Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong
The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Thursday it will strip Lance Armstrong of seven Tour de France titles and ban the cyclist for life.
August 24th, 2012
09:08 PM ET

Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

(CNN) - The reaction to Lance Armstrong’s announcement that he would no longer fight doping allegations was about as fast as his record setting winning times at the Tour de France. Armstrong may be stripped of every title he ever won and faces being banned from all competition for the rest of his life.

Andy Shen is a writer for the cycling website, NY Velocity, and a competitive cyclist here in New York:

[1:20] “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement. There’s been evidence of his doping. They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them… There’s so much evidence over time that you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean.”

Armstrong’s remaining supporters still believe he’s the victim of a witch hunt. They claim his achievements are the result of superhuman capabilities. Shen sees a silver lining in this:

[3:12] "Among competitive cyclists, the hope is that as the truth comes out the sport will be able to clean itself up and face its past. And, you know, it’s pretty much acknowledged that the sport is cleaner than it ever has been."

In saying that he was finished with this "nonsense" and would no longer address the issue, Armstrong still did not admit any wrongdoing. He may still claim innocence, but to many in the cycling world, it was as good as an admission of guilt.

What do you think?  Does Armstrong deserve a lifetime ban?  Ring in with your thoughts in the comment section below.

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  1. blinky

    I will add that I am in a super-competitive business where a few people do superbly, a rung below them do pretty well, and the big majority just scrape by. Those people at the bottom complain about the few top people all the time, as though they have some unfair advantage over everyone else. But that isn't true. What they have is talent and drive. You have to be resourceful and quick-thinking to make it to the top of the heap in my world. The rest wish they had their wits, energy, dedication and game plan or, like Andy Shen, console themselves thinking their competitors must not be playing by the rules. I've met plenty of people who believe that, but can't demonstrate it one bit.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
  2. little_lance

    So quoting some middle aged Cat 4 wannabe is worthy of my time? CNN jump to PEZ or VeloNews for a little more clout.


    August 26, 2012 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
  3. Kant Handelit

    Yeah, screw that guy who keeps beating us in every race.

    He's a real jerk, and a liar, and a thief, and we don't like him.

    Can we have our medals now? ... please?

    August 26, 2012 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Lokust

      pretty much.

      Innocent until proven guilty, and he's never been proven guilty. You have a bunch of people he beat lined up to give hearsay, but that's it.

      He's retired and probably just wants to move on with his life and not devote any more energy to this.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:10 am | Report abuse |
      • M.D. Legere

        Well guilty is for heaven, not earth...either way, i wish him the best, he left his wife for Crow, then got cancer, i wonder what the Lord has for him next...doesn't he know he was great before all that...the devil's handy work...but admission is not required...guilty sounding for sure...I hope he heals his heart...he's worth it.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Nathan smith

      You're just another delusional fanboy. The guy they interviewed didn't even race against your boyfriend Lance, genius.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
      • blinky

        Nathan, If you're refering to me as "another fanboy," I've never liked Lance Armstrong. He is on one huge ego trip. But that has nothing to do with the validity of his achievements.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Does it matter

      The only money this ruling is taking away is the money from future donations to lance's livestrong foundation......THanks for taking money away from cancer patients .

      August 26, 2012 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
  4. blinky

    CNN, You really call this a story? You quoted one resentful cyclist... twice. That does not mean you have a plurality of "cyclists" responding. All that this loser cyclist said is, "I can't imagine riding so fast." And that's why he's not in the winning class, because he can't imagine the impossible. That ability, plus super hard work, is what differentiates champions from wannabes.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
  5. jovana

    I'm not a Lance Armstrong fan. Being a cancer survivor myself, I don't think anyone who beat the disease would take anything that might have an effect on the body cells & the return of the deadly disease.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Brendan

    Jealousy is always happy to rear it's ugly head, as are retribution and hatred. All are alive and thriving in the good ole US of A. No one dare excel too much, for you shall incur the wrath of the jealous. There can be no saints anymore, either. All potential role models must be brought to their knees. This country, and probably many others, will be vanquished by ther rise political correctness and disrespect, the death of decorum.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Keith South Florida

    Really CNN, you quote some half azzed cyclist in NYC – Andy Shen... Who the heck is he? Has he ever raced in the Tour?

    Judge Lance by his peers!
    Hinault – Doesnt care to comment becasue he thinks its bullchit
    Merckx – Doesnt care either and wants it to go away because its unjust
    Half the pro peleton dosnt give a crap since he toasted them too.
    He never tested positive.
    Beat Cancer
    Did more for the SPORT than any other cyclist.

    To top it off USADA is so far from democratic its unbelievable.
    Tygart is basically the judge and he appoints the jury. Literally guilty to proven innocent....

    To top it off every 2nd and 3rd place finisher is either a convicted doper or currently on charges.

    Why are you demonizing this guy? I know I am not the only one. Livestrong has had 25% more donations today alone...

    August 25, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • JG

      Keep drinkin' that LiveStrong Kool-Aid. I'd venture to say, NO amount of evidence would convince apologists like yourself who are fanatical about your idols, and indulgent in athletic idolatry. What's a little doping here and there when Lance's helped just throngs of folks right? Who care if his legacy was built on deception, messaging and carefully litigated language, he was a patrol saint of philanthropy.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Keith South Florida

        If you've never turned pedals in anger. You will never understand.

        August 25, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
        • jules0122

          Wow, that's heavy.

          August 26, 2012 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
      • Troika

        One piece of real court admissible evidence might. So far, there as been none.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Does it matter

        If it is rampant in the sport does it give a person an advantage over other people. If you are going to make a statement...disavow all results from all racers....basically erase the last 15 years of cycling. Otherwise it is a mute point in a mute sport. The riders do not care....the fans do not care.....does it really matter. The only thing that matters today is if this may effect the people who are donating to the cancer foundation.....The only thing it can do is hurt.....Basically the only one this ruling hurt are the future cancer patients that may be losing out on donations....Armstrongs wallet will not hurt.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Cris0744

      Andy shen is the guy who stole Lance Armstrong spare bike in California, he comsiders himself a cyclist but not, he is a tri-cyclist with training wheels. CNN quoted him because Andy Shen is a scum

      August 25, 2012 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • jules0122

      He knows there is scientific evidence to prove he lied. And add to that his teammates that are willing to tell the truth about him. Yes, he has done great things for cancer research. That is a separate thing from cheating in his sport.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
  8. BK

    If he's been doped up for that long, how come no one noticed until now? Someone hasn't been doing their job, seriously.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
  9. David B

    actually Lance failed a number of tests but bribed, bullied and litigated his way out. As a cyclist I'm happy to see justice finally done.
    Lance cheated. So did the other top contenders. It was interesting watching the TdF in 2011. Climbing the Alp d'Huez the climbers were 5% slower than Armstrong in 2005 and were exhausted. Armstrong popped off his bike like he had cycled 2 blocks to the store. Either everyone has gotten fat, lazy and forgotten how to train and the bikes have gotten worse, or he cheated.
    As another cyclist who was caught doping said 'I didn't get caught because I cheated, I got caught because I was stupid.'

    August 25, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith South Florida

      That is a ridiculous statement. Depending on stage length, where it was placed (after another hard day) and who was in the break... Cmon really? To this day, Greg LeMond has one of the fastest time trials. BUT HE ISNT ON TRIAL?

