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Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong
The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Thursday it will strip Lance Armstrong of seven Tour de France titles and ban the cyclist for life.
August 24th, 2012
09:08 PM ET

Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

(CNN) - The reaction to Lance Armstrong’s announcement that he would no longer fight doping allegations was about as fast as his record setting winning times at the Tour de France. Armstrong may be stripped of every title he ever won and faces being banned from all competition for the rest of his life.

Andy Shen is a writer for the cycling website, NY Velocity, and a competitive cyclist here in New York:

[1:20] “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement. There’s been evidence of his doping. They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them… There’s so much evidence over time that you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean.”

Armstrong’s remaining supporters still believe he’s the victim of a witch hunt. They claim his achievements are the result of superhuman capabilities. Shen sees a silver lining in this:

[3:12] "Among competitive cyclists, the hope is that as the truth comes out the sport will be able to clean itself up and face its past. And, you know, it’s pretty much acknowledged that the sport is cleaner than it ever has been."

In saying that he was finished with this "nonsense" and would no longer address the issue, Armstrong still did not admit any wrongdoing. He may still claim innocence, but to many in the cycling world, it was as good as an admission of guilt.

What do you think?  Does Armstrong deserve a lifetime ban?  Ring in with your thoughts in the comment section below.

soundoff (1,207 Responses)
  1. Dark Horse

    Anybody objective with a brain, who followed the sport of cycling, always knew he was doping. The saddest part of this, to me, is the willful blindness of the people who still support him. It's a phenomenon of group psychology, that people will support "their guy" even when he is wrong. This phenomenon explains social cliques, politics, wars, resource use, etc., etc., etc.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • RL

      Please don't try to impress just because you read some psychology text and now think you have all the answers. All the USADA can do is state that they have evidence and most of it is simply the word of other cyclists that supposedly have first hand knowledge. If it was that important to those "cyclists" they should have come forward then, not wait for 8+ years to come forward. Tthese are cyclists who were never able to make the grade against true talent and also teamates with sour grapes attitudes because they feel they never got any othe the spotlight. They knew going in what their job was if they didn't want to accept that they should've gone somewhere else. To make an analogy, they are no better for not coming forward when they alledge this was ocurring, than the Penn State VP, Athletic director and the graduate student turned assistant coach. They knew or alledged something was going on and failed to make sure something was done about it. This includes the CEO of the USADA, if he knew and has let it go on this long maybe he was just trying to protect the sport of cycling. But guess what it got away from him and it just blew up in his face.

      August 25, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Jules

    Only God and Lance know the truth!!!!!!!

    August 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Vidikron

    I don't know if Lance used PEDs or not. Or if he did to what degree. But I do know that cycling is probably the dirtiest sport in the world as far as PEDs go and this was especially true at the time Lance was competing. Even if he did use PEDs he was still the best cyclist in the world because he simply beat out entire fields of cheaters.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Lanceisafraud

    Now Lance can stop peeing in bottles, join the US Military, and start peeing on dead bodies!

    August 25, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Doc1

    I support you Lance. You're the man. Screw the U.S. Doping agency!

    August 25, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Michael Erving

    Armstrong is a fraud. Just like the crap Wall Street sells to investors, and policies politicians promote. It's time America woke up and started to look at things that are "real" instead of b.s.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  7. edco

    Don't like the USADA message. Kill the mesenger. You Lance-o-philes are like lemmings or munchkins. Even after Todo
    pulled the curtain back in OZ those Munchkins still believed in the wizzard. USADA not only charged Lance with cheating they charged his doctor Dr. Michaele Ferrari (male). Ferrari is protesting his lifetime ban and is attending a hearing to defend himself. End result: the evidence will be read aloud, recorded, rebutted, refuted, examined, cross examined as it should.
    I hope there is a public disclosure of the hearing minutes. I don't know the facts. Many people writing posts here seem to know facts about the evidence being false. The chips will fall. Examine the Tyler Hamilton dress rehearsal, he was stripped of Olympic Gold, and his 2004 Tour de France finish. After the disciplinary action he emphatically admitted to being "dirty". Floyd Landis, same story. Lance not attending the hearing is a bigger no no than all you no government promoters are aware. In NASCAR when you win the Daytona 500, the track stewards always check you car to make sure you ran with the restrictor plate. Lance being a "no-show" is like locking the hood and telling NASCAR to shove off.
    What would happen? not only is your Daytona win vacated, you won't run in Nascar again [period] How did the fella posting down the page propose to fix the USADA, (with a government agency). You have to have standards or nothing is legitimate. Let me relate somethings learned from reading detailed news reports. USADA cannot strip the 7 Tour de Fr titles. That is up to World ADA and ICF. They are independent of each other. Lance Armstrong is a George W. Bush Austin Texas Republican, he appeared in media ads for "W" in 2004. Where does this 'liberal' stuff come from?
    Lance stuffing the hearing is a miscalculation. Ferrari is attending the hearing, the evidence gets exposed and weighed. If Ferrari is exonerated so is Lance. You Lance-o-philes dance. If Ferrari goes down and his lifetime ban is upheld. You Lance-o-philes turn into munchkins and hail the mighty Wizzard and the USADA should be banned by another agency-taken to federal court-burned at the stake. Right? You have to have standards in sport. In Nascar they will tear down the whole car if they suspect you are running banned hardware. You cannot autopsy an athletes body. Lance has tested positive for steroid (cortisone) in 2001 and for EPO in another year. They gave him a waiver and let him race provisionally. From news reports: why so long? it took over 5 years to resolve the jurisdictional issues between USADA, WADA, and ICF. Regardless the lab work is accurate and a permanent record, time does not negate the results. Lance tests are not all in his favor. PBS: Charlie Rose to Lance " have you ever used PED?", Lance to Charlie Rose "I have never failed a drug test" and he has never answered the question. Time will tell. Lance is not happy that Dr. Ferrari is attending his hearing over the lifetime ban. Don't go away munchkins, the movie ain't over.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  8. dike

    this is what happens if you are way better than the rest... Losers win this time.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Pat C

    He was probably fed up with all the hounding and hostility. The guy survived cancer, and understandably realizes that life it too short for this kind of nonsense. Leave him alone. He is an amazing man if just for the money he raised for curing cancer.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Padre Pio

    I've got a great idea for you to improve your image USADA – why don't you just side with the French in trying to tear down an American icon.

    Yeah....thats the ticket!

    August 25, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  11. T

    So this writer quotes one person who doesnt like Lance and then comes up with the title 'cyclists"

    August 25, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chuck Shell

      Exactly!

