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Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong
The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Thursday it will strip Lance Armstrong of seven Tour de France titles and ban the cyclist for life.
August 24th, 2012
09:08 PM ET

Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong

By Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

(CNN) - The reaction to Lance Armstrong’s announcement that he would no longer fight doping allegations was about as fast as his record setting winning times at the Tour de France. Armstrong may be stripped of every title he ever won and faces being banned from all competition for the rest of his life.

Andy Shen is a writer for the cycling website, NY Velocity, and a competitive cyclist here in New York:

[1:20] “He did ride at a speed that has pretty much been shown to be impossible without drug enhancement. There’s been evidence of his doping. They had retroactively looked at his blood samples from 1999 and found traces of EPO in them… There’s so much evidence over time that you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean.”

Armstrong’s remaining supporters still believe he’s the victim of a witch hunt. They claim his achievements are the result of superhuman capabilities. Shen sees a silver lining in this:

[3:12] "Among competitive cyclists, the hope is that as the truth comes out the sport will be able to clean itself up and face its past. And, you know, it’s pretty much acknowledged that the sport is cleaner than it ever has been."

In saying that he was finished with this "nonsense" and would no longer address the issue, Armstrong still did not admit any wrongdoing. He may still claim innocence, but to many in the cycling world, it was as good as an admission of guilt.

What do you think?  Does Armstrong deserve a lifetime ban?  Ring in with your thoughts in the comment section below.

soundoff (1,207 Responses)
  1. Greentj

    I don't know about Lance but the article has a deceptive headline and belongs in the National Enquirer.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
  2. Jerald Dilge

    10 years of fighting. Who pays for all this?? It makes sense for lance to give up fighting. His money can be used for useful things like his foundationl. Where does the USADA get their money to keep this going? What is the motovation for them? Sounds like some losers want to try to get even.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:20 am | Report abuse |
  3. scottvor

    "Cyclists say 'good riddance'...." screw you Andy Shen and shame on Steve Kastenbaum and CNN for posting this. One whiny bitter blogger means nothing. There's no denying there's plenty on evidence on the doping allegations but at what point do allegations mean conviction/disqualification.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      I couldn't agree more ,CNN is nothing but liberal , byiest punks, total incompetent fools

      August 26, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  4. Grummmmpy

    So much for innocent until proven guilty. This is guilt by speculation and without solid evidence. Oh...he MUST be guilty because he looks like it...or he's better than he should be so he's got to be guilty. It's a witch hunt for sure.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
  5. Sandy Velikonja

    ...ok ok so Lance "allegedly" took drug enhancing drugs....2nd, 3rd, 4th etc did not? Have we retested every single rider in each Tour de France... better yet have we tested his entire team or was it ONLY Lance with the tarnished halo? Get real, make this equal and test every single rider and bring everyone's name out. It's sickening to see one person chastised, as if he was the only rider in the Tour.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
  6. onlyforbrian

    For all those here defending Lance Armstrong, as a fellow cancer survivor, I was 110% behind Lance in the beginning, and applaud his work in that area, but I can no longer defend him on these charges. For me, the evidence is too overwhelming. Not one, but several blood samples showed EPO, more than one fellow cyclist claim they shared drugs with Lance, and others claim he admitted using. Are they all liars? As fellow riders, they consider themselves "family" and would be the first to defend Lance if the accusations were unfounded. The fact that more than one is pointing the finger at him , shows me that the truth points to his guilt. These are professionals making the claim, not neighborhood thugs.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Adidasle

      @onlyforbrian why do you believe the cycling community, professionally at least, is like a "family?" if anything these guys have repeatedly stated they are bitter enemies.

      Everyone is missing the bigger issues which is that USADA is overstepping their authority to strip TdF titles.

      August 26, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Vagabond

      These are also men that have been caught doping (at least the ones that are being mentioned) and are being offered amnesty or as I like to call it are being extorted for their testimony. Even if LA doped does that give the USADA the right to bully their way into convicting a man that always passed the tests he took? They are not only desperate to convict a legend but they are adding to the negativity of the support with their vindictive witch hunt.

      August 26, 2012 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
  7. davejjj

    The sport is now dead. Maybe they will want to wait and announce the winner of each race ten years later? How stupid is that? They drug test constantly and yet the tests don't accomplish anything.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:15 am | Report abuse |
  8. Daniel

    Witch hunt or indisputable evidence...I don't give a damn for either side of the coin.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
  9. Lisa

    What an incomplete, biased article lacking in any supporting evidence to make your point. CNN, you really need to get your shit together.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
  10. Joe Blow

    Lance won on a level playing field ... all of the top riders were doping. If he doped and beat other dopers, he logically would have beaten them if they were all clean. His titles should be asterisked maybe, but taken from him, not a chance.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Amateurrider

      Lance has been blowing competitiors away before he reached puberty. If he needed "the juice" to blow the field away in the Tour de France he certainly did a world class job hiding the results of an equal champion number of drug tests. Regardless, what he is doing in Livestrong more than makes up for an event that has turned into an advertising circuis anyway...albeit one that I will watch every year! If all true Cadel Evans and Brad Wiggins (so far) will be the only clean winners since 1998?

      August 26, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
  11. cydne35150

    Just purchased and plan to wear 7 Livestrong bracelets. 'Nuff said!

    August 26, 2012 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
  12. Orphean

    Imagine being in a job where you're the top performer causing jealousy. You pass every drug test given to you...hundreds of them...but you get called in to your boss' office one day and he fires you because some workmates claim they've seen you doing drugs. Then you'll know how Armstrong feels.

    August 26, 2012 at 9:05 am | Report abuse |
  13. Jim

    It's clearly apparent that professional Cyclists are a bunch of vindictive little bitches. The most tested athlete in history gets taken down as a result of hearsay brought forward by guys who got caught, and who now have an axe to grind. Where's the science that Lance used?? Where's the scientific evidence?? That's what I thought....I don't blame Lance. This has been a witch-hunt since day one that isn't worth the time or effort...

    August 26, 2012 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
  14. Off Piste Willy

    The real joke here is this article. "CyclistS say 'good riddance'..." Umm, to use the plural, you should quote more than one person. And who the hell is Shen? Never heard of him. Not to mention he has his facts wrong – in over 500 tests (the most tested athlete ever) Armstrong has never failed. NEVER.

    Steve Kastenbaum's article is about as poorly formed as the USADA's relentless persecution.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
  15. Greg

    Tear other Americans down out of jealousy, that's what Americans do best. Green, green, green with envy all you can't-do-ers. Shame. LiveStrong!!! Don't let the couch potato Tour winner wannabes get you down, Lance!! 500 drug passed drug tests later, you are an American Hero!!!!

    August 26, 2012 at 8:57 am | Report abuse |
    • OldTexas

      One of the problem with todays world is some folks can't seem to tolerate heros. Anyone who does something exceptional has to be torn down, stripped of their achievements and denied the recognition and honors they have worked to achieve. You see heros encourage other individuals strive for exceptionalism and individualism runs contrary to the grain of the world of uniformity and social obedience being fostered by social engineers.

      Well, in Texas we still believe in heros. Men like Roger Clemens and Lance Armstrong will continue to be honored, individual exceptionalism is still encouraged and the spirit that once made America great still thrives under the Lone Star.

      August 26, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
  16. gglenn

    So is everyone who passes all the tests disquialified? Who wins those 7 titles? Will their blood be retested 10 yrs later and whatever the result, will they be disqualified? In the 1600s they would hold a suspected witch's head under water. If she drowned then she was found innocent. Seem s similar.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:51 am | Report abuse |
  17. garc

    Whether he did it or not, it's OVER. He's not really competing anymore. Haven't they wasted enough time and money on this? It's past the point of looking vindictive now. Why not simply continue to do what is being done now – coming up with better ways of detecting steroid use in athletes – and let it GO rather than wasting so much tme, effort, and money?! Furthermore, the headline is misleading – how can you say 'cyclists' say good riddance if you've only interviewed one?