      August 25, 2012 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Micci

        LeMond's '89 TT you refer to was a point to point TT, rather short in duration, featured a strong tailwind, plus a net elevation loss...so what was your point again...???... Your ignorance of fact is showing...

        August 26, 2012 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
        • Keith South Florida

          Wait, was it one of the fastest? Yes. Did Greg admittedly ride amongst admitted dopers? Yes.

          So how is that different than Lance – yeah thought so.

          I've ridden more miles than you have brain cells.
          Go retire your cat 4... retard.

          August 26, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • damo12345

      Thank you for sharing the abundant evidence that he "bought, bribed, and bullied his way out" of "tests he failed".

      Of course you shared none, but that's because there IS none.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  10. fp737

    It seems out of character for someone as competitive as Lance to give up on this fight, and sadly taints his continued expression of innocence. I have no idea whether he doped or not – wish him well. The sport is the big loser here.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
  11. wjbara

    ok here we go i am by far not an Armstrong fan by any means i dont like him never have never will , but in all honesty everyone has to question why all the sudden right know they are looking into him. i mean he was tested before and after every race and all the sudden after wining the tour de france 7 times they want to look into him . i find it hard that he cheated . this is coming from a serious cyclist myself i don't think he did anything wrong or he had any clue anything wrong was being done. also being that most of the time he was training in Colorado at 5000+ feet above see level they body will start to produce more oxygen and build larger Capillaries that might also explain they amount of power he had over other riders . i have a friend from NJ that used to ride with me all the time : he moved out to Colorado and comes back to nj for two weeks every year and when we ride he kicks my ass and my buddy was slow to all the sudden keep up or even pass me was amazing . . so when it comes down to it i think where he trained and how much he trained is what made him great . and LANCE I STILL DON'T LIKE YOU .

    August 25, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Eric

    If 500 tests did not catch him, then why bother testing. Probably the entire pro sports world where endurance or strength is the key element is doing something if it is that easy to hide. At least in the 7 year that Lance won 85% of the top ten finishers were caught at some point.
    This is like the war on drugs. You can only make a small dent, but never stop it.
    He was by far the best cyclist as they ALL use PED.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • wjbara

      i agree with you after so many tests and still no hit on him come on they are really trying to get him at this point .

      August 25, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackie

      This has been going on since 1998. They couldn't prove it then and they can't prove it now. Witnesses'? They just want there 15 minutes of fame. After ten years, it certainly is a witch hunt. The USADA needs to give it a rest. No matter what happens Lance, we are proud of you.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Michael

    Test ALL of the riders and judge them ALL by the same standards. Then judge Armstrong and ALL of the riders. If they all used performance enhancing drugs, then Armstrong still won.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Only Fair

    Pete Rose got banned for life...only fair to do the same to Armstrong.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Why? Pete Rose DID gamble on baseball games. Armstrong passed HUNDREDS of drug screenings. The only reason the USADA is pushing as hard as they are is to show everyone else what "tough guys" they are to try and dissuade other athletes from cheating. Armstrong is just their fall guy.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • wjbara

        it is sad they are trying to make the bog guys the fall guys .

        August 25, 2012 at 11:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB

      In all honesty, did you graduate high school? Come on ... be honest... Did you?

      August 25, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Delilah

    There comes a point when we just don't want to hear it anymore. He peed in the cups upon request and came up clean many, many times. He likely did the same things that everyone else did because it was acceptable at that time. EVERYONE did it. If all of this had come before a jury of his peers, I believe they would not have convicted him of any wrongdoing. Just like with Roger Clements... yeah, maybe he did something, but the rumors and innuendo was not enough to convict him. Same with Lance. Even with EVERYONE all plumped up with drugs, HE WON!!! No matter what the rules were at the time, no matter what the commonly accepted behavior was at the time and no matter how those things changed over the years... and no matter that SUDDENLY what was casually taken with a grain of salt is now considered a major offense... HE WON! Take away his wins, do whatever you want, but you cannot change the fact that he won. I say, leave him alone and give him back his wins! This is all just ridiculous.

    August 25, 2012 at 11:06 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Mary

    Lance Armstrong will also be the greatest in my book and as far as I'm concerned what a waste of time, mone and effort on this whole shameful "witch hunt!" Good for Lance telling them in essence "stuff it! I'm done with this whole thing!" Lance we love ya!

    August 25, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
  17. VA Rider

    Bottom line, the USADA has not shown one shred of physical or empirical evidence to ANYONE, not to Lance, not to the American public, to prove their claims, if they're so sure, they need to lay out what they have, until then, their accusations are as baseless as they claim Lance's proclamations of innocense to be.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nathan smith

      VA rider, you are just an idiot. Do you beat off to a Lance poster every night?

      August 26, 2012 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
  18. Stubby

    Lance = Champion. All the physical evidence says "no doping" but hearsay has him convicted, despite the physical evidence. He was right not to fight because the agency already convicted him without a trial. If that is the way they operate, then let them do what they want. Lance still won those races and has done more good with his Livestrong organization than the next top 100 cyclists put together.

    But for a moment, lets just say that there was some funny business during his racing career. The doping was so widespread at that point that there is no one who is above suspicion, so who is declared the "winner"? Jan Ulrich? Who couldn't face the same hearsay allegations? Might as well just put down "no winner" for all those years and ban them all – they are pretty much all retired anyway. What a crock. Follow the physical evidence and you'll find the truth.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
  19. celenity

    I find this title hilarious. A single person is enough to say "cyclists" (which means "more than one cyclist"...) That's quite a big failure on your website team, CNN. Also...

    Now, I don't condone drug use in the least, but to many cyclists (or at least the couple of professionals I have talked to), Armstrong is the reason they are racing today. If not for him, and what he did on and off a bike, many racers would never have taken up the sport.

    So, while he may or may not have cheated to win those 7 Tour de France titles, there should be little room to dispute that , ultimately, Armstrong is a major reason that cycling has prominence at all in the US, and the sport has grown as much as it has recently.

    Just one guys opinion here.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • acergrace

      I amazed that some of the young posters on here feel its OK to cheat if you don't get caught at the time. Shows us the direction the country is heading. Sport is about competing honestly. Its not about masking the cheating in a way you don't get caught right away. The gig is up on Mr. Armstrong and his gullible supporters.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • focotacoma

        What you have said here is baseless. No one said that they felt "its OK to cheat if you don't get caught at the time". Your a complete moron if you think anyone has said that the fact is he has never tested positive. Produce one positive test and most everyone including I will change my tune. But the fact remains he is a strikingly clean athlete in a sport full of PED usage. Moreover those naysayers who still say Armstrong is a fraud why do you say so, because he is faster than everyone else, or because he is just too good, or is it because no one can win a single event 7 times. You all are fools to think your stupid one line comments (with no thought other than hate or jealousy) mean jack to anyone. Regardless of your opinions none of you will ever will live up to the legacy of Armstrong and what he has done for cycling and the world at large. Perhaps he is a fraud perhaps he isn't i don't know and I don't think for a minute I do know (i just base my claims of the physical evidence that has been presented). To the few but surprisingly frequent b**tards who posted above that he should give back his earning the man has raised over 500 million for a charitable cause that affects each and everyone of us directly or indirectly, give it a rest!!!!