      August 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Puzzled Canadian

    There was Senator McCarthy, J Edger Hoover and now Travis Tygart. What is it down there in the “Land of the Free” that continuously allows for the elevation of these powerful forces to rule outside the law.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Sunrays

    It is a sad story. I feel lots sympathy for Lance. He has been an inspiration to lots of people not only because he was such a great cyclist, but also he is a cancer survival. Best Wishes to Mr. Lance Armstrong.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Charles

    If you had 100 people that said he doped, you'd still believe Lance. Your mind is made up no what the evidence.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Duane

    What is happening to this country when an attorney like Travis Tygart can play prosecutor, Jury and Judge. Lance Armstrong is an American hero. He worked very hard to achieve his goals. Travis Tygart is a nobody looking to make a name for himself. I think a defamation of character law suit should be slapped against Travis Tygart and the USADA.

    August 25, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian Ford

      I, for one, have always believed that Armstrong doped. However, they all did . . . that was the culture of the sport. I support Lance even tho I believe he doped. I support him because I have always believed that the USADA uses unfair practices and a kangaroo court to railroad people and ruin their lives.

      August 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Juan Tanamo

    It has not been a good couple of days for guys named Armstrong....

    August 25, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • OneTwo

      There are worse things than Death. Mostly life. Just ask Lance. R.I.P. Neil

      August 25, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  17. LBRider

    I say dope more! Those races back in the day were really exciting. I want to see lungs pop out and stuff.
    But on another note people don't realize that the Tour de France and cycling in general is thee most difficult sport on the planet. Just to win one tour doped or not is a major feat. I still think Lance is a great guy and I support him 100% doped or not. He has helped more people than our Presidents have in the last 30 years so give him the respect he has coming for that at least. He will always be a seven time tour champ doped or not. As everyone else doped he just did it better:)

    August 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Bike rider

    If we can not beat you we will break you financially

    August 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  19. tornadoosu

    I hate people on bikes because they think they own the road and who cares about stop signs. On this issue tho I think Lance is innocent until proven guilty. No test has shown up to prove him guilty. Who the hell is the agency anyway?

    August 25, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian Ford

      I hate car people who hate cyclists, because they think THEY own the road and I always see car people rolling stop signs too! Cyclists pay the same taxes (+ some in certain states), we have as much right to be there as auto motorists do.

      August 25, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Michael Brown

    This was a witch hunt. He was fed up with the YEARS of accusations and now because he isn't willing to fight anymore, he's guilty? Please. I think it's sad that he NEVER failed a test and he is still going to be punished. This sets a HORRIBLE precedent for the future. Accusations now means a person is guilty regardless of whether they are innocent or not. Good job folks.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  21. The Scoundrel

    What is the US gov't doing meddling in the entertainment industry? The NBA, PGA, NFL, UCI etc etc are responsible for managing their respective entertainment/marketing industries. Don't spend MY TAX DOLLARS on such activity!
    Lance played within the rules at the time.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Beam48

    I saw the interview with one (or maybe the only) witness on the news the other day. When he answered he saw Lance shooting this stuff up, his eyes were shifting all over the place and he stopped looking at the reporter. Where were the body language people on this one?! I still support Lance and wish him the best. He quit fighting because he has spend YEARS dealing with this junk. I don't blame him for not playing their game anymore. I think its a SHAME they are taking away his awards and titles like this. I really do. He will always be a winner to me. 🙂

    August 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  23. wizzle

    Unreal that their are people that spend their lives trying to find fault in phenomenal athletes lives. 10 YEARS AGO! Holy crap, thats a decade, let the guy enjoy his victory. We have way bigger drug problems on the streets of LA then in the tour de france, put some of these researches on how to clean that shizz up!

    August 25, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  24. The Scoundrel

    He played within the rules at the time. What is the US government doing meddling with the entertainment industry anyway? The NFL, UCI, USA Swimming, USVBA, NBA, PGA etc. etc.are the governing bodies of each of those entertainment industries/marketing machines. DON'T spend MY tax dollars meddling in these industries!

    August 25, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • wizzle

      Very well put!

      August 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Brad

    I'm a former Cat II rider and Ive always been suspicious of Lance Armstrong. As hard as it was for Hinault, LeMond, Merx, Indurain to win as many times as they did, and then Armstrong comes along and wins 7. After testicular cancer? Come on I'm a romantic but have my limits. I agree that it is a witch hunt though. If they couldnt prove it when he won then drop it.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  26. John Galt

    Did he still bang Sheryl Crow?

    August 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
  27. BB

    Nice title, CNN. Sloppy and sensational. LoveToTri, good points. One thing that especially irks me is the claim that Lance didn't do well in his early career, started doping, and then started winning tours. In fact he had won Tour stages before he got sick and was a very promising rider. But almost no one wins Tours in their early 20s – he had to have more experience and a team behind him. I don't think it can seriously be disputed that he came back and worked like a dog after his treatment. Did he have a little extra help? I don't know, but people are giving the "little extra help" way too much credit. He was the best Tour rider in an era when almost all of his rivals were doping, so my take is that the "little extra help" is not what kept them from winning instead of him. At this point whatever he did should be between him and his conscience, and the USADA should concentrate on keeping cycling cleaner in the future.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Padre Pio

    Keep it up cyclists. You're just digging a deeper and deeper grave for your pathetic "who cares" little sport. Good bye

    August 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  29. agreenplate

    Good riddance to the sport of cycling... it was barely interesting when there was a charismatic superstar. Now who cares? I hope Lance can rise above all these petty back stabbing jealous athletes, he does a lot of good for a lot of people, which is way more than can be said for the USADA. And so much for being innocent until proven guilty. I for one am not remotely interested in following any competitive cycling event ever again.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  30. HJA

    Proof!!!! I want to see proof. Over the years these groups said "We have proof". OK where is it???None have brought forward any evidence. It amazes me how mant "experts" are posting here. Guilty until proven innocent is pretty much what you are saying. If Lance failed a test, SHOW IT! I will say take his awards if you have PROOF! The agency from France said they had a blood test he failed. OK where is it? I agree 100% with Lance...I'm sick of all this crap just like he is. Show proof of your accusations or STFU!!!!!!!!!

    August 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • us_1776

      The USADA only has worthless samples they claim to have tested and found traces.

