Romney, Obama have one (big) difference on foreign policy
October 9th, 2012
08:25 AM ET

Romney, Obama have one (big) difference on foreign policy

By Lisa Desjardins, CNN

(CNN) – Mitt Romney may be trying to separate himself from President Obama.

However, on foreign policy, most analysts have to squint to find much room between the two men on specifics.

Both support tight sanctions against Iran, a firm alliance with Israel, a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict, indirect support of the Syrian opposition and full U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

There are degrees of contrast on each of those issues, but the real difference, a very large difference, lies outside the specific issues and in broad philosophy: how the two candidates approach the world and America's role in it.

[2:50] "Mitt Romney is trying to portray himself as a more aggressive leader on national security. Obama is more multilateral, some call it 'leading from behind'. Romney tried (in his Virginia speech) to show himself as someone who would lead from the front, suggesting a potentially more aggressive foreign policy" Leila Halil, director of the Middle East Task Force at the nonpartisan New America Foundation.

In his speech at the Virginia Military Institute Monday, Romney spelled out a philosophy of American exceptionalism and indicated a belief that the U.S. not only has the ability to be a dominant force in the world, but that it has that responsibility.

[3:17] "I believe that if America does not lead, others will, others who do not share our interests and our values. And the world will grow darker, for our friends and for us."

President Obama has also called for American leadership in the world, but not American dominance.

He told the United Nations in 2009, "No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed."

It is a sharp difference on key philosophy: how the U.S. sees itself and its relationship to the rest of the world.

Editor's Note: Listen to the complete interview above and join the conversation below.

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  1. Loyal Northern Democrat

    The points that are missed are that Romney may like to have a bunch of women in bed with him at one time (no problem if they all pay the same amount), but Obama is one of our greatest communist leaders and definitely the best from Kenya. Step n' Fetch It paved the way!

    October 9, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
  2. john the electrician

    Well, come 2013 we won't have public schools anymore. And that's fine because all poor young people need to learn is how to pull a trigger. We need to bring order to the world.

    October 9, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse |
  3. a must see!!!! lara logan from 60 minutes slams obama foreign policy

    this video below is a MUST see...lara logan, of 60 minutes just gave a speech in chicago at the better govt association....its being reported widely, just not on cnn, nor on the nytimes, nor on abc or nbc, or even by her own network, cbs. Its really fantastic...now THAT is good journalism and COURAGEOUS HONEST journalism...FINALLY!!!!!


    October 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • candy

      Oh that Lara Logan who's married to Joseph Burkett,, a U.S. government defense contractor from Texas? She's afraid that her husband is going to be out of a job?

      I have no doubt that al qaida prefers Romney who wants to "lead at the front". That how they can find happiness in extending the war on terror.

      October 9, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Loyal Northern Democrat

      Logan's Run?

      October 9, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |

      So I guess she really doesnt have a hidden agenda, she is a "real" reporter...hehehehe. What a joke.

      October 14, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Gonzo

    The US has always led. If we don't, someone else will, and we won't have anyone to blame but ourselves. Of course, that's not easy for Obama – to lead.

    October 9, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • candy

      Ask Bush how that turned out. That is, if you can find him nowadays. The RNC folks tried to find him to give a speech at the convention but couldn't find him. Wait! That's not the reason why Bush didn't go to the convention?

      October 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Wolfgang Halbig

    Wolfgang W Halbig
    3 hours ago ·
    In the four years I have been gathering information about and evidence against Barack Hussein Obama, I have encountered hundreds of coincidences that strike me as amazing. None of those coincidences, by themselves, may mean much. But taken as a whole it is almost impossible to believe they were all the result of chance. Consider the Obama-related coincidences:

    Obama just happened to know 1960s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama™s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing”which eventually just happened to require demolition.

    Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Obama), who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

    Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hid from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

    Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to bea friend of Malcolm X, who just happened to have been associated with the nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who just happens to live very close to Obama™s Chicago mansion, which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents just happen not to mind exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.

    After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton™s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama™s $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.

    Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama™s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.

    Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his most enthusiastic,� and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

    Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript calledDreams From My Father, which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

    Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slum lord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm™s Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.

    In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks (Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to spread nationwide, and which just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

    In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the New Party,� which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

    In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama™s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered, and both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

    In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel will never see a day of peace,� and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children™s dance whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine� and there has been genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,� and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.