        August 26, 2012 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • velobob

      i agree with your statement...poor choice in headline here...

      August 25, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Eric

    I am a cyclist, a Greg Lemond fan and I race criteriums at 40+. Here is my take on this.

    When Lance broke on the scene, pre-cancer, I wanted to be a fan, but his attitude was me me me. He made an ass of himself at his first Tour De France and did not post well in the Atlanta Olympics. Then, he faced cancer and survived. I think mortality kicked him in the rear. He became more likeable and I softened my view of him. He began winning and winning big, which I know can be addictive. Also, at this level of cycling, big money is involved. You have sponsors to keep happy and you have to stay on top. The Tour De France is the most grueling sporting event and it takes more than super-human men to ride it. The event completely breaks down the body and your blood. Cyclists turn to blood doping and drugs to stay competitive. They have private doctors who know when to supply their cycling patients the meds during the season and not get caught on the big stage. Call it a witch hunt or what you want but USADA executed what the UCI (the International governing body of professional cyclists) could never do – bring Lance to his knees. It's a sad day for cycling, but whatever USADA had caught up to Lance. Yes, they do not have the authority to strip him of titles, however I think stripping him of his World Championship would have been a better kick in the gut than his seven tour titles.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  21. AZtriguy

    So calling bullsh*t on this "so-called" article... just goes to show that CNN stands for Crap Not News.... I will never watch or read again, anything CNN has to say...

    August 25, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • skeptic4life

      Take it easy, Sparky. Sometimes the news isn't what you want to hear. Yes, it's hard to learn that Santa Claus, the Easter bunny and even Lance Armstrong aren't what you thought they were. When you cheat, and get caught, you have to give back what you never owned in the first place.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
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      August 25, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse |
  22. MannyHM

    Where is the proof of his guilt ?

    August 25, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Acergracer

      Proof? 5 EPO positives from the 1999 Tour for starters. Its been widely published and even interpreted by one of the leading sports physiologists in the world.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Codepwned

        Except that the samples from 1999 had what are considered 'possible false positive' readings. When you genetically test something you do it 5-10 times. You then look at the resulting data and make an assessment. In general this kind of test shouldn't show anything however in 1999 the rules were DIFFERENT than they are today. There are thousands of things that can result in false positive tests when testing for EPO. Several olympic competitors had this happen prior to the olympics, look it up.

        The point is, every single test, planned or not, scheduled or not he passed. That's almost 1200 tests over his entire career with not one showing anything. Suddenly they find results from samples in 1999? It's far to suspect and it even goes against their own rules (8 year limit). It's a witch hunt pure and simple.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nathan smith

      It's coming dumbass. You are so blind , if your boyfriend Lance confessed, you still wouldn't believe it. Idiot.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
  23. rb

    Please revise the title of your article. You are quoting one cyclist, whom I, nor any of my cycling buddies, have ever heard of. He does not represent us. ALL cyclists that I have spoken to think this whole thing has indeed been a witch hunt and none of them think "good riddance." Lance passed hundreds of drug tests. If old blood samples were pulled and retested with new methods, than ALL blood samples from those years should be retested. In addition, there needs to be solid proof that this test does not cross-react with any degenerating blood products in stored years old blood. And who is the USADA to strip Lance of his titles? They have no authority to do that. They have still, in my opinion, NOT proven him guilty. He has been found innocent of drug use multiple times and the matter should have been DROPPED. This is nothing more than a sign of an over-reaching power-hungry governmental bureaucracy.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Klanker

      JB? Are you hiding behind this rb alias?
      Let's be real, they're all dirty...just depends on how well they can disguise it.
      So Lance loses his titles, he made his mark on our sport....you can't take that away from him.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Sue

    SHAME, SHAME,SHAME on this totally disgraceful person (NOT man) to lie, cheat for Fame, Glory!Whatever is imbeded in his brain to lie, cheat for glory/fame? HE only has the answer and it is total Greed, FAME.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • proper english

      actually the correct third person or mixed group identifier in English is man,men, man's. so for example if someone had given a statement and you did not know the gender of the person the correct use would be he said. not they said

      August 25, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Donna Dils

    Hey Lanceisafraud-what overwhelming evidence do you have??? The rest of us have seen no evidence. Yeah, it's a shame those lilly white and pure second place tour winners like Contador and Voight have suffered so. I love people like you who have no clue and weigh in just for your 5 minutes of fame. What a blowhard.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Dann

    No evidence, no credibility, no problem. I can't tell if the difference between the WADA, US Cycling and Congress.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Lance Armstrong's left nut

    Lance "I'm a big fat lier" Armstrong said this: "'I'm more at ease now than I have been in 10 years'"

    Thats because he doesnt have to lie about his doping.The truth will set you free.

    August 25, 2012 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • DB

      The third grade. did you pass it. curious,... in that god for saken place which you were spawned. did they happen to have television or perhaps a newspaper that included more than cartoons and the details of Mrs Titwiggles garage sale. Life is chess.. not checkers. I believe the news of Snookie and her baby would be more suitable for a person of your intelligence. Good luck at Mcdonalds tomorrow. remember.. the correct pronunciation is "Would you like fries with that burger"? ok great.. good luck with that one.

      August 25, 2012 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
  28. E-man likes Lance

    Lance passes a drug test (actually hundreds). Lance wins many Tours de France (more than anyone else). A few of Lance's former Teammates (most proven Cheaters, with actual FAILED drug tests) and former associates (with many different motives probably) Point fingers at Lance, saying he's a doper. USADA takes their word for it and erases his entire cycling career. How dumb?

    Who's next for USADA? Maybe they can find some troublemakers at Missy Franklins high school to point fingers at her? How about some frat boys in Maryland to Point fingers at Michael Phelps to bring him down? Maybe USADA can round up some convicted felons in Oregon to "take down" Ashton Eaton or Galen Rupp? Where does it end? He took the test, he passed the test, he has never adimitted guilt, and he followed the rules of the UCI. How is his career erased? Dumb!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Raphael

      Well said!

      August 25, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Raphael

    I can't believe how many people quickly jump out and call him a fraud with no education, research or even spending 5 minutes to think why he may have had trace amounts of EPO for which I've never even seen the results. If anything he was at a disadvantage due to lower red blood cell counts from cancer would would have negated any benefit of EPO which was and is utilized by doctors in the treatment of cancers along with blood transfusions.

    "If chemotherapy causes your anemia, the doctor may treat it with erythropoiesis-stimulating agents such as epoetin alfa (Epogen 'EPO' or Procrit) or darbepoetin alfa (Aranesp). These drugs are forms of erythropoietin that are grown in the laboratory and work by telling the bone marrow to make more red blood cells. Both are given as a series of injections and can take up to four weeks to start working; however, they also are associated with serious health risks. Learn more about the recommendations for epoetin and darbepoetin treatment".