      Degraded "B" samples that now all have broken chains-of-custody are worthless.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  31. tpinmelbourne

    10+ years after the fact they retested1999 blood samples and found blood consistent with the use of what? 10 years from now they will be able to look back and tell you what you ate for breakfast and if genetically you should even have bothered to be in the race. So what – either you test positive at the time of the race or you do not. Retrospective testing with current day methods that still did not confirm the presence of drugs should not warrant action. If drugs are confirmed you have a case, if not confirmed what are you really after? What will be the allowable look-back period and what new technologies can be applied? This is a very slippery slope.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Glenn

    It is amazing what jealosy can to folks that didn't win and to other lives.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Conspiracy

    Anyone else think his samples were manipulated to show positive use...I mean who keeps samples that far back...except Monica Lewinsky.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • John M

      Competitive sports organizations keep sample that long for this very reason. As new substances to improve performance are invented the testing organizations cannot test for them. Once they catch up they can test. This also applies to masking agents. Once they can test for them they go back and test older samples as well..

      August 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  34. jfb

    he is a fraud and a cheat Good Riddance

    August 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doc1

      And you are a douche.

      August 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  35. LanceRules

    I stand behind Lance. If this witch hunt is allowed to stand then I am all done with watching The Tour de France ever again. The Tour officials should make a statement that as far as they are concerned he won. The USADA is a disgrace, another bunch of goverment officials on a witch hunt. Disgusting.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Pppa

    Jealous jocks, worse than American Idol finalists, and worth about the same amount to society...

    August 25, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
  37. peet gervin

    "Like" +1 vvvvvv
    *********
    Can we please have an article and headline that go together? There's nothing in this article that discusses the other bicyclists who, in theory, have said "Good riddance." Cheap attention-getting shot.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gary

      I agree with you 100%. Deceiving title.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Sara

    I have some advice for all you aspiring cyclists:
    If you want to WIN the Tour de France.... come in second !!!

    August 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • HJA

      "I have some advice for all you aspiring cyclists:
      If you want to WIN the Tour de France.... come in second !!!"

      That won't work. All the 2nd and 3rd place winners from 7 or 9 years have all failed a blood test. Curious isn't it how those trying to beat Lance were caught doping? Now they all accuse him of doping. Show me the failed blood tests.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  39. CJH

    Can we please have an article and headline that go together? There's nothing in this article that discusses the other bicyclists who, in theory, have said "Good riddance." Cheap attention-getting shot.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • brian

      100x This. I mean WTF is going on with headlines and articles here recently. Several times I have to scroll up/down to see I am even on the same page. Much more of this BS and I am out.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Montel

    I am from Austin and followed Lance early on, before he got cancer. He was a mediocre rider at best and never got very far in the Tour d' France. Then he got cancer and he came back a superman in the tour. To me it was always suspicious and there were always rumors and people who had nothing to gain coming forward. I am surprised he got away with it as long as he did really.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patines

      You are speculating !!

      August 25, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  41. PAJ

    When you consider all the evidence that essentially proves Lance innocent, and you pay attention to the USADA's relentless assault on Lance, you have to wonder what their motivation is. And it's not that they "think" he's guilty. It seems to be much bigger than that. It's almost as if Congress/USADA is testing the waters of society to see what they can get away with. Or something very bizzare like that. After all, why in the hell would Congress or the USADA care one iota about a guy who won awards riding a bike in France? It doesn't make any sense to me.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Montel

      Then why not fight it? Lance was always someone who said, never give up. If he was innocent he would continue to shout it from every corner of the world.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Guest

        Couldn't agree more. You would never give up awards you won honestly. And what's the motivation for ALL of these cyclists who are saying the same thing (that he was dirty)? I can see one or two of them having an axe to grind, but 10 of them? I don't think so. This is clearly a case of Armstrong seeing the writing on the wall and doing the only thing that could possibly preserve his reputation-prevent the truth from getting out, knowing some will believe you and some won't.

        August 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • timbo

      Yeah right. And the USADA waterboarded the 10 former team associates who were willing to testify against Armstrong. His reaction? They were coerced! Armstrong backed away from the fight becuase his legal team told him he didn't stand a chance if he went to arbitration. That's it, pure and simple. If he had a case, he would have fought it, so forget the silly spin he's put on it. Same goes for the allegations made by Landis and the other team mate who went on 60 Minutes – they essentially defamed him – if he was an innocent man – so why didn't he sue them, especially given the damage they did to his reputation, and particularly given that he's never been shy of litigating against anyone and everyone in the past. Again, he knew that giving the their day in court would have opened up the entire can of worms.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  42. pforbrains

    People saying that he never failed a drug test: Do you realize that he chose not to fight the charges because the truth would come out? By not fighting the charges, he still leaves a small amount of doubt.

    There were 10 cyclists ready to testify under oath that he cheated and ALSO 2 failed drug tests they were prepared to release.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  43. whatabunchofbs

    this writer is full of sh#*. You need to get a real job and stop trying to make people look bad just to get your articles read. you didn't mention anything about LA passing over 500 drug test so what does that say about your writing, I along with alot of other people say its worthless!!! you F@#kn loser

    August 25, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  44. daniel

    All EPO does is increase your RBC count – big deal, increase it too much and you blood becomes too thick and you die – happened to a cyclist on the Tour before. But overall doesn't give you any more advantage than training at a higher altitude if any at all. This is ridiculous and stupid. Plus drivers 2-5 in all the tours he won had worst drugs in their systems.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Hopeful

    I think this has all been a witch hunt - the tactics employed have been shameful and lacking in real credibility. I believe we should start an effort in the US to remove tax payer funding for the run amok USADA. I do hope thaqt LA's reputation - having done so much for cycling as a sport in the US plus all the work done through his charity – will rise above all this and remain intact.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Mark

    An American hero, who for years, past every investigation in real time. Congress should award him a medal for his performances and contributions to athletics. Lance Armstrong represents the quest for everyone to find out the best you can be at a specific sport or pursuit.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      And George Bush was the greatest US president ever. And Romney is not an evil, self-serving hypocrite. And WWF is NOT staged.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      And if you want people to believe what you say, learn how to spell. The word is "passed", not "past". Quit the writing, hop back on your tricycle, and start hogging the road again.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • timbo

      @R Burns. You're an idiot. EPO does not stay in the body permanently, as your dopey 'chemo' theory suggests.

      At all the morons who keep citing the Armstrong line about the 500 tests, firstly, when it comes to blood doping it's been nigh on impossible in the past to catch people out on it because it simply boils down to a stockpiling of extra blood to inject back into the body prior to racing – so it's not as if the process shows any adverse drug use. Secondly, he hasn't passed every test in his career, as he often cites. A test back in 1999 showed steroids in his system, but it was explained away by a back-dated doctor's script for a cream used for saddle-soreness. Urine samples have also come back tainted, and it was only the fact that the testing process got questioned that saw him get off again. Also, the USADA claims recent blood samples clearly show the use of PED's. Lastly, doping methods are so sophisticated these days that its generally stated that only the idiots get caught, or those pressing their luck.