    In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull™s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

    Obama just happened to save $300,000 on the purchase of a $1.65 million Chicago mansion for which he deposited only $1,000 in earnest money, while the seller™s adjacent empty lot which was appraised at no more than $500,000 just happened to be sold at the inflated price of $625,000 to Rita Rezko, who just happened to earn only $37,000 per year working for Cook County government, and who just happened to be married to Tony Rezko, who just happened to be Obama™s main money man for his political campaigns, and who only days before the Obama mansion purchase just happened to obtain a $3.5 million loan from wealthy Iraqi Nadhmi Auchi, who just happened to have been kicked out of Iraq, and who just happened to have been convicted of corruption charges in France, and who just happened to ask Rezko to ask then-U.S. Senator Obama to help him obtain a visa to travel to the United States.

    Rita Rezko just happened to borrow the money for the $625,000 empty lot from the Mutual Bank of Harvey, which just happened to be run by Tony Rezko™s pal Amrish Mahajan, whose wife Anita just happened to have been charged with fraudulently receiving $2 million in Illinois taxpayer dollars for drug tests never performed by her company, K. K. Bio-Science,which just happened to have a no-bid contract with the state, and whose computers just happened to disappear right before investigators arrived to take them away for evidence.

    Obama just happened to obtain a $1.32 million mortgage for his mansion even though the payments of $8,000 per month (plus at least $1,500 per month in property taxes) exceeded 50 percent of his $162,100 U.S Senate salary income, and even though Michelle Obama was claiming that she and her husband were still paying off substantial student loans and were struggling to pay for piano lessons for their daughters, one of whom just happens to look remarkably like one of the daughters of Malcolm X.

    Obama just happened to obtain his mansion mortgage from Northern Trust Bank, whose Board of Directors just happened to include Susan Crown, who just happened to be part of the wealthy Crown family, which just happened to donate to Obamas campaigns, and which just happened to have ownership in defense contractor General Dynamics Corporation, and the Crown family just happened to sit on the board of energy company Exelon, formerly known as Commonwealth Edison, which just happened to have had Thomas Ayers as its CEO, and the Crown family also owned the Maytag appliance company, which just happened to move its operations to Mexico, after its employees just happened to donate to Obamas campaign, after he just happened to pledge that he would keep their jobs in Galesburg, Illinois.

    In June 2005, just months after Obama became a U.S. Senator, Michelle Obama just happened to be named a non-executive director� of the board of TreeHouse Foods, a supplier of Wal-Mart, for a salary of $51,200 in 2005 and $101,083 in 2006, and she just happened to be given 7,500 TreeHouse stock options, worth approximately $72,375, even though she just happened to know nothing about the private sector or running a business.

    In 2006 Obama pushed for a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago, and his wife Michelle just happened to be promoted to Vice-President of Community and External Affairs for the hospitals with a salary increase from $121,900 to $316,962, and she just happened to receive public relations help from Obamas now political strategist David Axelrod, whose mother just happened to write for a Communist newspaper.

    In 2006, Sarah P. Herlihy, an associate of the Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, whose employees later contributed $87,722 to Obamas presidential campaign, and whose partner Bruce I. Ettleson just happened to be a member of Obamas campaign finance committee, just happened to write a paper calling for the elimination of the natural born citizen requirement in the U.S. Constitution.

    Obama just happened to visit Kenya in 2006 to support his cousin, Raila Odinga, a Muslim socialist candidate for president, who just happened to have ties to both al-Qaeda and Libya™s Muammar Qaddafi, and who just happened to have been educated in communist East Germany, and who just happened to name his son Fidel, and who just happened to plan on establishing Shari™ah Muslim law in Kenya, and whose activities prompted the Kenyan government to lodge an official protest of Obama™s passport abuse and misconduct, and Obama™s actions just happened to have been denounced by the U.S. State Department as being in direct opposition to U. S. National Security, and after Odinga, for whom Obama just happened to have raised $950,000, lost the election, his Muslim followers just happened to burn Christian women and children alive..in a church where they had sought refuge.

    In 2006 Obama endorsed Alexi Giannoulias in his race for Illinois State Treasurer and stated that he is one of the most outstanding young men I could ever hope to meet even though Giannoulias just happened to be only 29 years old and even though his familys Broadway Bank, just happened to finance Chicago crime figures like Michael Jaws Giorango, a Chicago thug with convictions for bookmaking and promoting prostitution, and even though virtually all of Chicago™s Democrat politicians were keeping their distance from Giannoulias, whose reputation was so questionable, he even failed to get the endorsement of the Chicago Democrat Party”which just happens to almost never be concerned about questionable reputations.