    August 25, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Allie D

    Besides quoting Andy Shen (who the hell is that and where does he say "good riddance?") which other cyclists are saying, "good riddance"? Am I reading the same small article or is there something I missed? I think the majority of the cycling world believes he is innocent. I am not delusional. The author of the article might be for just telling us how we feel and what he must believe others aren't saying.
    Can USADA strip him of tour titles? Can they strip Italian cyclists of tour titles. I didn't realize that they had such far reaching international influence. The U.S. government dropped their case, USADA conitnued. Where is the proof? Show us the money, USADA!
    Cyclists, at least the four that I've talked to, say he's the victim of USADA insanity. SO THERE!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Doug

    I don't care what this current Kangaroo court has to say about Lance. He is and always will be a cancer surviving hero and a 7 time Tour champion!

    August 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
  32. martiniano

    Please revise the headline to say "Cyclist", singular. You quote a minor figure of a single city as if he represents all cyclists everywhere. What is being pushed on Armstrong is the same BS as what was pushed on Flo Jo. When an athlete comes along who is revolutionarily better than everyone else the "must" be on drugs. It is a way for you to feel good about yourself but that does not make it fair. Just as there are revolutionarily brilliant minds like Einstein and Hawking and Curie there can be physical revolutions. Not all progress is evolutionary.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torin

      Who the HELL is Andy Shen anyways??

      August 25, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  33. bob drummond

    in my opinion, the anti-doping folks are the ones who should be banned. It seems that every time we get a champion, there is some organization trying to destroy him. It's a wonder anyone tries to compete any more. I think the case of Roger Clemens is a great example of this; no matter how much a competitor claims that he never used drugs/doping to enhance his performance, there are those who are determined to discredit him, even if only by the testimony of other/disgruntled competitors. I personally believe that lance armstrong is a decent man and deserves respect for his accomplishments.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
  34. FedUp With Lies from Losers

    Poor baby Andy just couldn't beat him. Lance was and has always been CLEAN. The USADA tests proved that, and yet, the politics kept up the battle of stupidity. For all those who pretend to know squat, Lance will always be a hero, and he is and always was clean. Unlike Andy. Yeah, we don't talk about that test, do we, Andy.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Irritated with Idiots

    Shen is an idiot. Its been proven that you cant ride those times without doping? Like its impossible to run a 4:00 minute mile as was stated by idiots like Shen at the time it was broken. Interesting that the fastest time records in the tour de france arent owned by armstrong. Including a time by Greg Lemond back in the 80's so I guess Lemond must be on EPO also. Oh wait it wasnt available then.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • FedUp With Lies from Losers

      I heard somewhere that Andy's tests weren't clean, but of course there's no proof. Idiot.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Turbogato

    "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." ―Harvey Dent

    August 25, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
  37. mclopes

    Has anybody here participated in competitive sports? Has anybody heard of GNC? What about football, baseball, basketball, etc.?
    Athletic enhancing drugs are part of American sports as apple pie is American. It is very easy to go after the athlete when the real pushers are never mentioned.
    Sponsors are always demanding results, like any other job, and if you want to keep yours, you will make sure you get some.
    Even spectators are to blame, always asking for wins no matter what, winning at whatever cost is taught by parents and coaches every day at very early ages.
    Lance is accused of blood transfusion (His own blood collected when the level of oxygen are really high), then they keep it and put it back after a race to prepare for the next day, no drugs involved.
    I think you all should stop being hypocrites and try to put yourselves in his shoes. I doubt anyone would have done differently given the chance.
    He is the best and he will always be. For those who think they own the truth, keep your opinion for yourselves, keep watching WWF (the only real sport in your little minds) and leave cycling for those who understand it.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • freelanzr

      Nailed it.

      August 26, 2012 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
  38. Torin

    pete -First off, to say that Lance was "unheard of" coming into the 1995 Tdf is absolutely categorically incorrect. he won a stage in the 1993 Tdf, was the 1993 World Champion, US Champ, and by that point in his career in 1995, was a solid rider within the peleton. To say he was "unheard of" is wrong. Unheard of by who?

    And what is so "unheard of" about him winning a stage after a 20+ mile breakaway? Again, in cycling, this is not out of the ordinary. As an "avid" rider, you'd know that most individual time trials are 20+ miles, full gas. And many, many stages are/were won after long(er) breakaways. I don't believe for a second that you were as skeptical as you say back in 1995. Did you say "wow" when Pantani was flying up the mountains? When Indurain was time trialing? Jalabert sprinting?

    Don't sit here, 17 years later, and pat yourself on the back for "putting the pieces together" to something that, by your own account, you don't know much about.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  39. al

    he can take his $150,000,000.00 and have a great life.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Kevin Smith

    The only person in this world who know whether Lance Armstrong is telling the truth is Lance Armstrong. The fact is, he passed every drug test he was ever given. I'm not sure how someone could do that if they were doping. At some point, I think it would have to show up on a test. But all of this aside, what he's done with his Livestrong Foundation is inspiring. He's become a different kind of hero to millions who are suffering from cancer, and his role with the organization transcends medals and awards. So let's assume the worse-case scenario – that he did dope. Well, maybe he's really here to do something bigger.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Paulie

      Story: Armstrong had six positives from 1999 tests
      By Sal Ruibal, USA TODAY

      Google that story. That is in one year alone. No way that he came back from cancer and still cycled professionally without MANY performance enhancing drugs. Lance is and always has been a cheater. He wasn't even a subtle cheater, everyone with any common sense could see. If Lance was clean, so are the guys in the WWE and NFL.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • FedUp With Lies from Losers

        Big (well, that's sure a lie), you really don't know anything about the tests the USADA gives, do you. His all came back clean. All of them.

        August 25, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Azordie

        Apparently YOU didn't read the whole story there Paulie. "The paper even admits in its own article that the science in question here is faulty and that I have no way to defend myself," Armstrong said in a statement released late Monday night. "They state: 'There will therefore be no counter-exam nor regulatory prosecutions, in a strict sense, since defendant's rights cannot be respected.' I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs."

        Armstrong has been at odds with French doping officials and media since his 1999 win, but he never has been linked to a positive test, a point he emphasized in his prepared rebuttal.

        So he's got to be a cheater. fools lol go back to watching HBO

        August 25, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • chan

      Give me that type of success and I can be better hero than that.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Optimus_Prime

      There are masking agents for doping tests that are well known in the industry and for the right price.
      That's why athletes are required to leave their drug tests samples from races for a period of at least 10 yrs.
      so that superior anti masking agents can be developed rrom advances in technology.
      The samples are then retested with the new screening process.

      All Armstrong had to do was go to the arbitration hearing to look at the evidence and make his case.

      He chose the PR route of allowing his supporters to believe it's a 'witch hunt'.
      He absolutely has the dollars to afford a legal battle with the USADA, but knows the evidence is there from the
      new screens and eyewitness testimonies from his colleagues.
      Better to be quiet and plead 'witch hunt' than be exposed as a 'cheat'.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter S

      In my opinion we have to look at what he did in each tour. As a tour cyclist you have to have multiple things fall into place to win a tour. There are many factors that can win or lose you a tour. In witnessing his tour wins I saw how many near tour losing incidents could have stop his streak. He was THE most tested athlete period. He had a great work ethic focused on one thing, the tour. His focus on the tour, great teams and luck is why he won not doping.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • honest abe

      "The only person in this world who know whether Lance Armstrong is telling the truth is Lance Armstrong" – or any of the people who claim to be eyewitnesses to cheating, selling steroids or other PEDs, etc.