    August 26, 2012 at 8:46 am | Report abuse |
  18. Amy

    "Cyclists" say good riddance to Lance Armstrong? That's your headline and you quote one writer/cyslist from a cycling web site who no one has ever heard of? Great job, CNN.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
    • chris

      Haha I try my hardest not to get drawn into these comment postings but I was thinking the same thing. Way to say that all cyclists believe this way. I wish there were some line drawn in these titles.

      August 26, 2012 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
    • coporate greed

      My thoughts exactly! Well said!

      August 26, 2012 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
    • coporate greed

      My thoughts exactly! Well said!

      August 26, 2012 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
    • fran

      USADA should visit every NFL locker room. Does anyone really think that some of the muscles and speed we see on the footballs fields are gained in the gym?
      Are you serious?

      This is a calculated attach on an elitist sport that very few care about. Cycling is obscure; the cyclists themselves are not protected and the sport itself is grossly misunderstood in the USA.

      How many other sports celebrities have assembled an organization to the level of LiveStrong?
      Lance is a little cocky and arrogant – so are a few of my neighbors. Who cares!

      This is just another grandstanding lawyer and potential politician looking for a book deal, a movie and fame at the expense of someone who made a contribution.
      He'll be caught with a paper bag in a movie theater like pee wee herman some day.

      August 26, 2012 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
  19. TracySwingKid

    First, my opinion is probably tainted by the fact that I loathe "Mr. Fed Ex". He is a jerk that makes up nicknames for all of his acquaintances rather than call them by their actual names. After being handily beaten by reigning Leadville 100 king Dave Wiens in 2008, Loser hired riders to chase him down in 2009's match so he could win.

    Yes, Mr. Fed Ex trained for the TdF like no other rider. He focused on one race a year and he dominated. That being said, I also think he would stop at nothing to make sure he was the best, as exhibited by his Leadville douchbaggery. I am sure he took EPO because he never thought they would retro-test those samples. I also think he would have transfused his own blood sure that it would be untraceable. When asked if he doped, Loser repeatedly replies, "I have never failed a single drug test". If someone had asked me the same question I would be able to unequivocally reply, "I have never doped or used drugs in my life." Any detective or investigator will tell you that guilty people protest lack of proof, innocent people get angry.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Terrible Tom

      tracyswing kid...takes a douche bag to know one.....your ignorance is astounding.....take off your training wheels and try to think like you have a brain

      August 26, 2012 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  20. fred

    USADA – the republican arm of the sporting world

    August 26, 2012 at 8:34 am | Report abuse |
  21. JFT45

    Just like American politics. Do whatever it takes to win, cheating, lying - doesn't matter as long as you win.

    Lance Armstrong for congress. He's the perfect candidate.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
  22. Jake

    How can the "testimony" of a few cyclists who say they witnessed Lance Armstrong doping stand up to the Hard Evidence of 500+ passed drug tests? There are hundreds of men and women serving time based on someone's "testimony" only to be exonerated when the EVIDENCE proves otherwise. I think this was a witch hunt and Lance did the right thing by moving on. If he would have fought and won, there would eventually be new allegations, new witnesses and new charges.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Wayne

      Precisely. One must be proven guilty in this country. To the contrary, Andy Shen, there is a preponderance of evidence that indicates he is INNOCENT.

      August 26, 2012 at 8:36 am | Report abuse |
      • onlyforbrian

        Please give one example of his innocence that you quote, because I can give you half a dozen of his guilt. Not one, but several samples of his blood showed EPO, A couple fellow cyclists claim he shared drugs with them, and a few others said he admitted using...what? Are they all liars? These are professional cyclists, not neighborhood gang members.

        August 26, 2012 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
  23. leonard

    i have fought the same cancer he had, same chemo treatment also. the chemo he and i and numerous others took changes things that most males take for granted. when you go in before treatment , they ask you to save semen for future children because after taking this cocktail of drugs you are no longer the same. i wonder if all these tests take into account what you become after chemo therapy? ask any oncologist chemo at the amount he took and the changes it would do to your body. it has been 6 years for me and my blood work is still not normal for a man of my age. my oncologist is telling me that it will never be the same. so maybe in a warped sense what he went thru gave him an edge.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
  24. Cat

    READ THIS if you think US Anti-Doping Agents are playing fair. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20120825,0,2080853.column

    August 26, 2012 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
  25. Jae Luke

    Why do I pay taxes to fund the grants to the USADA? They spent more time accusing Lance Armstrong than checking the Olympic athletes they do have charter over! No confirmed positive tests, and requests to have Mr. Armstrong prove he was innocent? This organization spent millions of dollars for the sole purpose of stripping an American hero of his legacy. If the same scutiny is placed on his fellow riders of the Tour de France, would anyone win? Probably not, but USADA only oversees US atheletes. Who oversees the USADA? It seems clear that the USADA absolute power has corrupted absolutely and is in need of some regulation itself. I hope the UCI takes the USADA recommendations for what they are worth.... Nothing.

    This witch hunt was done in such a pulic forum, the USADA owes apologies to the UCI, the Tour de France, the athletes it has let down and especially Lance Armstrong.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:27 am | Report abuse |
  26. glenview0818

    I really like how a hand full of riders caught using ped's or blood doping are pointing the finger at the most tested athlete in history, only to make themselves look better. Since when are people guilty exclusively on hearsay evidence, and since when do US organizations have jurisdiction of French cycling events. If you have ever wondered why the French think we are arrogant, just write this one down so you can refer to it the next time we need them to agree with us on a United Nations directive and they don't.

    Lance Armstrong will always be my hero, for all he has done for the sport and cancer research, no matter what any government funded group says.

    USADA has shown it’s colors and I will do what ever is necessary to end it’s government funding.
    .

    August 26, 2012 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
  27. Charlie Weaver

    As much as I want to believe what Lance says, I just can't bring myself to it. That said, stripping him of his titles is over the top. If they couldn't catch him at the time – like with Landis – then all's fair game.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:20 am | Report abuse |
    • JFT45

      It's apparent that he cheated. That's fair game?

      August 26, 2012 at 8:30 am | Report abuse |
    • renee

      That's bull shit, that's like saying if you can't catch someone in the act of murder it's fair game. The guy cheated and it's about time he face his past. hopefully he can live the rest of his life honestly

      August 26, 2012 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
  28. tcaros

    He stopped fighting because HE I GUILTY.

    They found masking agents in his blood. That means he was deliberately trying to conceal the use of steroids.

    He's a cheat and a loser.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:19 am | Report abuse |
  29. mislead

    Uhm, who is Andy Shen, and how do his comments represent those of "cyclists"? Nice misleading title for a nobody.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      There are at least 50 other posts here dedicated to this misleading title. Here is another take on USADA http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20120825,0,2080853.column

      August 26, 2012 at 8:24 am | Report abuse |
  30. Tyrone GT Freeman

    I never really saw the riding of bicycles in a race against other adults in colorful tights as a sport. If there was an age limit of say 12-14 it would be kind of neat. Maybe a junior Olympics. Over here: racing a bicycle against friends. Over there: see who can hang the longest from the monkey bars. And don't forget the teeter totter. The 90's was the cheating decade. Once you let that little crack in the wall appear, all the crap that you kept at bay is allowed to be exposed, and fester, and turn into a large pus sack.

    August 26, 2012 at 8:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Clive

      GT Freeman:
      You do not make any sense!

      August 26, 2012 at 8:26 am | Report abuse |
    • martin

      c'mon dude, you can say that about any sport: golf is just hitting a tiny ball with a stick, basketball is just throwing a ball into a hoop. a marathon is just, well, running. like many modern sports cycling in a race against the clock and it requires the use of a complex machine. sure it's just a game, but so is all sport. if bicycle racing is invalid, so it the rest of it.

      August 26, 2012 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
  31. Chris Higgins

    You guys are idiots for putting an article like this on your page. It has not been proven by anybody that Lance Armstrong ever took anything, except for his cancer treatments.

    It's funny that the moment somebody trains hard, wins and makes others look weak that everyone screams "DRUGS!"

