own arbitrator, and the two picked arbitrators pick a third? That sounds like a fair process to me. If ones rep means anything to them, why would they not go through that process?

        August 25, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Nicholas D

        Bravo T! Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Compromised samples? Quasi-governmental agency? Lance is either the greatest cycler or cheater on the planet. Give it a rest jealous competitors and desk bound bureaucrats. The most tested athlete in the history of any sport, ever. Release the truth, you dope sniffers. Why don't you drug obsessed desk jockeys try riding the Alpe D' Huez. Then call Frankie and Floyd and believe everything they say. Do the drug-o-crats now retro test the new winners? No one cares about you sour grape racers and haters, Lance will always be the champ no matter how many lies you dope-chasers fall for.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Wes Scott

        I support Lance and I think the USADA was/is on a witch hunt, but you obviously do not understand the first thing about "innocent until proven guilty", which applies ONLY in criminal courts of the US federal, state or local governments. There is no presumption of innocence in most of the world. It is only codified in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Trying to tie it to this situation is as ridiculous as the false claims against Lance.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
    • DrexlSpivey

      Difference is that the athletes that you mentioned other than Phelps would not have a tangible advantage over the competition by doping.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
  66. Bobo

    You need to understand, his tests passed when they were taken. With improved testing technologies, they have gone back and tested his old samples and it shows he was doping. I don't understand all of the crazies here saying he didn't dope.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
    • michaelw777

      I'm not familiar with this, not being a fan of the sport. However, if this is the case, and they are retroactively testing his samples with improved equipment and procedures – then the test needs to be applied to everyone in all the races, not just Lance Armstrong. Justice – if that is what this is – needs to be equally applied.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  67. fingers

    I say let ALL athletes use steroids. I want the best that MEDICINE can produce.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  68. argildagor

    To anyone who doubts the claims perhaps you should google Michael Ashendens article in NC Velocity on EPO doping – an expert on the matter – he discusses how ineffective doping tests were just 10 years ago and makes specific reference to Lance Armstrong. The article was written in 2009. If you *want* to believe that he is innocent though that's your choice.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  69. Heavensdevil

    People believe GWB was a bad President. Others believe BHO is a bad President. Everyone has an opinion. In my opinion, Lance Armstrong, albeit a good person to some people, cheated based on the comments of his fellow teammates and competitors, even as he passed all the drug tests along the way. It is obvious many athletes have found a way in one form or another to 'beat' the test(s), and perhaps with a wink here and a wink there, he just became too big to fail?

    August 25, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  70. Mike

    In my opinion this is an example of cheaters wanting to take someone else down with them; cheaters like Floyd Landis etc. Lance passed hundreds of drug tests including random ones. I also don't believe testing blood that is over 13 years old would have accurate results. There was nothing superhuman about Lance Armstrong. He won his tours by being better in the mountains than other riders. In the flats he didn't do as well. If he was truly superhuman he would have won every heat, every time trial etc, but he didn't. He did enough to win the tour and stay ahead of his rivals. This chasing after people after they have retired needs to end. And, just because he has had enough and won't fight it any longer doesn't mean he is admitting guilt. I think I'd give up to if I had been dogged this long by every concievable agency and jealous cyclist. I don't blame him one bit for putting this behind him, because it was pretty obvious they stacked the deck against him and he was not going to win no matter what. Sad day for sports in my opinion.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  71. Kevin

    Of course he doped, they all did. None of that changes his achievements, Lance was a total beast and will always be my hero. Strip of him of his jerseys, and who do you give them to? The Kaiser? Are you kidding me? Honestly I don't understand the hunt and I hope the UCI ignores the whole thing.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
  72. Tom

    Who cares, really? It's just people riding bikes. It isn't like it really matters.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Wait until you, or someone you actually DO care about gets cancer. Then suddenly he and his foundation will be your best friend.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  73. Lew

    I saw him 1988 in triathlons, which I raced, and this May in Haines city Fla I stood on the corner and watched him run 13.1 miles at a 6 mile per pace, at age 40 and win that race, so how and why, how can he do 4 half ironman races and not get tested, HE WAS TESTED THIS YEAR WHILE HE RACED, IN THOSE WTC EVENTS, so WHY cant they look at those 4 half ironman races and check him, instead of going back in time.

    Landis and Hamiton got busted as TEAM LEADERS ON OTHER TEAMS, I will only believe he doped when he says he did.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
  74. Pat

    You say what he did was impossible, but no one has ever had his bio stats, the man could process lactic acid like no one else, his heart and lungs were measured to show he was super human. Look at just 2 days ago with Jen, you would have said early in the day that what he did was impossible as well. There are driven people, to do good, excel, not like you, driven to try to degrade another. Look at Lance's time spent now with his cancer Livestrong, the man is still doing triathlons. You couldn't do his workout schedule that he's doing now. Go back in time and see his workout schedule for the tour, NO ONE was doing that much training, NO ONE. So go climb back under your rock....

    August 25, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
    • cb

      News Flash People – He had testicular cancer which is often caused by long term use of STEROIDS !