      "The fact is, he passed every drug test he was ever given. I'm not sure how someone could do that if they were doping." – First, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. He didn't get caught (keep reading, though). You also have to remember that "blood doping" will NOT show up on any test because it's an autologous donation in which "fresh" or "rested" blood is later injected back into the athlete when he or she is fatigued and would benefit from a supply of red blood cells. Second, Lance's team has been very careful to parse this. He hasn't ever been sanctioned from a failed test. There have been several allegations of failed tests, including one at the Tour de Suisse that coincided with Lance's donation of $100k to UCI. IN WHAT OTHER SPORT DO TESTED ATHLETES MAKE CONSIDERABLE ON-THE-FLY DONATIONS TO AGENCIES CHARGED WITH TESTING THEM?

      Just about everyone he stood with on the TdF dais in Paris has been impicated in some form of cheating. It's hard to believe that with all the other leaders doping that he was able to consistently beat them while being clean as a whistle. In fact, it strains all credulity even without considering that many of his ex-teammates were involved in cheating and nearly all of them have implicated Lance as being involved in cheating AND in supplying and assisting others.

      August 25, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
  41. noliah

    Men on bikes going round and round. Meh.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
  42. travis

    After five to seven investigations and inquiries into whether or not he cheated and all were dismissed, some pencil pushing office jockey decides to continue to persecute a man that has done the unthinkable and unimaginable. To over come cancer makes him a champion. To train two to three times harder than anyone in a sport just to become competitive after such a traumatic ordeal makes him super human. Forget the titles, they are just paper. Forget the trophies, they are just for the shelf. This man has NOTHING more to prove to himself or his family or any of the people who have pushed themselves beyond their own believed boundaries because of him. He has lived the life of a champion and by not entertaining any further persecutions makes him a champion once more.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Le Chat

    Once upon a time, a smart person said in a movie: "Athletics are for idiots." I tend to agree with that.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
  44. CGannaway

    ALL professional cyclist should send Lance a sincere THANK YOU card for what he has done for their sport and their livelihoods. Sponsors, TV, the BOOM of the Tour De France in America and in Europe, bike companies, sports drinks, cancer survivors, the state of Texas......and on and on and on......should all be thankful for his tenacity and non-human performances, which he has been doing since he was 16 years old. Read his books, understand the boy that grew into a man and a world champion. Dope or no Dope.....the hypocrit list is a very very long one in this sport !

    August 25, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Towanda

    I don't know what is correct and to tell the truth – I really don't care anymore. I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm sure he is tired of the whole mess too. I don't watch bicycle races anyway. Enjoy the rest of your life Mr. Armstrong – you are making a positive contribution for a lot of needy people. Thank you for that. Good luck to you and your family with your future.work, generosity, and concern for others.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      I totally agree with your thoughts. I loved to watch Lance and the Tour de France. Between Greg LeMond and Lance they changed the sport here in America. Now this witch hunt by the USADA is unfounded and ridiculous and has worn on me and I'm tried of hearing about it. Just a few months before, the Justice Department dropped charges for lack of evidence. Lance, I hope you can relax and enjoy the rest of your life. You are an example for the people who are fighting cancer everyday. Keep up the good work.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Paul in Virginia

    Jan Ulrich said in an interview circa 2003 why Lance won.
    He was being interviewed while drinking beer and called Lance on his cell phone.
    Lance was riding his bike.
    Lance did two things no one else on the Tour did.
    1. He trained from September until the Tour, with one goal – winning the Tour.
    2. He hired a team, not a group of individuals, who all had the same goal. Make sure Armstrong won the Tour.
    I watched races where his competitors had their team abandon them. You can't win against a true team without a team of your own.
    And would he take drugs after the Chemo was over? I've been through chemo. Twice. I HATE drugs. You have to twist my arm to get me to take Motrin or Tylenol. I'm not buying that he took anything. After the chemo, three things changed for him: body structure (he lost his upper body weight and never regained it), his humility (many people said he was a jerk in the early 90's), and his work ethic / discipline (he rode up Huez TWICE IN ONE DAY to get a better feel for the mountain. That's serious discipline and an incredibly high pain tolerance.

    Doping rules should have 36 month drop dead limitations so that people can stop worrying about someone harassing them a decade later. This isn't DNA evidence being tested now that we can actually test DNA. This is someone looking at a blood sample from 10 years ago and deciding that the blood came from someone that was using. Not by finding the actual drug, but by saying his blood looks like he used. I'm 15 years out of chemo and still have weird issues with my blood. Trust me, you can enough prescription drugs and your blood is never truly normal again. Ever.

    In my mind, he will always be a hero and a great rider.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • JHallina

      Agreed. I also think that you can't retroactively go back that far and say much of anything. He was cleared to race. If we could go back and snatch medals from former Olympians based on suspicion of doping, all hell would break loose!

      August 25, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cat

        They can go back and take Olympians' medals and all hell has not broken loose. The samples are kept for eight years and can be retested as testing improves. I think that's how Marion Jones lost her Sydney medals and I think her relay teammates also lost their medals even though she was the only one who tested dirty.

        Sorry, but where there's so much smoke there must be some fire. I want Lance to be clean but I think he's dirty.

        August 25, 2012 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • E-man likes Lance

      Paul in Virginia – You are so right on! If you have followed Lance's cycling career from day 1 of Tour win #1, you know what Paul posted is absolutely true. The mind of a Man who was almost Dead can do amazing things...much more than the mind of a person who is just trying to make a living riding a bike. Lance is a Hero to many, and nothing USADA, WADA, or any other made up agency says or does can take that away.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ellie

      Well said. Didn't he have a brain tumor? What if they find out that the brain tumor affected his ability to tolerate pain better than most? Had ANYONE ever thought of that??? Even Lance Armstrong himself??

      August 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
  47. su3385

    If the test is negative – it's negative! End of story! They couldn't get Clements. They coundn't get Bonds! So they had to get someone, even if they have to lie to do it! And the blogger & other back-stabbers are just a bunch of whiners who are afraid the witch-hunt will target them next.

    August 25, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • AAAhahaha

      "If the test is negative – it's negative! End of story!"...assuming this statement holds true...I will let my child know that they are really not here... darn pregnancy test conspiracy! (I wonder if Bond's was just pregnant all along?)

      August 25, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Flea

    USADA said its evidence came from more than a dozen witnesses "who agreed to testify and provide evidence about their firsthand experience and/or knowledge of the doping activity of those involved in the USPS conspiracy,"

    And i am sure that you can find 12 people to tell you that Obama's birth certificate is fake as well. Nice job guys!

    August 25, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Boyd Crowder

    A pretty much IRRELEVANT sport in thr USA....and who cares....even for the post Armstrong Tour de France...

    August 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • AAAhahaha

      Sports are irrelevant. Character is relevant. Armstrong is a fraud.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • perry

        Sports is irrelevant to what? Character is relevant to what? Sports is relevant to some things. Character isn't relevant to everything. Your argument is illogical.