    Get off your high horse and do the work to win like Lance did!

    August 26, 2012 at 8:08 am | Report abuse |
  32. Tony

    It really doesn't matter the sport, cycling, football, baseball. You're just a few injections away from a multi million dollar contract or taking a job at Lowes, What do you do?

    August 26, 2012 at 8:08 am | Report abuse |
  33. Ty

    Not sure what cyclist YOU are talking to but it sounds like a bunch of weekend wheelsuckers! Once deified now a martyr! Viva La Lance!

    August 26, 2012 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
  34. Paul Brawner

    I absolutely believe he used performance enhancing drugs. Perhaps not to the extent that other top riders did, but I absolutely believe he did use something to help him. That does not shock me. The world of professional cycling has been rife with drug use for many years, and there is very strong indication that many or most of the riders are using something at any given time. There are numerous ways to mask or avoid detection of certain chemicals. That has been known for years. The tests weren't always conducted correctly, or conducted to look for the right substance. That fact has been known for years. He may have passed a lot of drug tests but it still doesn't mean he was clean. Far from it.

    I absolutely believe there is strong evidence that he used PEDs. This decision doesn't make sense in light of the position he has held for so many years. I just don't buy his story that he got tired and didn't want to fight anymore. His entire persona and reputation is built on the premise of fighting the challenge, not quitting because it's getting tough. It was all going to be wrapped up very soon, and he knew that. The evidence would have been available for him to challenge openly. He has known all along that they were coming after him, and up until the point he quit he maintained he would fight the allegations. He has felt, and openly stated, since the beginning of this issue that he wasn't going to get a fair shake. He filed lawsuits. He used the media to his advantage to maintain his innocence. He maintains that position right up until the point where all of the evidence will be put out in the open. I cannot imagine a scenario where a person of his reputation, who is adamant of their innocence, spends years vowing to fight to maintain their innocence but suddenly quits the fight just as the evidence against them will become public. I simply do not believe his claim that he doesn't feel he's going to get a fair shake with arbitration. He knew that all along. He has said so on numerous occasions.

    I would also add that he spent many years around a lot of people (cyclists, doctors, trainers, etc.) who were administering and/or using various performance enhancing drugs. I do not believe that he didn't know that was happening. I do not find it feasible that a person as smart and astute as Armstrong could be exposed to that environment for so long and not see the things that were going on around him. I believe he had to know about it but chose to look the other way. He's never said a thing about drug use by other riders on his team, yet there are many who were right next to him using drugs. I find it extremely hard to believe he was able to resist all those forces for all those years and maintain a clean body. He is human and I believe he erred, as all humans do.

    I think Lance Armstrong is one of the good guys in our world, and I think he is an incredibly strong rider. He clearly is in the top 5% of world class riders in terms of ability. strength, focus, commitment, etc. He deserves tremendous credit for fighting back against a cancer that could have killed him. And he deserves tremendous credit for the incredible effort and sacrifice he has personally committed to creating and building the Livestrong Foundation. If only half our gov't could do so much. What a difference THAT would make! I am happy to give him those accolades because he rightfully deserves them, and as a cycling fanatic and Christian I am happy to forgive him for his transgressions. He is NOT a loser. He is human.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      Excellent post!

      August 26, 2012 at 8:27 am | Report abuse |
  35. Dan

    I spent maybe two minutes total over the last twenty years watching tdf races. I dont care about biking, but this has been an interesting story to watch unfold. Since the sport appears to be almost 100 percent saturated with dopers, it would be redicoulous to think that lance hadn't done it himself. The flip side of that is there is no concrete evidence in the form of failed drug tests that can be provided by anyone. As someone that doesn't care about this one way or the other and can be objective, it's pretty clear that the USADA is overstepping its bounds. It almost seems like the CEO of the USADA has a personal vendetta against Armstrong.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:53 am | Report abuse |
  36. The fact of the matter

    Cyclists say good riddance to Armnstrong? They're not cyclists. They're wannabes. Lance is the only real cyclist in the lot.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
    • mrdirt

      Lance was tested more than any other athlete in the world (approx 600+) times right after evey win and stage, and off season. So now they find new evidence or traces going back to 1999. Blood can only be kept for a period of time before it becomes unusable for use or to get proper testings. Could those old samples been tampered with? were they kept in a
      secure area for 14 yrs?

      August 26, 2012 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  37. WB Mom

    This whole thing only makes the sport look like it cannot police itself. Really, you have something like this going on for literally years, and no definitive results? Take the money spent in lawers and put it towards a drug screening program. I ride horses, and our sport has to test the athletes AND the animals. If the FEI can have the protocol for testing horses down to a T, cycling should be able to have it down for humans. Geesh!

    August 26, 2012 at 7:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Kim from Pgh

      You are living in a fantasy world if you think horse racing is clean.

      August 26, 2012 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  38. Ken

    Does anyone remember Joseph McCarthy and his which hunt back in the 50's?

    August 26, 2012 at 7:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      Sorry. That should have been "witch".

      August 26, 2012 at 7:31 am | Report abuse |
  39. heme

    Let's make sure everyone has the same HGB and HCT at the start of the race. Should those with higher numbers be bled down so all are equal? Who cares about epo use?

    August 26, 2012 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
  40. Pnut

    21 podium finishers in 7 years. 19 implicated for doping (now 20) and only 1 of the 19 actually "tested" positive. this isn't a "witch hunt" and USADA has lived up to their mandate to protect clean athletes.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:24 am | Report abuse |
  41. Danathome

    The USADA didn't give Lance the awards so what makes them think or gives them the authority to take them away?

    What about all the "2nd place" who did test positive, are they all taken out of the race as well?

    This is about government gone bad and wasting tax payers money!

    August 26, 2012 at 7:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      Because they are arrogant SOB's. I think some anti-doping agency from a Euro country should strip Roger Clemens of all his CY Young Awards because he has an accuser. Think MLB would have something to say about that? The CAJONES on USADA!

      August 26, 2012 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
  42. Who Cares

    Much to do about nothing. Who cares about bike riding anyway. I have a Lance yellow bracelet and I will continue to wear it.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:16 am | Report abuse |
  43. RJ

    The USADA's actions have been successful: a week ago, nobody knew the name Travis Tygart. Unfortunately for Tygart, USADA, Lance and the sport itself, everyone now sees an agency that has no respect for its own rules, no concept of of the scope of its own authority, no respect for its own tests, and no idea of fairness or due process.

    August 26, 2012 at 7:09 am | Report abuse |
  44. Pnut

    A protected man, indeed. The UCI looked the other way when it came to monitor doping because the UCI was also in charge of marketing the $$$port. During Lance's 7 tour appearances 99-05, 19 riders implicated in doping (now 20) and only 1 of those riders actually tested positive. The line "he passed all 500 tests" is a rumor that started with Lance and his PR team, some of whom are on this comment thread. Let's see all 500 test results.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-armstrong-hotel-search-cancelled-in-2005

    August 26, 2012 at 7:08 am | Report abuse |
    • greg

      Floyd is that you? Seems I remenber you being on the podium and getting caught, it must be yourself you are talking about.

      August 26, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  45. Claude

    A terrible witch hunt .. What about the second place guys and third place guys?? To think that they were as clean as Lance is absurd.. Why are they not subject to the same retroactive scrutiny?? This is like stripping auto racing titles because the cars of a few years back didn't meet the current safety regulations.. Absurd.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob Hughes

      Lance again shows us how to take a calculated risk and win. The USADA has no control over the UCI or the organizers of the Tour and they are the agencies that get to say whether or not he gets to keep his titles. In turn the USADA doesn't want to release its evidence because it would appear for the most part to be circumstantial (based on what the USADA has released). I have little doubt the USADA was going to find Lance guilty, quite honestly they have spent to much money on the case to find him otherwise. So, if the USADA doesn't turn over to the UCI what it has, Lance keeps his titles...end of story.