      August 25, 2012 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Obvious

      Look at the podium positions in all of those Tour de France. Lance was beating the BEST DOPERS IN THE WORLD; Most of his rivals were banned/sanctioned for doping. And you say Lance did it by riding clean? No way. Doping was the culture of the peloton all those years. He did it because the normalization of deviance was pervasive and it wasn't considered abnormal to take performance enhancers. To be competitive, you had to do "whatever it takes." He should have just come clean and stated it that way... instead he clings to what most people know is illogical. George Hincapie's testimony would have been the final nail... no doubt about it. Team Lance saw the outcome and cleverly dodged it with this "i'm tired of fighting defense." He has money, no reason to quit if there is nothing to hide. Now his 7 tours and his reputation are certainly tarnished.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  75. Nik

    During the Salem Witch Trials, morons tried and convicted innocent people without probable cause. Similarly, there is little to no evidence to strip Lance of his achievements. "The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it". Stop believing in lies.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  76. Watching You

    Ok, now for all of you negative people, show me any evidence that he was doping. I mean really, show not only me but the world that he was doping. He passed every dope test they gave him. Those who claim to have seen him doping have no proof, they just say I saw him. Why would they say that, because they are jealous of him, or they have been offered a deal to get out of their own doping charges. Or they will get the medel or price if he gets banned and loses all of his wins. Come on, get real, this is the land of innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because of some which hunt. Hell even the government, who got bonds and others says there is not enough evidence to charge him. But yet you sit in your chair and say he should be banned for ever. If this is the kind of people that lives in the world we are in deep trouble. Oh wait, it is the kind of people that live in the world and we are in deep trouble!

    August 25, 2012 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Watching You

      Yea I know, there are typing errors, you don't have to leave 27 replies to point it out.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:47 am | Report abuse |
  77. Darren

    Back in the Puritan days, the Church courts had a test to determine whether you were a Witch. They would bind and gag the suspect, put them in a sack and throw them in the water. If they float, they were a witch and would be burned at the stake, if they sank and drown, they were innocent. Lance faced a similar trial. The outcome was pre-determined by a publicity hungry head of an organization which is trying to assert its control over sports it has no say in. Even the Federal courts in rejecting the lawsuit on the bases of jurisdiction made the statement that there was considerable impropriety in the USADA investigation. Lance simply had an option the accused witches did not. He simply refused co continue playing that game.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
  78. Motoman

    It could be argued Lance has done more for bicycling then anyone before him. (Blood doping not included). If the UCI does take away his 7 medals perhaps we will finally see the evidence against him which would go a long way toward putting this behind us.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:44 am | Report abuse |
  79. Geoge

    His blood showing epo could easily be attributed to his fight against cancer. Many of the cancer drugs they would have used would indiscriminately kill all cells, not just cancer cells. They often give epo drugs when red blood cell levels get low during treatment, this is very common. Epo in his blood is no smoking gun.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
  80. akj1inc

    I got news for you all, they ALL did some kind enhancements. So the playing field was even. And admit to YOURSELF you wish it you were a 7 time champ. of ANYTHING!!!

    August 25, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
  81. Mattyj

    The USADA has no jurisdiction over his Tour de France titles. This is a witch hunt pure and simple. Lance Armstrong is the man.

    And these other cyclists, a bunch of jealous prima donnas who only look out for #1. Lance has a foundation that helps to cure cancer. How about you? Thought so. Haters gonna hate.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
  82. dr

    Contributions to his charity went up after the USADA decision and his sponsors all expressed support. His organization has done more then any other athlete run group. This whole process was a waste of time. He is retired, who cares.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
  83. Kevin

    what if his increased red cell count shown to be "consistent with EPO/transfusion use" is actually because he is genetically different? What if Lance really is superhuman? We would have exactly the evidence we see here.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
  84. Jo

    An innocent man does not walk away from defending himself. Especially given the high stakes. Never could stand the guy, personally. Deserted his family for Cheryl Crow. Good riddance indeed.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Watching You

      OMG, are you nuts, he has been defending himself for years. This witch hunt has been going on for ever and he passed every test they gave him. Let someone come after you for that long, it gets tiresome and life consuming. I for one would have walked away from it a long time ago. And I have a feeling you would have gave up even faster. He just wants to get on with his life, and if this is what he has to do to reach that goal, then let him do it. With out your uniformed accusations!

      August 25, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
    • REB

      Well Jo, you have truly amazed me. You are obviously the smartest person that you know. But in reality, you are a complete idiot!!!!! You have no facts, no basis for your comments, and want to get on here and just rattle on about your personal thoughts and opinions. Get some facts together and maybe you can post an intelligent post. The man passed every test that he was asked to take and passed them all. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY should give a shred of credibility to 13 year old blood that they say is tainted. As said in above posts, the cancer drugs that Mr. Armstrong took over the last few years can give the same result that they are talking about. Give me a break here. Give Lance the credit he deserves for what he has done with his life and leave him the hell alone. He is truly a GREAT PERSON!!!!!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  85. Chris

    Yeah he cheated, just better than all the other loser cycling cheaters. Cycling is s douche sport.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
    • REB

      Um, how do you know he cheated????? Were you there and privy to those tests Chris????? No you weren't, so shut the hell up unless you can come up with an intelligent post!!!!!!! IDIOTS

      August 25, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  86. Steve Chenoweth

    I followed Lances stunning bicycling career through all seven TTF victories, watching bicycling history be made along with the rest of the world. Lance was blessed with cardio vascular capabilities that most people do not have, and he leveraged that to world record bicycling status. It's a crying shame that jealous hearsay, years after the fact, can come in and taint such an amazing comeback (from a cancer deathbed, none the less).