    Obamas mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, once worked for the Ford Foundations Asia program, which just happened to be run by Peter Geithner, who just happened to be the father of Timothy Geithner, who just happened to neglect to pay Social Security taxes on much of his income, which just happened to somehow qualify him to be Obamas Treasury Secretary.

    During the 2008 campaign Obama™s passport records just happened to have been illegally searched by an employee of a firm headed by John O. Brennan, and Lt. Quarles Harris, Jr., who was cooperating with federal investigators in connection with the incident, just happened to be found with a bullet in his head, and the murder just happened never to be solved, and Obama later just happened to make Brennan his terrorism and intelligence advisor.

    On election night in 2008 in Chicagos Grant Park, Obama just happened to wear a black suit and a red tie, and his older daughter just happened to wear a red dress, and his younger daughter just happened to wear a stark black dress, and his wife Michelle just happened to wear an arguably unattractive black dress that appeared to have a giant red X design, which just happened to prompt some to wonder if their clothing just happened to denote black power, communism, and Malcolm X, and at the very least prompted others to wonder why anyone would have his daughter wear a jet-black dress for a celebratory occasion”or where one could even just happen to find a store that sells black dresses for little girls.

    From election night forward there are hundreds of other 'just happened's, not the least of which is the long-form birth certificate released by Obama in April 2011 which just happened to consist of multiple image layers, including various objects which can be separated and rotated with computer software”which just happens to be impossible if a birth certificate is merely scanned and not computer-constructed by a forger.

    Oh, and Obama just happened to have used more than one Social Security number over the years, and one of them is associated with 713 Hart Senate Office Building and starts with the digits 282, which signifies issuance in Ohio, a state in which Obama just happened to have never lived or worked,... and another Social Security number used by Obama starts with 042, which signifies Connecticut, another state in which Obama just happened to have never lived or worked, and it just happened that no one in the mainstream media has ever bothered to ask Obama why he has used multiple Social Security numbers or why the 042 number comes up as invalid in the E-Verify system used by employers to confirm whether immigrant job applicants have valid numbers.

    October 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Smeagel4T

    Still waiting for somebody to explain the difference between Romney's policies and the FAILED policies of Bush that lead us head-long into the Great Recession.

    Bush during 2000 debates: My tax cuts will be deficit neutral.

    Romney during 2012 debates: My tax cuts will be deficit neutral.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Barry from Wisconsin

    Scary…….dominate the world? Mitts is back in the early 20th century. If you want another war, more Americans and innocent civilians killed, then Romney is the one. NO ONE can say the President is soft. Remember who gave the order to kill Bin Laden? Remember who gave the order to have the seals take out terrorists and save an American captain?

    October 9, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
  8. amarjeet

    America & its people have believed in dominating people rather liberating people from torture & discrimination both in domestic as well international fields globally from 1700 century to present. America has liberated people from France to UK as well from South East Asia to others in Middle East. Romney policy is like thoughts of cow boy to dominate and lead by nose when status is low financially & economy affected by unplanned democracy for 8 years by republican president leading to financial cliff, jobless, less production or no manufacturing creating dependency on foreign countries for all consumer needs & creating jobs by transforming technology with investments abroad neglecting home from development, education, industry, technology, skills of management only just stores with army of clerks & cash counters to collect money & give to investors. This philosophy has hit hard people of America with no income, jobs, industry at home, no infrastructure, no energy, no technology development, no public transportation development etc. Republican theory & philosophy is nor workable & desired in modern world of cooperation & collective responsibility rather than leading the world to wars & destruction which are more disasters & uneconomical than peaceful persuasion & teethes elsewhere in in economic sanctions & human sanctions. There was economic destruction in 2008 when President Obama took over. People of America were disheartened & spiritually destroyed by collapse from Wall Street, Banking, AIG, Auto Industry & small businesses including closing of store’s, USPS & others with indirect effects. It was like an economic storm driving everyone in destruction making people homeless, jobless, divorces & break up & shifting of millions of families with savings gone to Wall Street & foreclosures.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • rags anne

      Always remember that Romney is a chameleon and will switch colors, mandates, thoughts, promises, etc. at the whim of his mind. He will say ANYTHING to get elected, then watch out when the real Romney emerges.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • republicans rule!