      August 26, 2012 at 7:12 am | Report abuse |
  46. Bob

    Over 500 tests and not one positive. It is a witch hunt plain and simple. I don't blame him for throwing his hands up in disgust, and giving the USADA the finger!!

    August 26, 2012 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
  47. mabecane

    He's no winner, he cheated other riders. UCI will strip him of his Tours wins. Thanks to him we suffered thru seven boring Tour de France. Allez du balais.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Acquired Brain Injury

      No evidence whatsoever. All opinion over science. USADA is just trying to justify its existence. They are a joke.

      August 26, 2012 at 7:44 am | Report abuse |
  48. N@TuRn3r

    Many of you are dillusional. It's a tough pill to swallow, but such doping allegations are rarely made in error because the evidence is so overwhelming. For Armstrong, it was a calculated risk. Milk the fame while it lasts knowing you won't be found out until years after you retire and no one really cares anymore.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:35 am | Report abuse |
  49. BigBilll

    It is a power grab by the USADA to investigate Armstrong in the first place. The USADA is only charged with investigating U.S. athletes participating in Olympic and Pan American games. It has no authority to regulate professional cycling or the Tour de France.

    As far I can read from their news releases, the USADA only did a red blood cell count on Armstrongs blood and judged that there were too many red blood cells. You can achieve this by training at high altitude or sleeping in an oxygen reduced environment, both of which Armstrong did. The only other "evidence" is testimony by known dopers, who plea bargained reduced penalties in exchange for "evidence" against Armstrong.

    Armstrong refused to participate in the Kangaroo court where "guilt" or "innocence" is assessed by a "judge" chosen by USADA. By refusing to participate in the charade, he has gained my respect not lost it.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:33 am | Report abuse |
  50. RobotMonster

    Lance just "shook the dust from his feet" and has moved on. He choose not to participate in a Joseph Stalin style process.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
  51. Johnny

    No it's not an admission of quilt. If proof exists it should still be brought forward by the people ithat think it's important.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:22 am | Report abuse |
  52. CBB

    The USADA can not take away LA Tour de France titles – only the UCI can. If anyone watches what happens now – if someone tests positive they are excluded from that event and give a suspension (ie. the Olympic gold was awarded to a former positive suspended rider). Contador lost one title not all his tour de France titles.
    So what the #@&^ is the USADA going on about – they don't have jurisdiction to take away his tour winnings – the only thing they can (and assume will) take away is LA world title that he won over 18 years ago – far out don't these guys have anything better to do – who are they going after next – Babe Ruth?
    Makes the USA look so arrogant as a US based agency thinks they can take away the winning title to a event run by a different organization (UCI) in a different country (that is why it's called the Tour de France).

    August 26, 2012 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
  53. canoncritic

    Professional cycling is such an unnatural sport that we should expect cyclists to use unnatural means to succeed. Does anyone–really now–think there is a professional cyclist in the Armstrong era who wasn't doping?! Is there really anyone who thinks that Armstrong didn't win on a level playing field? Please! Moreover, the sport, now clean (supposedly), will decline without doping simply because an unnatural sport competing by natural folks will be boring to spectators who expect otherwise.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:19 am | Report abuse |
  54. terri

    I agree with the U.S. courts – the sport has defiled itself by infighting. How can anyone respect an agency or group that so significantly reverses itself? It seems to me that all of the personnel of the USADA need to be replaced. Admitting you were wrong for so many years is admitting failure to adequately oversee your duties. Further, I have even less desire to watch sporting events knowing that the participants may be using drugs to win.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:18 am | Report abuse |
  55. Jason

    I believe Lance decided to 'stop defending himself' precisely because it was a fait accompli, whether he was guilty or not. Further, and likely more importantly, Lance seems to have more to contribute to life than trying to defend now decades old titles. His family and his charity are a thousand times more interesting and compelling in his life vs spending more years and tens of thousands of dollars in court...to what end?

    Leave him be. He does better work now than most people could even dream of doing!

    August 26, 2012 at 6:11 am | Report abuse |
  56. betty

    it seems a little late to go back, and strip him of the titles.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:09 am | Report abuse |
  57. john m

    I have suffered fighting bladder cancer for 9 years. I worked though the first 5yrs as a carpenter and did offshore fishing as a hobby.let me tell you that after going through some of the same things that lance did and considering the proximity of the cancer to that very unforgiving carbon fiber seat he spent so much time on, there is no way he ways able to do it without some kind drugs. If he did then I apologize lance, but if you did lance, stop lying and tell the truth, you owe it to all cancer patients that do fight the good fight, especially the children, what are you teaching them. No way lance, stand up and be a real man. Do not shame the rest of us who are real hero's, cancer survivors. And by the way, if your so superhuman why give up the fight now, this is easy compared to 7 titles, come on lanceshow some real b-lls.

    August 26, 2012 at 6:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Lance Armstrong is the last person on the planet who "Owes" cancer survivors anything. How soon you forget about the $500million he has raised for cancer research and awareness.

      August 26, 2012 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
  58. Angelo

    At the end of the day... He was a guy that rode a damn bike. Who gives a *hit. Seriously, it's a bike race. Who cares?

    August 26, 2012 at 5:25 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      Can say the same for football, a bunch of guys in tight pants throwing a odd shaped ball at each other. Who gives a *hit.. sports are sports you can always break it down to archaic who gives a *hit. Argument lost.

      August 26, 2012 at 5:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Dee

      Angelo your sofa and potato chips are calling join to join them for an intimate moment.

      August 26, 2012 at 7:50 am | Report abuse |
  59. Dan

    There's lots of evidence, which Lance declined to see presented in a fair and impartial setting. That's the point of arbitration. And as for this sudden fatigue in defending his name, let's not forget just three days prior he lost a court case to stop this process. A court case his lawyer had to re-file after the judge destroyed him for running a PR campaign with his first filing instead of making valid legal claims.

    August 26, 2012 at 5:16 am | Report abuse |
  60. kaneda

    Doesn't make sense, if you are using PED. Why would you let your teammates know? After your career is over, one em will always go to media...

    August 26, 2012 at 5:00 am | Report abuse |
  61. CDG

    This is total bull.... If, despite hundred of checks, there's no evidence I've never done anything that could have my life's accomplishments and my reputation ruined, but my life's accomplishments are anyway challenged by an unscrupulous agency led by someone driving a witch hunt, then I'd be madder'n hell. But, given that the USADA seems to have a bottomless pit of resources and taxpayer money to fund this nonsense, I might take the same route as Lance. Just say FU, believe what you want. Just let me get on with my life. -- Also, the article is titled, "Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong" Really? Read the article where Miguel Indurain said "Lance Armstrong should keep his seven Tour de France titles until drug charges are proven by a single authority recognized by everyone in the sport. Five-time Tour winner Indurain says "until an organization recognized by all decides to the contrary, the Tour victories are his."

    August 26, 2012 at 4:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      It was blood transfusion, testing yet not standardized at the time. Just like forensics advancements used in crime can solve a mystery that happened decades ago, similar advancements in testing used to provide evidence with Lance's cheating that happened in the 90's. Lance just got too greedy and kept going, as a Tour rider, we all know how difficult it is just to win a Stage which is a huge undertaking and some professional riders never even win a stage. For someone who was pretty much unknown on the international stage to become 7 consecutive Tour winner definitely raised a red flag. New testing procedures now just begun to surface.

      August 26, 2012 at 5:18 am | Report abuse |
      • lou h

        Lance was already and international racer and world champion. You don't know about what you are spewing.
        Lance was given EPO as part of his cancer therapy. What claim is anyone making here? It is politics ( money) plain and simple. Stop being so plain and simple.

        August 26, 2012 at 7:47 am | Report abuse |
  62. Some Young Guy

    Lance definitely doped. They all did. The tests back then weren't as advanced as they are now. Should we not clear prisoners who have claimed their innocence on crimes, even though new DNA analysis techniques claim otherwise? No, we let them go. In this case, it works the other way. His old samples are showing different results based on more advanced techniques. Some call it a witch hunt. Not me. He cheated his way to the top. The guy was hanging out with the main doping doctor while on tour, on many occasions. I guess it was for the great conversation. The sad thing is, he had to dope because everyone else did. That entire sport is bunk, unfortunately.