      Finally, Armstrong can claim all he likes about passing drug tests, but how lame does he look when his only response to finding out that 10 former team members were willing to testify against him was to state that they all had to have been coerced? To date, just about the only former team member who's backed him up has been a team manager who himself is under investigation! Why is it so hard for Armstrong to line up 10 former team members of his own to counter the claims of the other 10? Guess they must all just hate him because of his success?

      August 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
  47. wxman

    When he was racing Lance trained like no one else. And he was able to pass all the drug testing done at the time. Too bad for Lance that cycling is such a drug-abusing sport that his samples were kept and subjected to repeatedly more stringent testing. So eventually they found Lance had been doping and now, in retrospect, they found him to be a cheater. Unfortunately for Lance he signed statements and made countless statements about being clean.

    What a moron. He could have won without doping -again, look back at how he trained. But now we know he didn't win without doping so off with his head!

    How many other athletes would be stripped of their crowns if subjected to the same degree of scrutiny? Plenty. But Lance was the one who got caught. Caught cheating and lying about it. So stripped of all his victories he should be. Still he gets to keep all the money he earned.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • maryfromtexas

      Agree 100%.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  48. badcyclist

    So who, exactly, is saying "good riddance"?

    August 25, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  49. loren

    The French are sore losers! It is time to tell the world that the made up stories coming out will be ignored!! Lance was tested over and over again! Sooooo we bested the losers!! Booo Hooo! Grow up you loose at everything else! Maybe we should never have liberated you in world war two!!?

    August 25, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  50. genebrady

    They don't have the authority to strip him of anything. End of story. The CEO needs to be held accountable for this witch hunt that the courts already stated is baseless and corrupt. All the losers are jumping on this as a reason why they lost.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Pnut

    By our count, of the 21 podium finishers at the Tour de France during the period from 1999-2005, only a single rider other than Mr. Armstrong was not implicated in doping by a subsequent investigation," said Bock. "Yet, only a single one of these riders had a positive test with the UCI." I guess those 500 tests lose a little meaning when most implicated in doping never tested positive.

    August 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Cami

    This whole thing is ridiculous. Fueled by a bunch of sore losers. Watch out Phellps is next!!

    August 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Allison

    Let's be honest–the entire sport of cycling is riddled with doping (as are many other sports–not just picking on cycling). Armstrong was just the most high profile athlete, so they went after him. We need to take a better look at cleaning up the sport as a whole rather than going after random individuals. That will make the most difference in the future, improving the spirit of the sport and competition in general.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • triguy

      99% of pro athletes take PED's. Soon the protein shakes we all drink will be considered PED's because it is synthetic protein. instead of making everything illegal...just make it all legal since everyone is already doing it. will they outlaw altitude tents that produces natural EPO? everyone does it...just make it legal.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
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    • david

      IN past races other riders would try and block him because they knew he was cheating. His own teammates have said he was doping. It was his star status that kept him safe so many years. Now he has to pay the price like Barry Bonds.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  54. trueyou

    This is by far the worst article I have ever read on CNN. I usually don't comment on this stuff but here it goes.

    1. Who cares about you as a writer? Not me. You are just like every other news person on the planet making up a story and sensational title so you can get people to look at the article and prove to your bosses that you are valuable because so many people looked at it.

    2. He never failed a drug test? Never!!! So exactly how did he cheat?

    He is an american hero for his sport and made the cycling organizations millions and millions of dollars.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angelina

      Good points True You. Especially #1. This isn't about if he doped. It's about if they can PROVE he doped. Which they CANNOT! He is innocent and frankly, Lance armstrong has done more for the sport of cycling and the awareness of cancer than anyone. And unlike Susan G Komen, he hasn't bowed to the political climate and tried to pick and choose where the raised funds for his foundation go.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Richard Krinsky

    What a disgrace! We are a country of laws. Who are these witnesses that claim they saw Lance Dopping?
    Lance played by the rules, he was tested so many times at such spontaneous moments and never was there evidence of Dopping.
    Lance was responsible for making cycling a popular sport in the US. He brought about Change and innovation in equipment and training. He created an organization to fight cancer and help people who are fighting the disease .
    The USADA is what? A quasi legal organization approved by Congress when did that happen and what has happened to the organization specifically created to monitor cycling?
    Who are the witnesses who testified against Lance. Floyd Landice, first denied then admitted that he doped in between raising money to defend himself and getting paid by the government for his services.
    "guilty until proven innocent" or is it innocent until proven guilty"
    What does our country stand for?
    Are

    August 25, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • DOUG

      Doesn't matter, he doesn't vote Democrat so as Obama said he needs to be punished. Now if you are a gang banger who shoots people for a living and vote Democrat then you are the Democrats "friends" and they would care that someone is being done wrong but you have Conservative views, you are guilty and in need of "punishment" in the court of Obama and Holder.
      People who possess decency and have integrity have a moral obligation to vote Republican, just listen to this President his own words confirm this.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • What!!?

        I D I O T

        August 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • LisaP

        Your comment has to be among the stupidest posted. Obama has nothing to do with this situation. Are you a Republican, if so, you a prime example of why no one calling themselves that should ever have anything to do with voting and any other public decision.

        August 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Will

    If his teamates saw and knew that he was doping but at that time it was not an"issue"don't you think they would have been doing the same to get an edge.But then they are the most "Holy" and not lower themselves to such advantages.Lets go back and retest the East German woman in the olympics,or any other champs.Let history wrte it's own stories without nobodys trying to make names for themselves.Ride on Lance.....no matter how you did it you can hold your head high.You will always find someone to try and bring you down.....but they can't and won't....