        August 25, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Eric

    Lance is a hero for what he did off the bike. Coming back from cancer to compete at his level was amazing. We may never know how clean he was, but cycling has become the biggest joke in sports, so who cares. Cycling is a European driven sport and they never liked seeing him win on their biggest stage. He is a hero here to many, always will be.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • AAAhahaha

      A "hero" is an egomaniac? Really? His eyes are on the money – have you ever looked into the public financial statements of his charities? Do it...get back to me. And I live with cancer in my home... yea, not a fan. Fraud.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Kari

    His face says it all, he has that long time drug abuser look.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Pnut

    By our count, of the 21 podium finishers at the Tour de France during the period from 1999-2005, only a single rider other than Mr. Armstrong was not implicated in doping by a subsequent investigation," said Bock. "Yet, only a single one of these riders had a positive test with the UCI." Weak testing process. He never tested positive is a weak defense if you have any knowledge of the sport and inner workings.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Russ

      Its a fact, declaring the testing is weak is opinion, just guessing here but I can only guess you think the UCI are all idiots.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Pete

    Back in Summer of 1995, I remember watching a footage of Le Tour on ABC; Miguel Indurain was going for his 5th Tour title. Lance was pretty much unheard of on the 1994 and the beginning of the 1995 Tour. Then Casatelli died in an accident riding for Team Motorola. I remember watching the footage of Lance and few other rider that was a part of the breakaway from the peleton. Lance then broke away by himself from the breakaway ground with more than 20+ miles to go from the finish, unheard of. I said to myself, "wow" what the heck, how'd he do that? I was an avid rider myself and for someone to do that after a close to 100miles of riding hard in summer heat is difficult beyond belief. I put the pieces together from tescular cancer and the comeback, he was doping most of his professional cycling career.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Russ

      500+ tests all negative. That is a fact.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • AAAhahaha

        Sure...."proven" with outdated technology form years past...so all those convicted murders who have been proven innocent with updated DNA testing should stay in prison right? Updated technology unmasks fraud. Ooops Lance – technology caught up with you...give up! Good idea. Fraud.

        August 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
        • fired up

          fraud? your a fraud. comment bombing? nobody gives a crap about your opinion!

          August 25, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        Barry Bond – hundreds of negative tests. Roger Clemens – hundreds of negative tests. I could go on.

        August 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        You don't just cheat by taking steroids, you also must take measures to ensure that you pass the drug tests. That is part of the cheating.

        August 25, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
        • David

          Maybe the most useful comment I have read here for this story. Lance would not cheat, knowing that he would then get caught. The second stage (the coverup) was just as important as the first stage (taking the performance enhancing drugs).

          August 25, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        You don't just cheat by taking steroids, you also must take measures to ensure that you pass the drug tests. That is part of the cheating.

        August 25, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nathan smith

        Russ, you are a culible idiot. There have not been 500 test. If you believe that, then I have some prime Florida swamp to sell you. Don't worry, you can have the Easter bunny check it out. Idiot.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Greta

      Don't you guys realize the doping is what caused the cancer? Wise up.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
  54. AAAhahaha

    Armstrong's a fraud – always has been – has proven to be – will historically be. End of story. Fraud.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • TruthSayer


      August 25, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      It is sad that you have no ability to think for yourself. Lance turned up NEGATIVE on every test he ever took. NOW, years later, when the "samples" are tested, they are positive. What ever you are smoking, you need to stop. This is not an admission of guilt. WHY should he CONTINUE to spend his time & money in a battle he can't win. The USADA has PROVEN they will hound him to the ends of the earth. His hundreds of millions of fans, & he himself know what this is. And only gullible LOSERS, such as yourself believe in convicting a man when there is NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda F

      Live Strong! Never Give Up!....oh...er....until your *had*. Doper!

      August 25, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Patrick Avon

    500+ tests all negative
    After every stage and Tour win...a test...All negative
    The bigger issue is athletes will choose other sports. If someone as decorated as LA gets booted post ten years. Kinda hard to defend a test taken 10+ years ago...Who was the tester? Who oversaw the tester. Who oversaw the testing group? Etc. What athlete will take up cycling? Potentially having to defend their win/s with their own $$. Unlikely they had made the kinda $$ LA has. Bad bad Bad move for USADA...
    LA has done more post Tours then for the Tour. Ride on LA and Ride hard...Cancer needs you and American males need a role model with guts... Bigger fights need LA's.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Marilyn

    Innocent till proven guilty. Better to let 99 guity men go free than to convict one innocent person. That is what I was taught when I was back in school. There is no proof. 500 plus drug free tests. Seven Tour de France wins in a row were seen. The incredible work and training behind the scenes was not. The good Lance has done for the cancer community besides his work ethic says what kind of person he is, along with his knowing that it doesn't matter what the USADA thinks or anyone else.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jose

      AMEN to that

      August 25, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  57. rsg

    Its interesting that so many people assume that the USADA and the WADA have the goods on Lance Armstrong but yet the Cycling Union or the Tour de France dont believe them....Lets examine what so many dont get....One, being a cancer patient you will always have to take some sort of medication to surpress it.....two, any other medication in combination with it would probably cause all sort of problems.......three, he knew that and was told that by his doctors......Loosing so much mass from your body from cancer can create all sort of changes to your body and how chemically it changes.......Be aware that USADA and the WADA are under investigation..........By the way, if you know anything about chemistry and biology you would be smarter in your comments.....

    August 25, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      Maybe he got cancer due to the prolonged usage of performance enhancing drugs, have you thought about that at all?

      August 25, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • CanSur

        So you're saying I got testicular cancer from doing drugs? Better think again. I don't know if he did drugs, but I do know that I didn't...

        August 26, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
  58. David Gubitz

    Hes a disgrace,,,, he should be required to returnn all revenue he earned thru endorsements an absolute scum bag

    August 25, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
  59. lefty

    All that you have worked for all your life. Your legacy, your achievements. Not worth the effort? Or would the effort end up being disastrous for Lance. His decision was his best possible course. Are we fooling ourselves – believing that professional sports are clean. I have no problem with doping. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Take his title, so what, he will still be remembered as the Tour winner (7 times).

    August 25, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Sr dev

    Simple question... Why hasn't LA ever failed a doping test?

    The USADA, the French, the organizers of very event, have subjected him to hundreds of tests for years. He allegedly took the same banned substances all of the other dopers took. The same EPO, steroids, and HGH as all those who have lined up to alleged that he cheated but, who got caught and offered immunity for their testimony.

    If all they say is true, why have all his tests, by all those different labs, across all these events, come back negative? And why is the USADA focusing on 10+ year samples, when it's own policies call for 7 year maximums?

    August 25, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Laurie

    I still believe in Lance and his record of wins, I always will. That aside, what he and his foundation has done to bring a voice and a presence to CANCER is far beyond any of his wins. It has brought CANCER out in the open and showed it not shameful and there is a way to fight. Knowledge is a powerful thing and attitude is everything. LIVESTRONG !!!