    August 26, 2012 at 4:24 am | Report abuse |
  63. nedro018

    wow. lot's of americans love LA. he passed me in a (ID) triathlon in 1986 when i was 25 and he was 16-18, i think. i got second to him, at the end, they said, he's not here, he's on his way up north for a BIG event. it was before he turned pro into cycling. i was averaging 25 mph on the flat course. when he passed me, he was gone in 5 min. i know he's an awesome athlete, doping or not doping. trouble is...this – some good athletes dont know that they DONT need to dope. do you understand. think about the facts. dont be a stupid american LA droid. be smart. think. so lets think: in the seven years that he WON the hardest race we have, all the racers who got 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to LA...over those 7 years...got busted. just not him. hmm. what to think? but! you're an amercian! as am i! everyone got busted...except LA. over 7 years. breathe slowly, naive americans. we love our heros. i do too. we all do. but no one loves a cheat...in the bed or on the road. no one loves a cheat. so the question is, was he a cheat? well, think about it...think...slowly. dont be an american and rush to judgment. what if your president was a cheat? or your boss? or your wife? or your friend? a cheat is a cheat. in any country. So, THINK. Can you do that? For a minute? Let's do so, now: the USADA has done in, a short order, what THE UCI “couldnt do” in 7 years...follow thru all the way. The UCI said LA “never tested positive”. For 7 years. But in a short order, the USADA got LA to say, “break”!
    What the USADA has done -that the UCI could not do over 7 years- is to bring out: It appears to be that what the USADA has against LA is “personal testimony” from teamates, not just urine sample results. The UCI “never” used this angle! Why? Over 7 years? Scores of 2nd/3rd/4th riders were busted, just not LA.

    I think ive spelled out enough for you. You dont like a cheat. Neither do i. Figure it out. On your next bike ride, or next wife, or next president. Good luck!

    August 26, 2012 at 4:08 am | Report abuse |
    • lou h

      Why so bitter and neanderthal in your post. You don't like Americans. fine just say that and don't spew forth such drivel and animosity.

      Post he tested off the scales for Lung capacity ( Indurian had HUGE lungs ). Think ....then spell it all out. Don't be bitter.

      August 26, 2012 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  64. chris

    I really don't know much about Lance Armstrong other than his notoriety outside the cycling world. But I do have to say that the notion his achievements just weren"t possible without doping is RIDICULOUS. In essence we need to exhume the remains of Babe Ruth who was actually referred to as super human for having set records long before the ball, the bats were juiced. Lou Gherig and Jesse Owens for the records they set. We need to subpoena Nadia Comanice and test her because of having scored the first perfect score in gymnastics. I could go on and on withe likes of Tiger, jRory, Usain jBolt etc. Or maybe we should force Lance Armstrong to compete on a bycicle that weighed twice as much or more and have him wear the cycling gear of 30 years ago. Michael Phelps should be made to swim in a full one piece swimming suit like Weissmuller. Much of todays accomplishments, sports or otherwise are achieved due to technology advancements and people would be a fool not to take advantage. Records are meant to be broken and acknowledged and celebrated otherwise they would just be footnote in an otherwise very dangerous and unstable world.

    August 26, 2012 at 3:55 am | Report abuse |
  65. John

    The head od the usada seems a little too young to be qualified as head an agency, based on this evidence I can say he must of sucked a lot of dick at d.c.

    August 26, 2012 at 3:35 am | Report abuse |
  66. callnews

    The court of hearsay, the media, and the grand quasi-governmental agency the USADA has spoken. Oh, and the United States Department of Justice determined that the evidence brought forth against Lance Armstrong was insufficient; but soap operas are so much more entertaining.

    August 26, 2012 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
  67. Tyler Durden

    got evidence? then present it for all to see. so far we've just heard jibberish but evidence speaks volumes. without tangible evidence, what do we have to talk about? hearsay is not admissible.

    August 26, 2012 at 3:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris M

      You apparently don't know what hearsay is. If someone testifies about something they saw, that is not hearsay. If someone testifies about a conversation they had with the accused, that is not hearsay. If someone testifies that the accused admitted to them that he/she did something wrong, that IS hearsay, but it is universally admitted into evidence as an exception to the exclusion of hearsay. So what, exactly, are you suggesting is not admissible?

      August 26, 2012 at 5:24 am | Report abuse |
  68. Mike

    Who cares? There are people dying in the world. Move on.

    August 26, 2012 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      love this guy, they can shove it... armstrong is the man! and THIS IS not strong enough evidence, you don't wait until years later to do something like this to somebody. and this "evidence" sounds more like it's coming from some jealous individuals involved in the sport. THE MAN IS A WINNER! NOW MOVE ON.

      August 26, 2012 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
  69. George Osborne

    Maybe every time someone rides or performs at a record pace, we should just assume doping, ban them for life and strip all titles/medals. Mediocrity rules...

    August 26, 2012 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
  70. Lloyd Burtander

    The USADA had their witch hunt. Now the other sports need to take down their stars. Start with baseball, probably every record broken was drug enhanced. it had to be. Just HAD to be because nobody is THAT GOOD – that's how the USADA thinks.

    August 26, 2012 at 2:35 am | Report abuse |
  71. Targa

    why is it that the these bureaucrats who have never been athletes themselves aren't happy until they tear somebody down. The USA always screams they need more heros but aren't happy till they destroy someones life. Forget about all the good he did. Idiots!

    August 26, 2012 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Jessica

      The whole point is he is not a hero, he is a cheater. He does not have super-human strength and because of his cheating, the cyclists that do not cheat have been deprived of their honestly earned great athlete status. If you do not believe that Armstrong cheated then you have some problem and are in denial. Why would other cyclists admit to doping if they had not and then accuse him of doing the same and providing the substances if he had not? The also lost their awards and their privileges. They have nothing to gain by lying about Armstrong. And give me a break- 7yrs in a row beating out highly trained younger very experienced guys that never had cancer? I wonder just how bad his cancer was anyway- I know men that have beat testicular cancer. That is not that amazing if you treat it early. He makes a lot of money from his foundation- lots and lots!!! He is not whom I want for my hero. He has harmed people just so he can have his self-centered 'look at me look at me" at others expense.

      August 26, 2012 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
      • clayton callandret

        if that's the case why wait so long to do this? if he was dirty in 1999 how come the test the took did not show it? this is some BS and they know it just some people how could not stand USA just domanating the sport so they look to take down some one anyonw.

        August 26, 2012 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Sadie

        I would say you seem jealous of the money Jessica.
        You keep mentioning how much money Lance has – and you are upset that it is not fair that other cyclists won.
        Bet you vote for obama also – jealous of others accomplishments.

        August 26, 2012 at 3:19 am | Report abuse |
        • TheVoiceofReason

          Yes, Sadie... because only Democrats are jealous of the money and accomplishments of others. Shouldn't you be polishing your guns and looking for the nearest soapbox to talk about how you don't get to keep enough of your money? (No, that's not actually what I think you're doing – it's me making the same kind of dumb political statement that you feel so proud of making... in reference to someone's views on a sports article.)

          August 26, 2012 at 4:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Justme

        Your logic is broken. Those that got busted, didn't just up and confess. They were busted during the same drug screens that Armstrong passed. If they take him down, they dilute the attention upon themselves. Maybe it was even petty jealousy. The guy has been convicted based upon hearsay. He has not been convicted based on evidence. And why did it take more than 7 years. Defending against 7 year old accusations is nearly impossible. He can't give blood tests now to prove anything. He may be guilty as sin, but the way they are taking him down is wrong. If he was guilty, he should have been taken down years ago. As it is, it really does sound like a witch hunt.