    August 25, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Jay Larsson

    The title of the article is "Cyclists say "good riddance" to Lance. A quick straw poll of all these remarks supports Lance in this forum. I would venture that is the overall view of most logical people to see the USADA for what it is- A kangaroo court. We fight wars over this kind of institution and violation of due process, evidence, the right to face ones accusers, etc.....none of this happened- is this America? I think not. America is gone. I support Lance, always have and always will. He goes out on top in my opinion with dignity.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  58. whoopitydoo2

    He had ONE TESTICLE! He was more aerodynamic than everyone else. Liberals and the rest of the world are jealous that America wins so much that we're bored with it. We send people with one testicle (Armstrong) and dopeheads (Phelps) to compete b/c if we sent our real athletes, it'd be no competition.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Lance in France

    Bttt he is a cycling hero! LAMO :p

    August 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Benny

    Like it or not, he passed hundreds of tests. Retroactive testing?? Are their controls suffcient today or not?? Seriously, what a waste of time, energy, and money by the USDA. Not, 1 or 2 or 3.....but 7 Tours. He didn't simply beat the system.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  61. tom buckle

    Frankly, all of this doping stuff bores me. I could care less whether the win is the result of drugs, obsessive training, natural ability or any other explanation for success. The success is what attracts attention.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Cat

    Sad news, Neil Armstrong has passed away. A great American hero! Has not been announced yet. Only reason I know is because I am sitting here with one of his great nephews. You've been scooped CNN.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Kevin

    From what I've read, they said the old blood samples were "fully consistent" with EPO doping, not that they found ANY TRACE of EPO. This is vague and misleading. EPO causes red blood cell count to soar – but so does intensive training, and possibly so does a given person's genetic makeup. It is almost of stupid as saying "the blood sample was red....which is fully consistent with being doped blood"!

    I don't know whether or not Lance is guilty of doping, but we should be very careful to stick with "innocent until proven guilty". Without a single failed blood test (which can even then be questionable if the testing or handling of samples was not good) or possibly very SOLID eyewitness accounts (not accounts of people that "heard" he doped)...I say – leave the guy alone!

    August 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  64. R Moran

    What a circus ! He passed over 500 drug tests and now after over 5 years they want to ban him for life.....for what ? What proof do they have other than eye witnesses (who admitted cheating themselves ). Will it reduce cheaters by punishing him for something that cant be proven ?..we all know the answer to that.....NO. If they want to investigate something then investigate the 500 negative tests......who gave the tests ? Where are the tests ? How did he pass them ? ........... oh........I know, it was professor Plumb .........and he used a candlestick ........in the library.............give me a break. This whole investigation was a circus...........and it was conducted by clowns.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Carl

    a joke, this governing body. EVERYONE knew? Really, if the ten cyclists that knew did not tell then it is because they were also at it themselves.

    The titles he won were done so when he was tested and did so without a hitch. it seems the US has no balls anymore to tell these associations where they can stick their bats.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • paul

      really? what exactly is the usa supposed to do? tell them we won't compete in their competitions anymore? dont be silly

      August 25, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Lowenado

    Pete Rose spent 20yrs insisting he was a victim of a witch hunt himself. He denied any wrong doing and his fans insisted his innocence all alongside him through the years. They were ALL in DENIAL. Lance will spend the rest of his life as a bitter has-been who was addicted to the fame and attention he got while fooling MOST of us. He is in denial himself. We heard from MANY who tried to let us know. Despite the superhuman results he put up year after year the media and fans followed him blindly. Sound familiar...? Barry Bonds? McGuire? Sosa? A-Rod? TIGER WOODS? Instead we bury those who try to warn us (Canseco), GOD FORBID you ever speak a negative word against LANCE! He beat cancer! It was and always has been a bunch of BS. He is getting what he deserves in my opinion...

    August 25, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • PAJ

      Hey, let's say I get a few people to accuse you of child molesting. There is no real evidence and the accusers can't actually produce the child victim, but they insist you did it. And now the DA's office is involved. Guess what. Now you'll be spending the rest of your life trying to prove yourself innocent in the public's eye because most people are suspecious and will believe you did it. And just think, you were actually innocent all along. How would that make you feel?

      Lance has passed hundreds of drug tests. He's never failed one. And yet, the unconstitutional USADA is relentlessly attacking him as if he is somehow guilty. And just like in my example above, there is no actual evidence against him, but they continue their assault anyway. And the suspecious minds of the damned condemn him at every possible opportunity. Eventually, Lance decides that he cannot win against this monster from hell, so he decides to bail out of a no-win situation and try to have a life with his family. Then this unholy army of the damned (suspecious minds) use his decision to claim that bailing out proves he is guilty. How sadistic is that?!

      You suspicious minded hate-mongers are no different that the sub-human primates who stood outside the gates 2000 years ago and screemed "crusify him." And now, 2000 years later, you are calling for Lance to be crusified. There is no need for you to be judged by God. Your actions have already done that for you. Gack!

      August 25, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • johndanger

      On what physical evidence do you base your absolute certainty of his guilt? How did he pass every one of his many, many drug tests?

      August 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  67. pigboy

    Never failed a drug test trumps heresay every time. Armstrong is still the winner to most peoples.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
  68. w6of14

    13 years of legal battles and excessive drug testing, later. Who wouldn't give up? Nothing was proved. I think after he was acquitted from a federal investigation and grand jury, they should have left him alone. If you are. Vaguly familiar with the history of his doping allegations, you can't deny it's a witchhunt. And you have to admit, if he was doping, not only is he the fastest cyclist, since they all dope, but he's also some sort of master at concieling his drugs. 13 years and they have No evidence

    August 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  69. aicohn

    You expect the man to walk into a lion's den where 58/60 cases have resulted in guilty verdicts in a case where the justice department already gave up because of a lack of evidence. In medieval times, we tied a stone to the accused's neck, and threw him in the water. If he drowned, he was innocent. If "the water rejected him", he was a warlock. It is a testament to Lance's intelligence beyond his athletic ability that he wouldn't sign up for that abuse.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  70. oscar vaca

    WHY DOES CONTROVERSY CONTINUE? YOU WOULD THINK THAT AFTER SEVERAL YEARS SOME STATUTE OF LIMITATION WOULD ELIMINATE ANY QUESTIONABLE ACHIEVEMENTS. I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED THAT A RETESTING YEARS AFTER WOULD INTRODUCE UNKNOWN RESULTS. THE AGENCY IN CHARGE OF TESTING SHOULD STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND ADMIT THE FLAWS OF POST TESTING AND MOVE ON.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Stephen

    Cycling turning against Lance Armstrong is as if the NFL had turned against Namath in 1970 or the NBA having turned against Jordan in the 1980's. Armstrong is THE athlete that has put your sport on the international radar screen. Without him, cycling fades back into obscurity. Realisticly, how many riders can the average person name? One.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Cat

    Let's see, the USADA, which has been around since 2000, decides to strip Lance of all his Tour racing titles, which he won in another country. This race which has been around for decades and is wholly European and has it's own governing bodies is supposed to bend over and allow the USADA take precedence because it has witnesses implicating LA? So I guess then it would be ok for a 10 y/o upstart drug agency from say Lichtenstein or Malta strip Roger Clemens of his multiple MLB CY Young awards because they have a witness ready to implicate him in juicing? What you say MLB?