    August 25, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Count Booige

    a bunch a dudes in skin tight undies riding bikes...hard sport, but doesn't mean I care to watch it.
    I think I'll stick to girs beach volley ball...or pole vaulting....now that's fun to watch!!! 🙂

    August 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
  63. ezmiller

    Here's a thought...USADA is admitting that Lance fooled them for over 13 years by passing over 500 tests. He was the most tested athlete in the world from 2000-2009, and yet WADA or USADA could not catch him. I guess Lance is even more "super-human" than most people already thought. He could train for the hardest race in the world, raise money for cancer patients, fight cancer himself, travel the world making motivational speeches, take care of numerous kids, date famous women, and work on never failing a drug test (that stuck) even though he was doping? Guy is Superman!
    So why doesn't USADA hire Lance to catch cheaters? he obviously knows what testers are looking for before they even know what they are looking for. Get rid of the morons they have at USADA now and just put Lance in charge. Until he is proven a cheater in court, with physical evidence, or just flat fesses up, he should be listed as the Tour de France champion from 1999-2005. The good he has done for people with cancer and other life threatening diseases far outweighs any bad he supposedly has done.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • MariM

      The witch hunt was exhaustive and it would not have ended unless they said so and only after they had used up all of Armstrong's resources and defamed him completely. Cycling has been given a black eye and as a taxpayer there is better use for my money than to support a fascists organization full of jealous haters.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      With so much money generated by sports, doping is happening. The biggest problem in catching the cheaters is developing tests to catch designer steroids and performance enhancers. I give Lance Armstrong high marks for all his work with cancer patients and cancer research. However, sports-wise, I strongly think he cheated. Especially after reading the book Steroid Nation by Shaun Assael.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Fantastic Mr. Fox

    If you truly believe that Lance Armstrong is guilty, then all you probably need for proof is an attitude like Andy Chen:

    "He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement."

    Really? What does "pretty much" mean, Andy? Your guts says yes, but your brain says, "Stick to cycling. Journalism really isn't working out for you. At least the grassy knoll was more interesting." But that's not it! (We won't even quibble over the fact that he just throws that out there without trying to substantiate it.) Here's another little gem:

    "There’s been evidence of his doping. They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them."

    Really? Again? What "evidence" Andy? EPO cannot be reliably tested, dolt. They have to look for elevated levels of hemoglobin and hemocrit. Why won't the USADA release their testing records? And have YOU seen these tests? Another gem from ol' Andy:

    "There’s so much evidence over time that you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean."

    Annnnd...really? WHAT EVIDENCE? Someone pointing their finger is not exactly evidence, Andy. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, with tons of resources at it's disposal, didn't find enough to indict Armstrong, even AFTER reviewing the USADA's so-called evidence. And their one semi-reliable "witness" isn't even (oops, my bad grammar...) RELIABLE. Hence the reason that dolts like you that get so worked up over a non-issue.

    Armstrong came to his decision because it simply wasn't worth the effort (or cost) to fight a so-called "official" agency like the USADA. Get a grip.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • jdstanley

      As far as I'm concerned, the USADA should be burned to the ground. Actually, I'll settle for the ICS publicly telling the world that USADA has violated its mandate and to shove it's "Lance Armstrong Banning Order" back up it's USADA ass.

      The reason Lance decoded to stop fighting is because he's tired of the "Death of 1000 Cuts" attacks he's had to endure for so long.

      I believe people are innocent until "PROVEN" guilty. In this case the proof would be real documented failed drug tests. Heresy evidence isn't allowed in court – because it's junk.

      The USADA ruined any case they had when it started purchasing Hersey evidence against Lance Armstrong by offering "sweetheart deals" to proven drug dopers to get them to make doping claims against Lance Armstrong.

      How do you expect Lance to fight the USADA when it decided to rewrite the rules of what is "acceptable proven evidence" to give "Purchased" Hersey evidence the same weight as a failed drug tests.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jose

      well said

      August 25, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Anna

    may the light shine and from now on all the athletes and cyclists begin the honest games, do your best, know your limits, break your own limits, improve and move on, we must learn that we have nothing to prove to the world only to ourselves and honesty is the key issue here. when the person knows that they did their best and gave their 110% or more, the rest really does not matter at the end, because at the end you have peace, but now all the money and the titles in the world cant buy him that inner peace, can it?????

    August 25, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  66. lefty

    is partying and smoking on Duke's campus part of the regiment/training program? just 1 more toke – that's all.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Doug

    People are delusional

    August 25, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  68. JD

    I have a friend who had testicular cancer and lost one... his production of testosterone was reduced... obviously... and he lost a bunch of energy... Can anyone explain to me why Lance after loosing one too ends up being better than before and breaking all records? That does not bother anyone??

    August 25, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • One ball

      No, that's not obvious at all. I lost one as a teenager and it didn't effect my testosterone production one little bit.

      August 26, 2012 at 2:24 am | Report abuse |
  69. David

    So having a resting heart rate of less than 30 bpm is from drugs? Not likely, just like Michael Phelps Lance Armstrong trained vigorously to be the best at his sport.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Domenico

      Posted on incredible, that was a very good read. In coilnuscon, someone who actually thinks and understands what they are blogging about. Quite difficult to find of late, especially on the web . I bookmarked your web blog and will make sure to keep coming back here if this is how you always write. thank you, keep it up! .

      September 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  70. lefty

    100% correct (getoffmyback). will there be an * after Lance's name – or will it be erased. Hope they used pencil. haha

    August 25, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
  71. getofmyback

    Anybody notices similarities in the statements of LA and one Mr.Bonds....Neither says they have NEVER doped, but that they were NT caught in the numerous tests... really?

    August 25, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
  72. JD

    Thanks Andy, finally someone with the guts to say things like they are and dare to speak out about one of the biggest bully in sport history (ask Simeoni)

    August 25, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  73. apreynoldsjr

    Not deserved. He shall always be the 7 time winner of the Tour.

    August 25, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Duh!

      Duh. ok, people. Passing countless of drug tests in major events year after year, immediately after races and now there is an issue. Yes.. It does not pay to be...the best.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Doug

    What a fraud LA was! This guy lied and cheated for years. The only thing he gave was hope to all of these people who believed in him and it was just a house of cards.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • ShowTheEvidenceOrShutTheFkUP

      Prove it, show the test results for ALL of the races that shows he was doping.

      Otherwise, shut the fk up. Must be a liberal, jelous of someone that is better than you.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Lance Armstrong's left nut

    LIER LIER PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!!! I knew this guy was a lieng,doping pathetic execuse for a human.Gets his nuts chopped off,and cashes in on a billion dollar nike clothing line with bracelets made by poverty kids.I hate him,and he deserves every bad thing thats coming his way.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Grammar Police

      You sir, are in violation of flaunting your lack of intelligence. You are hereby ordered to cease and desist all future public displays of your stupidity.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eko

      . So, DID she know Russell was going to die? (HA HA) Who does she think she is GOD? What a total B and tool. Neber watched Medium etiehr now I'm glad I did nothing to make that witch richer. She really should have known how the dinner was going to make her look like a fool no?? I thought she was Psycho I mean Physic??

      September 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Report abuse |
  76. lefty

    Pnut – good call. I found that behavior pretty poor by Lance. That was a real piece of work. I also saw him do the same thing at the Tour de Geogia. He stopped a veteran of 12 years from winning his last race. bad.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Report abuse |
  77. 2boxers

    At that level they are ALL on something, even as a young teenager he was kicking everyones butt, he was simply better than all the other dopers. It's a witch hunt just like win congress went after a few baseball players and didnt touch any of the other sports (All of the other sports) where they are juicing, even when I was in High school in the 80's and College tons of athletes were doing it.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  78. David

    It is cycling. It is not important.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |

    What ever happened to responsible journalism? Andy Shen is an idiot. If Lances time trial times were "impossible without drug enhancement" how come they weren't even the fastest ever ridden in the Tour de France? Greg LeMond and Dave Zabriskie had the two fastest times ever. Neither one ever tested positive, but according to Andy they're guilty because they ride fast. And also CNN – shame on you for printing Andys comments as indicative of the cycling communities sentiments OR even as vaguely correct!