        August 26, 2012 at 4:01 am | Report abuse |
      • JWoody907

        There's actually no proof to your statement. USADA has never proven Armstrong guilty of anything, they've merely alleged that he used EPO and that they conducted an investigation. Armstrong has argued that USADA is incorrect and is unfairly targeting him. After Armstrong's court case was blocked as the court ruled it did not have jurisdiction to rule on the matter, Armstrong has decided not to challenge further USADA's claims, under the premise he cannot get fair treatment.

        I dislike Armstrong intensely for his personal life, but the allegations of drug-use have existed since his return to professional cycling and up until now, not ONCE has he popped hot for EPO, but suddenly he does? Granted testing methods have improved, but in thousands of samples that were run previously, there still should've been a positive hit and there wasn't. The entire affair reeks.

        August 26, 2012 at 4:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Brett

        Did you really just say it wasn't impressive to beat cancer? Any cancer of any sort at any time?

        In case you were curious, took about 3 seconds to look up online which shows how much effort you put into finding things out.

        "On October 2, 1996, then aged 25, Armstrong was diagnosed as having developed stage three testicular cancer (Embryonal carcinoma).[16] The cancer spread to his lungs, abdomen and brain. On that first visit to a urologist in Austin, Texas, for his cancer symptoms he was coughing up blood and had a large, painful testicular tumor. Immediate surgery and chemotherapy were required to save his life. Armstrong had an orchiectomy to remove his diseased testicle. After his surgery, his doctor stated that he had less than a 40% survival chance."

        And then you follow it up by making a comment about how his foundation, that helps an untold number of people pumping money into cancer research, could have been a boon to his own recovery. A foundation that wasn't founded until a year AFTER his bout with cancer.

        What would others gain from bringing him down? The same thing they always gain, propping themselves up a notch or two by bringing someone else down. They get their names and faces in the history books as the men and women who brought down a giant. He passed all his tests and now they're going back and beating this guy up for years now, I think it's amazing he stayed in the fight as long as he did when couch potato douche-bags like you are just hoping he'll fail so you can justify your own miserable life.

        August 26, 2012 at 4:22 am | Report abuse |
        • lou h

          Thank-you Brett.

          August 26, 2012 at 7:53 am | Report abuse |
  72. onthefly8

    So the title of the article is that "Cyclists say 'Good Riddance' to Armstrong" – implying that several cyclists were saying such things. Yet only ONE cyclist is quoted and no where in the article is the phrase "Good Riddance" actually quoted. Who the heck is editing this "journalism" and what exactly are they trying to achieve beyond sensationalism? I'm getting tired of CNN's bull....

    August 26, 2012 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
  73. Spaz

    I'm a cyclist and no one is saying "good riddance", Steve. That is just an asinine comment. There are always athletes who who are head and shoulders above the rest without cheating. Are your "competitive cyclist" friends saying the same thing about Greg Lemond and his performances? How about Indurain or Hinault?

    August 26, 2012 at 1:55 am | Report abuse |
  74. XxMacleodxX

    In other words..."we lost and almost all the others that finished under him were caught doping (with positive tests). We are whining sore losers and want to drag a person with hundreds of negative tests down as well."

    August 26, 2012 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  75. Ruby Dahl

    I never could figure it out why the media went so ga-ga over this man. Some of us had him pegged from the start.
    It was very strange just the fact that he "won" all the races. There will always be a question mark lingering on Mr. Armstrong.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Spaz

      Ruby, You had him "pegged from the start"? Really? Who are you anyway?

      August 26, 2012 at 1:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Jessica

        Hey Spaz, I had him pegged from the start too- just because you lack discernment does not mean everyone does and who are you to be asking who Ruby is?

        August 26, 2012 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
        • Justme

          So Jessica and company that had him pegged from the start, why didn't the professionals, whose job it is to catch cheaters, catch him years and years ago like they did the ones were caught. Was it because they were incompetent or was he actually innocent. If he was cheating why didn't they catch him back then when he took the same tests, which every else took. Why are they going after him only now when there isn't a thing he can do to refute the scores since it is so long past. Give me a break. He cheated through seven Tours when he was heavily scrutinized, because he was winning so much? That doesn't hold water. If he was cheating, and if they were testing and watching him like a hawk, don't you think they would have caught him years ago?

          August 26, 2012 at 4:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Elissa Bello

      It was obvious this guy cheated and lied, and had the audacity to accept these awards and hold his head up high? What does that say about such a person? Charges should be brought against him

      August 26, 2012 at 2:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Tiger Woods 'won' every golf game he played through 99% of his career,yet no one found that suspicious.
      Why is it so hard to conceive that someone may just be really good at what they do?
      They can take his titles if they want;as far as I'm concerned,he'll always be the person who won them.

      August 26, 2012 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Jessica

        Chris- Armstrong is always going to be the guy who won the Tour De Force? Tiger woods has never been caught doping or failed any doping tests. You remind me of some guy who said years and years after Nixon resigned that he thought Nixon only resigned because he was pushed to by the same people that framed him. Some people just do not have the strength of character to admit that they were wrong about someone. Good luck Chris! You need it! Poor Armstrong, wait Armstrong is going to be OKAY- after-all he has you! This is what you sound like waaah waaah waaah

        August 26, 2012 at 3:07 am | Report abuse |
        • Scott

          Did the last boyfriend that dumped you look like lance.. someone hasn't been laid lately

          August 26, 2012 at 4:07 am | Report abuse |
        • lou h

          The world is full of negative, narrow minded 'thinkers' like your self.
          What happened to you Jessica to make you that way? There is always room for discussion ...like Lance's super performances and testing from age 15 forward. There should be no room for your hatred.

          August 26, 2012 at 7:57 am | Report abuse |
    • hondosan

      As I recall, as a teenager, Lance was mopping the floor with the competition on the bike during triathlons. Juicing – as an amateur – at 15 years old?

      August 26, 2012 at 2:28 am | Report abuse |
  76. DavidH

    The assertion that it has been proven no one can ride that fast without performance enhancing substances is utter nonsense, and it provides compelling evidence that Andy Shen is writing from a personal bias. He should be stripped be banned for life from journalism and have all his previous columns revoked.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
  77. John

    Who gives a dam about some stupid people who ride a bike. WOW, they can ride a bike far.
    Cant stand these idiots who ride their stupid bikes in the car lanes, thinking they have the right of way.
    Ever time I see one of these a-holes down on the ground I laugh so hard I almost crash.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
    • DavidH

      Actually, John, the DO have the right of way. Cyclists, pedestrians, and equestrians all have the right of way over cars in most if not all states.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Sorry, should have been "they DO have ...:

        August 26, 2012 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
      • ann

        A bike has the right of way only if it's in a bike lane, crossing the street with the appropriate traffic signal and so forth... but for people just riding their bikes in the street, thinking that cars should go around instead of them getting their ass on the right side of the while line have another thing coming as far as I'm concerned called my TYRES! Remember the movie Death Race?

        August 26, 2012 at 2:13 am | Report abuse |
        • Ineptitude

          Wow, Ann, that's just wrong. Bicyclists do not need a bike lane in order to have right-of-way, nor are they required to ride on the other side of the line in the absence of a bike lane, especially since the pavement on the other side of the line is often uneven or covered in trash so as to make it unsafe. Nope, bicyclists have the right-of-way as much as cars do but of course that means they are bound by the same laws and should stop at lights and stop signs, yield to pedestrians, and so forth.

          August 26, 2012 at 8:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      Next time when you crash, I hope you die. Prick!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Your-grandpa

      Hi John

      Your grandpa here from my grave. I am rolling in my grave to see what you have become – a fat jerk who has forgotten that not so long ago most of us used to ride bikes. I rode to work each day to earn a living to buy food for your papa and when you came, chocolates for you. Learn to respect the cyclists you dumb, fat jerk!

      August 26, 2012 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Bullet1

      Right on John. They ask us to share the road, but they do not share the expenses of maintaining the roads VIA gasoline tax. they also do not have to have insurance, lights, tags, registration papers, turn signals, etc.,etc. They also do ot have a standardized way of going from place to place. They are less than smart to challenge cars and trucks headon because it is a foregone conclusion who is going to lose in such an encounter.