    August 25, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  73. skooloose

    Are they going to test ALL other riders in the same manner as they have Armstrong? Unless they do Then I am fine with Armstrong keeping all his titles.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Hman

    The worst part about this was tax dollars were wasted on this. The bill should be passed on those who actually care. If it was, I bet you they wouldn't care then. What a waste of time.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • skooloose

      I say the same thing about local governments placing biking lanes and signs at the expense of drivers. Make the f*&^ing bike riders pay.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Juan

    Andy Shen is the most ignorant writer and athlete I've ever heard. To say “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement" is quite a statement. So any human in the future that comes close to or surpasses Lance's speed will automatically be accused of doping? By that rational, Michael Phelps must have been doping! If no other human can do it, then it must be cheating. And the idea that years later you can say that now they've found traces of something in his blood work is rediculous. If at the time of the competitions, when the blood is originally tested, nothing is found and the athlete passes, that should be it. You don't get to keep testing it until you come up with the answer you want. Would you want your blood used against you in the court of law if it had proven you innocent in the past but all of the sudden, years later with no proof of chain of custody of your blood someone claims that now, all of the sudden they have found something to point to your guilt? Another question. Are they testing every other rider in the Tour for those years? Do they even have every other riders blood work for those years? If not how do you say it isn't a witch hunt? Isn't the point to stop doping in the sport? Or is it just to stop the best doper in the world? If you don't go after every single rider in the same way then the USADA is a complete joke and shouldn't even be allowed to pursue this.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOe SANI

      The issue with Amstrong has always been out. Everybody that follows cycling KNOWS the guy has been cheating forever; the fact that nothing has been provrn at the time (and always later) is more due to the fact that he helped engenieer some of the drugs that were "allowed" because they were not prohibeted at the time. For example the blood "puryfing" which was banned after it became know to be used by him and his teammates.
      For me he is superhuman in his fight against cancer and will always admire his; as a cyclist he is a cheat.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Lowenado

        EXACTLY

        August 25, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • aicohn

      Supposedly there is an 8 year statute of limitations even per world doping authority's own rules. I wouldn't be surprised if UCI says anything before 2004 stands period & they will adjudicate the 2004-2005 evidence themselves. That's the most likely outcome of this. USADA claims UCI must simply affirm and enforce their pronouncement of guilt. Nothing could be further from the truth.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Patricia

    II support Lance Armstrong. None of the tests that he took came out reading positive. His "closing the book" on fighting the charges, to me, does not indicate guilt. Just as he said, there comes a time when a man has to do what he has to do and get on with his life. It is too often that we cry, "doping" when an athlete excels beyond the standard. It happened at the recent 2012 Olympics, when a senior U.S. coach suggested doping , when a 15 year old Chinese swimmer broke her record and that of Lochte and won two gold medals. She previously competed internationally and place 1st. Her drug tests taken at the Olympics were negative, yet the U.S. senior coach cried dope. Yet, when Missy Franklin, 16 years old went on to win four gold medals, no one cried dope. Very unequal treatment. Leave Lance Armstrong alone; his former team mates have "sour grapes". Records are set and records are broken, that is why we have the competition. There is no proof that this man has used drugs. This is a witch hunt and they should give it up; it is embarrassing to say the least. Take the high road people.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Mike

    Love Lance! Love to Ride! Don't understand the doping issue and don't care.
    Live Strong!

    August 25, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • paullubbock

      I have heard that since all of Lance's peers where also doping and it was prevalent at the time of the wins by not just the US team but many other teams, removing Lance's wins only places the win on someone who was also doping. So what then. There is no one that won the Tour de France because the high ranking cyclist were dopers? You can't retro test all the prior cyclist to find the "real" winner. We all saw Lance win, he was the winner, end of story. Fix the testing system and move on.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bri

        Excellent point that the USADA hasn't considered or cares to. The question remains if the USADA has the authority to revoke his wins. If the whole field of riders were doping then wasn't the race fair?

        August 25, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      And while you're at it, why don't you list all the rest of the trite, insipid, irritating little catch-phrases ever uttered?

      August 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  78. jdoe

    The title is misleading and sensational. The article quotes exactly ONE local cyclist but gives the impression that many if not most cyclists hate Armstrong. Whether this is true or not, it's not supported in this article at all.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      Exactly!! Grade school journalism!!

      August 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Art

    Can't beat em' berate em' is the new motto in our society. The French version of our USADA hated and was totally jealous of L.A. for decades. Now I'm sure they're happy.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  80. andrea

    I guess that pretty much explains why Greg LeMond never liked him.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  81. System You

    I'd like to know how USADA has the authority to take away Tour results?

    August 25, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  82. rocinante

    "He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible"

    Technique is another factor that must be accounted for. Armstrong has been shown to use, on average, higher gears and a faster rotational speed on his pedals than most cyclists. Plenty of cyclists look at that as a technique difference that could be helping him get better results for less effort.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Fila Park

    Since it's so enticing for athletes to do drugs to enhance their performance even at the risk of their own health, why not just let it be open under the sun and set up a category for the "dopers"? Then people can see/judge the tiny difference between the doped "superman/woman" and the real deal.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • HawaiiWahine

      I agree. Have two divisions for the Tour- Tour de France Enhanced (dopers) and Tour de France Au Naturale, then the cyclists who were enhanced are just competing against each other and the guy who is also fit but not a doper is just competing against the guys who don't use drugs. Anyone that lies about not being in enhanced and fails a drug test gets booted out of the sport.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Soldier

    Sound like some serious haters.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Nate Higgers

    He will never have to pay his award money back, so I seriously doubt he gives a $#!+.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  86. David M Baker

    Nobody wants the USA to win in any sports, because we so good at it. Everybody in profession sports has traces in the systems. Nobody shou;d even have a title in the 7 years Lance one, except for Lance. Everybody gets checked before the the races, and it takes that long to get an answer. Everybody is guity, including Pro Baseball, Football & Basketball and other sports. BAN everyone. He is still the best in the world.

    August 25, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOH

      It's not that you're so good at it. US just has the best education about nutrition, athleticism, body and fitness, and health than any other country... and US caters to that career in the professional field as well. Stop being so arrogant and actually do some research. You're the typical ignorant Americans that foreigners make fun of the US for.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cmon Man

        You just proved his point. Having the best "education about nutrition, athleticism, body and fitness, and health than any other country" is a reason WHY somebody is "so good" at sports. Your argument is like saying, "You're not better at racing than I am, it's just that you are faster than me."