    August 25, 2012 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
  87. Stan

    As Tyler Hamilton said, every rider in the Tour is cheating. If they weren't, there's no way that they could even compete at that level. If they're all cheating, I'd say the playing field is pretty level.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Darren

      Stupid comment to say "I couldn't compete without cheating so anyone who beats me MUST be a cheater." Sounds a little arrogant and self serving on the other riders part.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
  88. Moose

    He was used as a scape goat and subjected to a witch hunt the only people that should be on trial is the people that were going after him. I saw Live Strong and Ride Long Lance.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
    • One Dog Mama

      Witch hunt pure and simple.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
  89. Brad

    Lance would have faced 12 witnesses that say he cheated, or he helped them cheat. Why didn't Lance have witnesses of his own? Why would he need them if his 500+ passed tests were like individiual witnesses ?
    Should the Pittsburgh Steelers lose their 4 World Championship Superbowls from the 1970's because they admitted to using class C drugs (anabolic steroids) which the NFL did not test for at the time, BUT, Class C were illegal because there was/is no prescription paper trail?

    August 25, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  90. Steve

    Seriously the guy is amazing. To single him out when you know he wasn't the only one doping a little unfair. As far as I'm concerned he is and always will be a hero. He shows more class than 90% of professional athletes and he did more for the sport than anyone wil ever give him credit for and that should be considered. He made a mistake and should admit it openly but there is far more to this individual than this.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  91. Commenter

    His ability to come back from cancer and cycle amongst the best could also be deemed "super human." Armstrong hasn't admitted guilt, and no governing body has convicted him. There appears to be evidence that can either lean towards him juicing or towards him being clean. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? With all the great things that he's done, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until conclusive evidence shows otherwise. Isn't that a reasonable thing to do?

    August 25, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  92. Whitey

    True or not there is some suggestion of a witch hunt. Why are they going after an athlete 18 years later? Makes no sense to me, they should be spending their money on improving testing to assure that today's athlete's cannot beat the test. Tygart looks like a guy who never was any good at anuthing and takes pleasure in bringing down the jocks!

    August 25, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  93. JC

    “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement."

    Well, that's certainly objective and conclusive. Guilty until proven innocent.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
  94. mag

    He deserves more than a lifetime ban if more was possible. This is no super human. I always wondered whether enhancing drugs may have had something to do with his cancer. What has always been crystal cleat is that he could not have achieved what his ardent supporters believe without intervention. That intervention indeed had to have been drugs. Any company that continues to use him as a model and to represent them or their products should lbe held accountable for portraying such a negative image. This is par for the course.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Albert

      Now how do you suppose World Records are beaten, are you suggesting that that everyone that accomplishes something faster than the last guy is on some kind of drug? Get off the computer Mag and get back in the Kitchen

      August 25, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • robert

      And you know all this how? What qualifies you, or any of us, to look down our moral noses at Lance. There ARE supermen and superwomen. People whose abilities reside in the outlies of statistical probability. I have personally witnessed feats of strength and endurance I would previously have thought impossible. Facta non verba.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  95. Dan

    Most in the cycling world have always questioned his performance. The fact that he still doesn't admit what he's done in the face of so much evidence shows how lacking he is in character. I hope he gets sued into the stone age by his former sponsors.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
  96. John

    It is a complete joke. If they had something on him it should have happened at the end of that race year. Not years later.. The sport is forever flawed and will lose any fans it did have. I would have never watched one if it wasn't for him and for sure will never waste my time doing so again. Lance is and always will be a seven time Champ!

    August 25, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
  97. sheila

    He does deserve a lifetime ban. He cheated all those other cyclists he competed against. He is a fraud.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Whitey

      Most of the other cyclists they would give his titles to have since been convicted of doping themselves! So don't feel sorry for them.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Sam

        If he loses his titles does that mean that 2nd place for all those races are now the title holders. If so, all of their samples should be retested as well, if there are any, because Lance's drug testing back then didn't reveal anything. If there were no tests for 2nd spot then where does that leave the credibility of the winners of the previous races? The drug testing organization has something to answer for themselves.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Pat

      You do understand that French cycling hated him, they tested him like no one else. You don't know anything about the man, but you throw this out. I don't know anything about you, so I'll do the same and say you are cowardly and probably don't excel at anything and therefore are just jealous, Go crawl back under a rock, and leave the world alone.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob Loblaw

      "All those other cyclists" were doped too. So now Travis Tygart gets on the podium and says he's 'sad for cycling but justice had to be done,' and then hands Lance's titles over to other dopers? Brilliant. We can't clean up the sport retroactively. As Jens said, we draw a line and move forward. This was a complete waste of resources.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
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