        Dirty Nasty Parasitic Lazy Liberals

        October 9, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  9. joy2have

    I think that the chances of Governor Romney being elected grow better each day. I will not regret it. I will be happy to have a leader who thinks of America first – not one that goes along to get along. Our enemies don't respect that, and that's not a true leader.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • John N. Seattle, WA

      Hope you enjoy paying for all of the wars he will start!

      October 9, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim Rigney

        Please tell me you don't think Obama won't go to war with Iran if he gets a second term, when and if it turns out they're planning to nuke Israel. . . . PRETTY please? I'll PAY you! . . . . Please?

        October 9, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Planner 922

      Then why didn't he "lead from the front" when he had the opportunity to really serve his country in Vietnam instead of dodging the Draft?
      He received College Deferments for two years, then spent two years on a "missions trip" in the South of France.
      After he returned, he spent the remainder of his Draft eligibility enrolled in a Mormon University in Utah.
      Toward the end of the War, Draft Boards in Utah were questioned about the extremely low number of Mormon men Drafted for Vietnam.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim Rigney

      Post-debate bumps are always temporary. 100% of the time. 0.0000000000 exceptions, absolutely none, ever. This race is *dead*-even in the swing states which are the only ones that matter. I think it's probably almost 100% certain that it's going to have to be decided by the Supreme Court – again.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barry from Wisconsin

      America first? Grow up. We are not first…..among the leaders, yes. I hope you are in the front ranks of the soldiers who will fight the next war if Romney is elected. No, wait….you are a chicken hawk. It is OK to have other fight, while you pound your chest and spout that nationalistic nonsense.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • rags anne

      Always remember that Romney is a chameleon and will switch colors, mandates, thoughts, promises, etc. at the whim of his mind. He will say ANYTHING to get elected, then watch out when the real Romney emerges.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • rags anne

      Read what I said before: Always remember that Romney is a chameleon and will switch colors, mandates, thoughts, promises, etc. at the whim of his mind. He will say ANYTHING to get elected, then watch out when the real Romney emerges.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Babaloo10

    The difference to me as an American is that Romney has the heart of an American Patriot. Obama is not American, by his actions and inactions. I think you don't know Romney. The point is we DO know Obama by now and last four years have really really taken us..... no where but DOWN. And that is the wrong direction this country should be taking.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barry from Wisconsin

      What utter nonsense. Who died and left you in charge of deciding who has "the heart of an American patriot?" NONSENSE

      October 9, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
  11. pc

    Bill Clinton on Obama-"It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once: well how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn't know how you would've voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war, and you took that speech you're now running on off your website in 2004, and there's no difference in your voting record and Hillary's ever since. Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."

    October 9, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dave70

    I am a Republican but Romney scares me. I don't like the way he says "I will do this" and "I will do that". And his foreign policy remarks are just so Mormon-agenda-driven (Israel can do no wrong simply because they are God's chosen people). Yuck. In fact I don't like that his weird religion means so much to him – I find that particularly scary. I will be voting Dem for the first time in my life. Never thought I'd see the day.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Babaloo10

      And I will vote Republican for the first time in my life!! Obama scares me. What Obama ISN'T saying scares me. I've seen what he's done for this country and I don't like it. Too many out of work. He concentrated on his health care plan making it mandatory. Yet we have no jobs in order to pay for the mandatory insurance! Is that stupid or what?!! I believe Obama has Socialistic tendencies and doesn't see the US like American Patriots do. Everyone should look at General Boykin's video on Marxism in America under Obama. Example: the Homeland Security is directed by the White House. Homeland Security sent out a memorandum to all law enforcement that the biggest threats to this country were: right-wing 2nd Amendment supporters, Christians, and returning military members! Nothing in the memorandum regard Islamic terrorists! Whaaa? Marxism strives to depress and discredit the opposition-those most likely to oppose and speak up about the wrongs in this country. I wonder why so many military members DO NOT like Obama, and are under a gag to not discredit their commander in chief. But the anger is palpable in this country and it is directed at this administration for the lack of finding the "voice" of America. We lost it, when we hired Obama. I'd rather go with the "new guy" Romney. (And isn't Obama now part of the "good 'ol boy" network of Washington-–a fact that you Republican opposers criticized Gingrich for? If Gingrich was the Rep candidate, he would blow Obama right out of the water.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • John N. Seattle, WA

        We have SEEN what 8 years under a Republican President got us...and everyone expects it to be fixed in a few years...yeah right! We have also heard the policies that Romney will put into place...crushing taxes on the middle class to finance tax breaks for the top 1% of earners. NOT the America I grew up in!