        August 25, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ms. Whitney

      With all due respect, I'm having trouble grasping your argument. How can Lance truly be the best if he's using performance enhancing drugs in a sport where it is completely illegal? From my point of view, that's masquerading as "the best."

      August 25, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  87. John

    Anytime someone does something great people automatically think they must be cheating. Who is next? The world already embarrassed that female sprinter thinking she was a man because she ran so fast. How about Michael Phelps? There is no way he can be so dominant without doping. The problem with the world today is if someone has a hero someone else wants to ruin them. Let it go, if he was doping so were his competitors. Are they going after them next, or just him because he won? Is this what we spend all our taxpayer money on? What a waste of time and resources. Government fraud at its best.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ms. Whitney

      John, I wanted to reply to your comment. I'm not a cyclist and still learning about the sport. My husband is an active cyclist, and has been following this and other cases closely, so I've been asking him about a lot of the reports out there. Other cyclists, including Lance's former teammates and men who have come in second, third, etc. in the Tour have been caught and punished for doping. It's not a persecution of one man, it's a far larger problem in the sport right now.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  88. JOH

    No one cares about Armstrong; let alone cycling as a sport.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • System You

      true...move along we don't need people like you in cycling...

      August 25, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mel Moy

      Do you see the irony in the fact that you read the article and cared enough to comment? How can you possibly think that nobody cares about Lance Armstrong or cycling? You wouldn't have seen such an article or read it yourself if you didn't care to some extent.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      You summed everything up perfectly. On to the next topic.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • gakster

        JOH, you summed everything up perfectly. On to the next topic.

        August 25, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
  89. SUperdad

    Did he ever test positive? If not let it go. A bunch of accusations without proof are just that.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  90. dkl

    The US Anti-Doping agency should be disbanded. I don't want a dime of my tax money going to support this McCarthesque Star Chamber that ignores its own rules to persecute Armstrong for over ten years, with anonymous charges from unidentified sources in one-sided proceedings. Kudos to Lance for sticking it out for so long, but the judge who dismissed his lawsuit was right: let the stupid sport destroy itself if it insists on doing so..

    We need to focus on disbandingt the Anti-Doping agency. This is not the way an American organization is supposed to function. We need strong safeguards for the athletes and strict controls on these inquisitorial actions. The US Olympic committee should ban the US Anti-Doping Agency, and refuse to sanction any event where it is involved.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  91. edco (proof written post)

    Lance is wrong. Read the application form signed and submitted to compete in any Olympic, Tour, World Cup, US Fed, or Tri-Ath cycling event. Read it! You take an oath. It is about sportsmanship, fair play, and disclosure, You agree to the rules or stay home. Every cyclist disciplined or banned was processed by the same officiating Armstrong is subject to. He is tired of the process? What process, he has never attended one hearing. He refuses to read, see, or hear the evidence collected. He is a no show.
    One set of rules for Lance, one set for everyone else. I have competed in cycling events, I have seen brats cut corners bend rules and reshape the competition into something that is an insult to fair play. To the supporters of Lance: the fellow may be a legend in your mind–that is the only place. He is no exemplar of sportsmanship. The USADA has the burden of proof that Lance failed the fair play rules. Lance by his sworn signature on the form is bound to attend the hearing, It is basic, if he does not show, regardless of the evidence, be it true or be it false, he is disqualified from the competition. The notion that Lance is above the hearing because he will lose is absurd, he could win also. That is where and how the other disciplined athletes went down or were exonerated. Where is Lance? In federal court in Austin Texas saying the hearing violates his constitutional rights. The hearing is part of the competition.
    The athlete, by sworn signature on the entrant form, agreed to governing body authority without reservation. If you don't like the rules, don't swear to abide by them, and do not compete!
    Should the St. Louis Cardinals take Don Denkinger and MLB to a Federal Court because Don blew a call in the '85 series? No! you play by, agree to, and live with the rules, this is the essence of sport. Judge Sam Sparks has it correct. He ruled that unless Armstrong can prove the USADA is capricious in enforcement or corrupt in it's officiating the US Federal court system has no knowledge of cycling, and no jurisdiction to officiate the sport. Lance presented no evidence to that effect in the Austin, TX Fed Court.
    What is Lance tired of? His charade and that is all. Good day and good luck.

    Edco

    August 25, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bobby Willis

      INNOCENCE UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A DOUBT

      August 25, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • gakster

        The real issue is not his guilt or innocence. The real issue is that he is a self-aggrandizing, arrogant, annoying fool. And cycling is no more a sport than marbles or tiddly-winks.

        August 25, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
        • Vidikron

          You're an idiot.

          August 25, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Juan

      Easy to say when you aren't the one being persecuted. How is it that he never tested positive in over 500 tests, but that he should have to continue to answer to these allegations? Where is the burden of proof? To say that retroactively something has been found in his blood years after the fact, is pretty sad. If it was your victories that they continued to try and tarnish and you were truly innocent, then you would feel different. You've already decided that Lance is guilty so for you Lance should continue to answer to the USADA for as long as they want to drag this out. For me, all I know is that the so called proof they have is hearsay and questionable blood work that has had no proof of chain of custody for all the years that it has be held. Basically it seems like everyone that says he is guilty is saying he is guilty because he won.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Plusplus

      2 things.1) when pulnlig clips off the internet, you should credit your sources as a courtesy. It also keeps you from devaluing the information you have to impart, considering your credibility is compromised. 2) This clip has no validity in your discussion here as it was shot on 16mm, and to the best of my knowledge, you had nothing to do with the shoot. This clip has nothing to do with DSLRs which drives home my 1st point. Get permission, and the details before you make assumptions.Sincerely,BrentOwner of the youtube stream you pulled the clip from,and editor of the commercial that this clip comes from.

      September 3, 2012 at 5:42 am | Report abuse |
  92. JG

    He still beat all of the best cyclists in the world 7 times.

    If, as every one of his accusers is quick to point, out every or even most of the cyclists he was competing against was also using, then he is either truly super human or is merely the greatest, hardest-working cyclist in history. In either case he is a true champion and this decision doesn't effect my opinion of him at all.

    If they want to invalidate the successes of everyone other athlete from that era and exhaustively research and ban every other athlete from that era then it would at least be fair in the absence of that it is fair to say that they are only coming after him because he was more successful than everyone else.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      They're coming after him because they hate his guts because he is a pig.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  93. tupper

    If they were all doing it how come they all got caught and Lance didn't? They all say they were injecting the same drugs, did Lance have a secret I won't get caught drug. The UCI has discredited most of USADA's witnesses and found nothing wrong with the 2009-10 blood sample they took, tested and gave the USADA. What is the new evidence. This seems to be a rehash of the old and I like the UCI am waiting for something new.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • RedWhite&Blue

      The USADA has been on a witch hunt against Lance for years, and basically dedicated their whole existence to bring him down–based only on allegations from anonymous competitors of Lance. I thought that in our country one is innocent until proven guilty. Apparently this does not apply to Lance when it comes to the USADA. We should disband the USADA and reconstitute it. Prove your case, USADA or leave Lance alone. He has made the USA proud.