      August 26, 2012 at 3:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Scott

        amen to than ,im tired of being there baby sitter ..around here they think the laws will protect them good luck with that

        August 26, 2012 at 4:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Jessica

      John- You almost crash from laughing when you see someone injured? You are obviously a good person, with good character and harmful. Oops, almost left out mature.

      August 26, 2012 at 3:11 am | Report abuse |
  78. Robert Marenco

    this people had enough time to do it first time he won Tour the France why do it now . this people don't have nothing to do but to hurt someone who help many people . that's a shame.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      So you are saying its ok he doped and cheated his way to 7 titles, as long as he did some good after getting cancer?

      August 26, 2012 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        I think that what he is saying is that they didn't take away his titles before because they didn't have proof. They still don't. All they have is people saying he did it, and there are plenty more who knew him well and say he didn't. He had natural physiological advantages over other riders and trained as hard as anybody. He rode hard and he rode smart. He won time and again because he was the best rider out there and had good support from his teammates.

        August 26, 2012 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  79. Olaf Big

    It's a mess. No admission of guit, no proof of wrongdoing... An agency that nobody is sure what powers it has... I wish Armstrong would either fight the accusations, or admit his guilt. He is feeling pretty good? I think he is really off kllter to say that. It's pretty much like saying: You know folks, don't take me seriously. I made my buck, that's all that matters. The rest was just a show for the suckers.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Synthetically Thought...

      Where have you been lately? Are you not aware that they have at minimum...11 proven incidents when he used performance enhancing drugs? I think he threw in the towel once they showed him the evidence and he realized his back was to the wall. No agency would have been this persistent had they not had all the evidence before them.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  80. Nate

    If this was 8 years ago ... it might be news ... who cares now? They have been trying to tear Armstrong down for years and could never do it because they had no evidence. All this "evidence" after the fact is BS. If you have evidence now ... why wasn't it there 8 years ago ... when you had the same blood?

    All of this is nonsense and has no relevance to Armstrong today. Its not like he's competing at a Pro level any more. If it wasn't for Lance, nobody in America would care or likely even know what the Tour De France is.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Le

      I agree- who cares. And what does a US agency have to do with a race in France anyway- to me that is the biggest question. Isn't it up to the authorities who run the Tour de France to decide who has a valid win or not? Totally mystefied.

      August 26, 2012 at 2:16 am | Report abuse |
  81. Debbie

    Competitive cycling has become a serious JOKE....I admire Lance for focussing his energy on what REALLY matters......LIVESTRONG....I am a 5 year cancer survivor and the ppl at LIVESTRONG were AMAZING when i was looking for help........

    GO LANCE

    August 26, 2012 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Ironman Jack

      Well said Debbie, best wishes to you and your cancer fight. Cannot overlook what LIVESTRONG has provided.

      Jose Witless...good luck watching your paint dry while on your fat ass.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Jessica

      Debbie- do not fool yourself- of course the foundation would be great- how much money have they asked you for since and how often? Also there is a charitable foundation watchdog that shows the % of donations that actually go for research and how much goes for administrative expenses, which means salaries etc. How much is his salary? Check out his grade- I bet its a C. The watchdog independent review says if they do not get a grade of A, there is probably a reason not to fund them.

      August 26, 2012 at 3:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Tena

        Well Jessica, with about 10 minutes worth of google I was able to find out that the Livestrong Organization is rated as a 4 star out of 4 star by Charity Watch, with an overall rating 63 out of 70. The Better Business Bureau states that Livestrong meets all 20 standards that it has for charitable organizations. Charity Navigator states that only 5% of all money Livestrong brings in is spent on wages for all employees and that the CEO of the company receives a annual salary of 340,000. Gee, 10 minutes. Before you speak, maybe you should do a little research. Oh but wait, that is how this witch hunt works. I say therefore it must be true.

        August 26, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
  82. Sutemi

    Lance Armstrong will ALWAYS be synonymous with Tour de France for me. Subject every other rider to the same level of scrutiny and you will find the same results. ALL those losers dope...that's the game, dope and pass the test. The playing field was always level and Lance still beat them all. Sour grapes from the nameless losers who no one will remember or care about.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Joseph Watley

      Said from a nameless loser... Who f-ing watches the Tour de France anyway??? Lord, I'd rather watch paint dry than that garbage. Sure, it's impressive what those roidletes can do: but that doesn't make it entertaining.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Actually, the Tour de France has more spectators than any other sporting event in the world. It is one of the few sporting events that I watch. The cyclists generally exhibit so much more class than the participants in those sports with more American TV viewership, and I do find it genuinely exciting. The more you understand about what is going on, of course, the more likely you are to enjoy it.

        August 26, 2012 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
      • Scott

        People say the same thing about Nascar until they go to a race, then they're hooked. Don't knock something until you have experienced it.

        August 26, 2012 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      Wow.. nice sentiment.. the people whom lance beat, are losers, nobodies. Apparently all that matters to you in life is who manages to beat all the others, that makes them special, and makes those who dont win, worthless. Thats a messed up philosophy there.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:51 am | Report abuse |
  83. blinky

    The EPO evidence has not been stored securely, unlike criminal evidence. Armstrong passed a "weak" test, but passed it not dozens but hundreds of times. The National Geographic doc gives a solid alternative explanation for why Armstrong's body was naturally capable of delivering so much oxygen. Is Armstrong totally beyond suspicion? No, but all the evidence against him is flimsy, especially the hearsay from an in-crowd that grew resentful of his combination of ego and accomplishment. I suspect what we will really find is that the physical size of his heart gave him an edge, but not doping.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      THANK U BLINKY! Finally some 'science' brought into this!! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Solidaridad!!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
      • blinky

        Barry, Let's leave politics out of it. You might be surprised to find the people you have agreeing with you on the doping subject.

        August 26, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
        • Barry Todd

          Thx Blinky!! Fight the fight 'bro! Barry

          August 26, 2012 at 1:22 am | Report abuse |
  84. Joseph Watley

    What a cheater. It's because of him that the canyons in Utah are so f-ing crowded with lame road bikers...

    August 26, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse |
  85. Jamie

    I do not think he should be banned for life from competing in cycling. Maybe 4 or 5 years. In his case it would be enough to hurt him dearly. Age does count. A lot of promising young bucks out there.

    August 26, 2012 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
  86. Larry Jones

    Andy Shen is a joke, just like the guys who have TESTED POSITIVE and are trying to ruin Lance Armstrong's reputation. Almost 500 tests, and not one positive test for Armstrong. Facts are facts.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      Larry is da' MAN: You got it right amigo! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Larry, we're in this together!!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
  87. Charlie

    Only the losers say good riddance.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      Charlie: You hit the nail on the head!! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Salud!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Delilah

      YES! And all this hearsay evidence with not a shred of anything firm. Isn't it ridiculous?

      August 26, 2012 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
  88. Ironman Jack

    Innocent or guilty makes no difference to me, he still motivated me and many others to ride and be healthy. I bet you still have your ipad, iphone or Galaxy while those companies steal from each other and profit from slave labor.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      Ironman: U R right!! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Johann Bruyneel will fix this mess!!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
  89. jb

    Am I the only person who saw the video made by Armstrong's former personal assistant? It was in 2002, and she described in detail when, why and how he began doping. When he started racing in Europe, he quickly learned that ALL the winning teams were doping and that an Italian MD was at the center of it all. He was way ahead of the people tasked with testing, and taught Lance how to evade detection. This woman described every detail. Where he injected, how he masked the injection sites with make up. How he almost got caught several times. How he told her 'Now you are on the inside...'. It was played on a student TV channel in Seattle, WA. It was on in the early morning, like 1 or 2am. I thought that was the end for L.A. but nobody ever mentioned that woman or her story again. My guess is that the video was confiscated and destroyed. If anyone else saw it, speak up. Not proof, but very compelling testimony. Seemed too detailed to be fabricated.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Larry Jones

      You aren't, but most of the world knows the story about the former assistant's "incentive" to tell that tale.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
      • jb

        @ Larry, I don't know the rest of the story. What was her name? Was she 'involved' w. Lance? I'd like to know if she's Since been discredited or if she admitted to lying. If she made it all up she should have been sued or sent to the funny farm.