    August 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  80. scottosky

    Now the rumors and innuendos are swirling about Bradley Wiggins. No proof, no evidence, no tests coming back positive. Just hearsay, just enough to put doubts in the minds of many. Once this starts, it redifines everything.

    “Lance Armstrong is disillusioned and is up against an unjust process," he declared. "At a certain point there’s a disenchantment that sets in. Lance is saying to USADA, ‘Do what you want now, I don’t care.’

    “Lance was always very correct during his career. What more can he do? All the tests he’s undertaken, more than 500 since 2000, have come back negative. So, either the tests don’t count for anything, or Armstrong is legit. The entire process (against him) is founded on witnesses. It’s deeply unjust."

    -Eddy Merckx (VeloNews)

    August 25, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • will

      Merckx was found positive many times.Don't look to him for credibility.Belgian fans, as i am,have repudiated en masse Eddy's stance on this affaire.He's Lance friend and that is all.
      .Sadly we can't say the same of many (not all of course) american fans reactions,which have been beyond pathetic:

      August 25, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Pnut

    may you have peace, simeoni.


    August 25, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
  82. lefty

    Seriously, let them all cheat. Then this issue would be a non issue. All is fair in love, war, and sports.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Pnut

    Armstrong warned of doping controls.


    August 25, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Le Chien

    Andy Shen is hardly the voice of reason here. He's absolutely vulgar and it's really making some people sick. There's more than one doper on his bike team. Better get that testing implemented soon.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Pnut

    The UCI = frauds. The very organization responsible for marketing the sport was responsible for drug controls. Joke.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Walter Koroljow

    After more than 500 negative drug tests, this exceeds the norm for stupidity.

    How do we get rid of this idiotic agency?

    I am serious. What do we have to do to get rid of them?

    August 25, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Pnut

    index of armstrong's doping allegations:


    August 25, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Pnut

    By our count, of the 21 podium finishers at the Tour de France during the period from 1999-2005, only a single rider other than Mr. Armstrong was not implicated in doping by a subsequent investigation," said Bock. "Yet, only a single one of these riders had a positive test with the UCI." Weak testing process. He never tested positive is a weak defense if you had any knowledge of the sport and inner workings.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • CoolNeutral

      Fair enough, but then what, you consider the testimony of ten career cheaters in the twilight of their careers croning that Armstrong cheated too as what? evidence? IF these guys are going to come clean, then first, they need to buck up on both nuts lose anonymity and implicate each and every rider they saw/heard/rode with take PEDs too, otherwise they are just trying to save their own reputation and income...which isn't so different than Armstrong, is it? not to mention cowardly.

      August 25, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Walter Koroljow

    After more than 500 negative drug tests, this is more than stupid.

    We should get rid of this idiotic agency immediately!

    August 25, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Scott Lay

    He's a Hero. Will always be. And you cannot change that. So F Off.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  91. lefty

    Shakespeare – you are correct. He also tested positive at the Tour of Switzerland – just before the Tour de France. $25,000 donation to the WADA (world anti doping agency) somehow made those results disappear. He later gave $100,000 donation to the program. It's like Barry Bond giving money to the commissioner baseball – to look the other way.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • velogirl24

      lefty–prove it. Making sh1t up doesn't make it true. He tested positive for a small amount of corticosteroids aka Hydrocortisone, you know, the stuff in your anti-itch cream. And although it is a "banned substance" it doesn't actually lead to any kind of performance enhancement.

      August 25, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Craig

    Two words: Prove it.

    Do that, and I'll believe he cheated. If he's being accused, the burden of proof is on the accuser. Since none has been provided, he's still a 7-time Tour de France winner. Could care less if other cyclists don't like it.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sandra

      Craig, you are completely out to lunch.

      August 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • AnotherLiar

        You respond with NO evidence to support your remarks. All testing passed. And all you can say is people that beleive all the tests are delusioned.

        Your the moron

        August 25, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Layne

        If asking someone to prove their accusations means Craig is out to lunch, then the entire concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is out to lunch.

        August 25, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Tid Bit

    EPO is commonly used in people undergoing cancer treatments. Too much research has shown the lack of reliability of people's eyewitness testamony. I don't care if 100 people say they saw something. Majority rule does not make something true. He passed the tests that were used at the time he won. I do not think he should have his victories recinded. I agree with the previous poster who stated the agency has a guilty until proven innocent mentality. I do not blame him for "I'm done." There comes a point where, if he knows he didn't dope and he can live with that, then the hell with the rest of the world. Think what you like. We do LOVE to bring down our heros, don't we.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Rob

    Cyclists? plural? I see you quote one nobody. This government witch hunt sickens me. Where is the proof? All I've ever heard is that he's passed 500+ tests. Lance won 7 tours, regardless of what any CNN writer, beauracrat, politician, nobody writer says.

    What people need to ask now, do you want your health care run by the government? What will they retroactively take from you?

    Lance has done more for cycling than any boob cheering this 'news'. Lance is a good man in my books, the suits chasing him and demeaning him disgust me.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
  95. velogirl24

    Why in god's name would you print something like this CNN?!?!??! Andy Shen is a moron. Testing for EPO is questionable under the best of circumstances, never mind on a sample that is 13 years old! Andy Shen is a CAT 4 racer, basically one VERY SMALL step above a total FRED! He doesn't know crap about racing and he certainly does not represent the opinion of REAL racers! BTW I am a cat 1.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
  96. FactChecker

    The number one rule of sports - "If you're not cheating, you're not trying". When sports gets this serious it is nieve to think that a person who sacrificed everything for the sport would not cheat.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
  97. hamlet2b

    HELLO FOLKS! His urine sample from 1999 TdF tested POSITIVE for EPO when the test became available. It was not a "true legal test" but it was a positive test. (Amongst all the millions of other pieces of evidence).

    August 25, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
  98. lefty

    because all of the second and third place finishers for all 7 tours were also dopers, the UCI will probably assign "No Winner" for those tours. But the public – all over the world will still remember him as the winner. This is best.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      That's my only hope...that they don't make anyone else the winner by default then. There's no doubt doping has been (and, perhaps still is) rampant in the sport such that it would be a tall order to claim you could safely assume the folks further down on the placement list are really any better off. Maybe I'm jaded...

      August 25, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  99. RMc

    I'll be interested to see who accepts the newly appointed titles. Most athletes dont wanna win this way.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
  100. jtm

    IF Lance was doping, then so were all the other top riders. The playing field is always level....the top athletes train alike.
    There is no substance or medical procedure that will EVER allow a weekend rider like myself to come close to competing with Lance and boys. Or play basketball with Michael or baseball with Mickey or golf with Jack and Arnie. Lance is simply one of the best ever and could not have done it without hard work and a driven (arrogant, perhaps?) personality. Those of us who have managed to complete a hundred miles in less than half a day know just how amazing these riders are.

    August 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
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