      August 25, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  94. R Burns

    "He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible . . . They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them" Things are not always as they seem. A science documentary that aired about 2 years ago featured the results of heart and lung tests on Armstrong that showed an unusual genetic ability for extended physical exertion, not related to doping. Also, the EPO's that have been in his system are the result of chemo (my mother was on the same drugs for low blood count) necessary to treat his cancer. You can't have it both ways-either cancer patients taking chemo are allowed a certain amount of the necessary drugs and can still compete, or using blood-boosting medications for cancer eliminates you from eligibility for athletic competition. Everybody wants it black or white, and here we are crucifying a gifted athlete with unusual innate abilities who also had cancer. Witch hunt, yes.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • macuy

      Thank you for your post. You have made more sense in such few words and vidicated Lance, in my opinion, than the long posts other put up to vilify him.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • LoveToTri

      EPO, is a protein that is broken down by the body within hours. Its half-life (the time for half of a dose to go away) is 6-8 hours. Any exogenous (from an outside source) EPO he received during chemo in 1996 would have been long gone in 1999. If he has an innate genetic ability to make high levels of natural, endogenousEPO, that same level would have shown up consistently on each and every test. Yes, it looks like he was the victim of a witch hunt and many people have been trying to catch him. if he'd have stayed retired, none of this would have been an issue. And, I appreciate that Lance is one of the greatest cyclists of all times, but as a scientist, I have to conclude that it appears even the best has had a little extra help.

      August 25, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Yeah its too bad he never flunked a drug test but if uou're doing a hatchet job on him so what!

      August 25, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
  95. cuk

    many others have been caught and/or admitted to doping. where are their wins?

    August 25, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  96. collegesportsfan

    Regardless of your opinion of Lance Armstrong, one this is for certain, he has brought more attention, popularity to this sport than any single individual in its history. Because of Lance, endorsements were at an all time high, advertising revenues were at record levels, bicycle sales and all the collateral supplies have grown and publications and readership have grown. As isn the the case with Tiger, as Lance and Tiger go, so does the financial fortunes of all connected. Actually that is exactly how baseball recovered from the strike. Like it or not, people love winners, love to see records set and records broken and while Lance may or may not have used PEDS, make no mistake, 90% of the sport used them at some point, that is clear now, so in a tainted world, Lance was still super human and had a work ethic like no other...

    August 25, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • ace mac

      I just can't convict. Can't get past the science. 500+ tests (blood, urine, hair, etc) all passed at the time of the tests. Every stage win...manditory test...clean. Clean, clean. clean ...., ....., .......
      My theory:
      Lance was involved in doping, heavily involved. Just did not take drugs himself, but needed his inferior teammates to take drugs to support him on the road, up those pre-climbs, bring him nurishment.
      If that truth is revealed then the titles get stripped anyway.

      August 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • InMyHappyPlace

        WOW serious speculation. Love to hear more of your delusions.

        August 25, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Dank

    Here are two things I am sure of:
    1) Lance Armstrong doped
    2) Lance Armstrong is the greatest cyclist of all time
    I do not find these things irreconcilable because it turns out that everyone in the sport doped (certainly at the time and probably still today). Bicycling magazine has shown that, for every year Lance was on the podium, 90% of the top 10 riders have been found guilty or at least implicated in doping scandals. The rest just haven't been caught. The fact that Lance was tested more than any of his competitors just shows that he is either smarter, or actually may have doped less than his competitors (or both). So the bottom line is that it was a level playing field and Lance beat all of his competition for seven straight years in the most grueling athletic competition in the world.

    That is your new opinion. You're welcome.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Donna Dils

      Unfortunately, they're dancing in the streets of France. They haved hated Lance for so long that I wouldn't be surprised if the French government was subsidizing USADA and will go along with them on any decision. I can't get past this. I'm afaid cycling is losing a great advocate in me unless some of those on the road come out in support of Lance. I have only heard Chris Horner speak on hi behalf so far. Come on Levi, come on George. He would support all of you!!!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
  98. RJB

    Lots of interesting comments both supporting and against LA. The question that I haven’t seen asked is how is the USADA going to strip LA of his titles that were won in another country and governed by an organization that based in Switzerland? Seems to me like the USADA is trying to flex some muscles that I don’t think they really have.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      Been wondering this myself. Also the USADA didn't even exist before 2000 and Le Tour has been around for how many decades? Those are some brass cajones USADA is sporting. Arrogant much?

      August 25, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Will i am

        USADA needed a BIG fish to fry to legitimize itself. What they got was the biggest one and plus he is an American.

        How in the world can you accuse someone of dopping if he has NEVER failed a drug test. Contrary to what some of these so called writers say. IE gone back and tested sample from 13 years ago are complete FULL of $hit!

        August 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
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      • CoolNeutral

        It think the USADA is contending it is a proxy for the WADA, so whatever it decides is the opinion of WADA, and WADA took over the testing for UCI so there is probably some grandfather clause about the responsibility. Why USADA should be concerned about the actions of a retired rider for a french bike race as opposed to the array of olympic medals posted by USTF or some other reasonable domestic chicanery isn't apparent either. Nevermind the sweetheart deals the USADA cut with the riders set to 'testify' – purportedly a six month ban for a lifetime of cheating. Seriously, you give ten guys a free pass to get info on a retired rider? How is that justified?

        August 25, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Geoffrey

      It's fait accompli. National doping agencies findings have always been upheld by WADA and therein lies the key to stripping LA of the titles. There is no precedent of associate organizations, i.e., FIFA, IAAF, FIVB, etc., not upholding WADA's penalties.

      August 26, 2012 at 6:44 am | Report abuse |
  99. LG

    I personally feel that there is more to this than meets the eye. I happened to look up on Wikipedia information on how many total wins by rider and country. Look who would gain back their dominance in total wins if Lance should not continue to fight this:

    By riders and Rank:

    #1 Lance Armstrong USA – 7

    1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005

    #2 Jacques Anquetil FRANCE – 5

    1957, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964

    Hmmmmm sounds awful fishy to me.

    August 25, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • C Bauer

      The French are all jealous queers.

      August 25, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
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