        August 26, 2012 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Delilah

      Saw it a long time ago and thought it seemed contrived and false. Now it is obvious that the woman and others were editing and trying to manipulate the whole thing. Not to mention the conspiracy regarding "incentives" that came out later.
      It is just ridiculous putting Lance through all of this. If they couldn't prove anything beyond shadow of a doubt back then and if they haven't kept all test results locked up and scrupulously, without a doubt, clean, THEN I SAY BACK OFF!!! He won all of those races against his peer group (who likely were doping) and NOTHING anyone can do will ever take away that fact!!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:38 am | Report abuse |
  90. Barry Todd

    Jesse is RIGHT!!! Viva America Jesus! You got it right amigo! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Ole!!!

    August 26, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
  91. khmeyerson

    If the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency did not detect anything in his blood when he was racing then why come after him now? How is it that the second hand evidence is more convincing than the actual test? None of this would stand up in a US court of law. Give the guy a break. If you screwed up the test and he really is guilty of doping then you are the loser not Lance. The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency is the one that should be stripped of everything, its power, its positions and most of all, any support from my tax dollars.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      khmeyerson- BIG SHOUT OUT! Finally some 'logic' to this Cirque d' Lance!! You got it right amigo! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It's 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... es verdad!!

      August 26, 2012 at 12:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Larry Jones

      Why, khmeyerson? Because when there's not one bit of physical evidence, they turn to the words of guys who have tested positive and claim that is evidence.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Barry Todd

        That's right Larry!! 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Stay the course!!

        August 26, 2012 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
        • Joseph Watley

          STFU.

          August 26, 2012 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Joseph Watley

        They obviously have evidence, did you even read any of the headlines, or are you just going on your own bias? I bet you wish you had Lance's nut in your mouth right now, huh...

        August 26, 2012 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
        • Barry Todd

          Joseph: Excellent point!! We're behind you- this is a 'witch hunt'- 500 tests- and NOTHING!! It 'cuz of all these left wingers: they are the 'real' dopers! Leave Sr Lance alone- he has suffered enough... Thx for your reporting JW!!

          August 26, 2012 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Delilah

        Ha! Good point, Larry! The losers, with high levels of ramped up emotion and jealously, are the ones who are testifying against Lance. HELLLOOO!!! What is wrong with that picture?

        August 26, 2012 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
  92. Puckles

    Lance is a total loser and doper. IT is about time he gets what he deserves.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Delilah

      No, he is not a loser. He is a winner. He won repeatedly in many areas of his life. When was the last time you won anything? When was the last time you doped?

      August 26, 2012 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
  93. TX Former Cyclist

    When I was a teenager in the early 90's I was a cyclist, and a buddy of mine was invited by the US Olympic team to test in CO Springs. When he came back his blood oxygen content was through the roof, in fact, the US Olympic team had only seen one kid with a higher capacity to hold oxygen in his blood, a young man named Lance Armstrong. This was well before his cancer fight. Now, at that time he wasn't mature enough to even complete the tour, and was not a house hold name. I remember reading about his cancer diagnosis thinking what a shame it was since he was so young and hadn't had a chance to come into his own on the International scene. Now, if anything ever gave this guy a unfair advantage, aside from genetics, it was fighting cancer, I'm sure his system got more than its fair share of drugs to build up his body after it was almost killed (prescriptions given to save his life). That, with a ridiculous genetic ability to hold Oxygen in the blood, might have given him one heck of a base level of fitness to build from, but no athlete was under more scrutiny than Lance during his peak years and he never failed a test, at this point that should be enough.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
    • David

      Bottom line is that Armstrong raced the tour prior to his cancer and was a nobody. Then he returns and he's suddenly a superstar. Miracle? Doubt it. It's called small doses of EPA over longer time rather than bigger doses concentrated in shorter time. System can be beat, and Armstrong did. Maybe he should be left alone because he beat it without anyone catching him, but we should not be fooled into believing he did it without drugs. total and utter BS

      August 26, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • peachykeen

      I hate to see anyone say they admire such a horrid person. Watch the clip of him winning some race not long ago and blowing off his little daughter who was there at the finish yelling "Daddy, daddy!". Let your wife stand by you through your battle with cancer and then leave her for some celeb. Read his book and tell me if anyone should admire such a worm of a man!

      August 26, 2012 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
  94. Joseph

    For the dumbass cyclist who talked about lance in this article, i will say screw you. Unless you have ever had cancer or competed in the tour de france, you have no right to say these things. This sounds just like the type of controversey that surrounded Ye Shiwen during the olympics. She swam a few seconds faster in the 400 meter IM than her previous time at the 2010 asian games. Everybody thought she was on performance enhancing drugs because of her time. They tested her and she passed. That is like going up to every athlete that breaks a world record and say we do not believe you won fair and square and you should be tested. So unless a doctor goes to a news reporter and says that lance armstrong abused drugs for all his victories, i don't think he should get a lifetime ban or have his victories taken away.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
    • gakster

      Armstrong is the same pig he was before he had cancer, the same pig he will likely always be.

      August 26, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Chris murphy

    Andy Shen is an idiot and a no body. I would love to meet him face to face, just so I could SLAP the shit out of that no name piece of crap.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Barry Todd

      Chris: I did not know Internet was allowed in state pens 'after hours'... Thx for your stellar contribution to this forum...

      August 26, 2012 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
  96. USA EH OK

    typical yank...cheating...just like carl lewis and marion jones.....america sucks

    August 26, 2012 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Joseph

      im sorry but how many medals did great britain win in the olympics? i think it was 65. The united states, my country, won over 100, so, who really sucks?

      August 26, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
    • laura

      America sucks because you can't get in

      August 26, 2012 at 1:09 am | Report abuse |
  97. Ed

    Notice what utter nonsense the title is? "Cyclists say 'good riddance' to Armstrong" Except that the only quote came from a single cyclist, and he didn't say "Good riddance." Typical CNN-level "journalism."

    August 26, 2012 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Mitch

      when you only use one quotation mark on each side, it indicates that the statement is a commonly used figure of speech, not a direct quotation

      August 26, 2012 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
  98. leeann

    Years ago, my husband and I saw a television program (unfortunately I can't remember the name) about the "science" of Lance Armstrong. The program featured several doctors from various specialties. The focus of the program was on how Lance's body seemed to be made specifically for physical endurance . . . something about his cardiovascular system being better or larger than the average person, as well as some other physical attributes. The doctors said that sometimes a person is just born with a body that, physically, can go one notch higher. They said it was a big part of the reason he was able to beat cancer. I've looked on the internet and can't find the program; I wish I could, because the program explained Armstrong's abilities far better than I'm doing.

    Michael Jordan is a superb athlete who requires (or required, back in the day,) very little sleep. This would not be normal for most any other athlete, but it was normal for Jordan. Some people are just born with bodies that can master things the rest of us, athlete or not, cannot.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • groovity

      I saw that same program years ago as well!

      August 26, 2012 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Oh Boy

      "you have to be pretty delusional to think that he was clean". Get it leeann?

      August 26, 2012 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Honey-Suckle

      Hers the link : http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0722_050722_armstrong.html

      August 26, 2012 at 12:46 am | Report abuse |
      • blinky

        I saw this program too and have been thinking about it the past couple of days, thanks for the reminder.

        August 26, 2012 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
      • leeann

        From Honey-Suckle – "Hers the link : http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0722_050722_armstrong.html"

        Honey-Suckle, you are wonderful! Thanks so much!

        August 26, 2012 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
  99. CyclingMinority

    Andy Shen? Andy Shen, the guy that has one very suspect KOM on Strava - didn't look like enough watts based on weight and time? Did he use a car? Well, we don't know if he did or not, so we should all assume he did.

    August 26, 2012 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
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