        October 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim Rigney

        In my opinion most people have no idea just HOW BAD the complete collapse of the world economy was/is going to be if America didn't/doesn't get it's impending health care disaster fixed. There's 700,000 medical bankruptcies per year in this country; that is *not* economically sustainable. And China is the 900-pound gorilla in the room and they are NOT going to go away. First things first. The impending total collapse of the economy due to the coming health care disaster MUST be prevented first or nothing else is going to matter at all.

        October 9, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • MatthewP

      As a social liberal who will be voting for Obama based on the fact that he is the better candidate, I am going to implore you not to vote because you're rationale for voting blue is fucking stupid. His religion is what you can't tolerate? Not the fact that he flip flops constantly on everything he says he stands for....but because he is a Mormon? *facepalm*

      IIt's people like you who make me think that we should remove all the warning labels off of bottles and let Darwinism weed out some of the stupid.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  13. PaulC

    George W. is an example of an aggressive leader on national security so I suggest you look carefully before you buy.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • smitvict

      Ronald Reagan was another leader that led from the front. Think before you renew your lease.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • candy

        Reagan only had to deal with one enemy – Russia. After Bush's wars, the US now has enemies all over the world. With Romney's "lead from the front" promise, we'll be at war for years to come. One good thing is that there'll be lots of jobs created, all feeding the military industry. But the country will go broke quick enough.

        October 9, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
        • SGT RAYRAY

          HEHEHEHEHE... A bit Funny, a bit Sad, and all but true.

          October 14, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Smeagel4T

      Yes. Reagan was also a disaster. He tripled our national debt in order to increase welfare payments to the military industrial complex welfare queen corporations. This at a time when the USSR was beginning to come apart anyway. Reagan simply lied about an arms race with the USSR would bankrupt the USSR. The USSR never even tried to engage in Reagan's arms race. Why would they need to? They had nuclear missiles pointed at the US. It was nothing but an excuse on Reagan's part to pump more welfare dollars to the military industrial complex welfare queens, and triple our national debt. Several years ago I was at a speech given by Gobachev. Someone asked him what they thought of Reagan's "tear down this wall speech". Gobachev said they were mostly busy with other issues, and besides they knew what Reagan's previous career had been (an actor).

      October 9, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  14. TomGI

    "Romney tried (in his Virginia speech) to show himself as someone who would lead from the front..."

    Great idea, so let's get all of his sons enlisted in the Army or Marine Corp and deployed to a front line fighting brigade ready to fight and possibly die for Israel in Iran.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • PaulC

      You obviously misunderstood. He meant lead from the front of the podium.
      Maybe he will guide the attack on China and Ryan will guide the attack on Russia.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • candy

        "...Maybe he (Romney) will guide the attack on China..." - Are you kidding? China is our friend and Romney's investment partner!

        October 9, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stephanie

      I am not a Romney supporter at all but your comment is ridiculous. How does his desire to "lead from the front" have anything to do with his family? Silly comment.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • candy

        Yes, leave Romney's sons out of it! Romney has always been about the 100%! We're talking about sons and daughters of non-privileged families, only those who do not have trust funds set up for them. During war time, they won't be able to find any job that's not military-related anyway. So what's the big deal?

        October 9, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim Rigney

      Do you *actually* think World War Three won't start if Iran is permitted to nuke Israel as they plan to? Stop lying to yourself; Obama is going to go to war with Iran during his second term if he's elected. If and when air power doesn't work – THANKS China!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 – – – He's going to send in troops.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Jim Eberle

    American Exceptionalism is the modern equivalent to German Exceptionalism (Arian Supremancy) in the 1930's and 1940's. Look what resulted from that ideology.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Colirado

      Goodwin's law. We are done here.

      October 9, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim Rigney

      This is a claim, not a sustantiated statement; and therefore meaningless.

      October 9, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Report abuse |
  16. FreedomStorm

    "The broader U-6 rate - which takes into account part-time workers who want full-time work and lots of discouraged workers who've given up looking - stayed unchanged at 14.7%. That's a better gauge of the true unemployment rate and state of the American labor market. ... The shrunken workforce remains shrunken. If the labor force participation rate was the same as when President Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%. If the participation rate had just stayed steady since the start of the year, the unemployment rate would be 8.4% vs. 8.3%. ... The 114,000 jobs created would have been a good number ... but for 1962, not 2012. The U.S. economy needs 2-3 times that number every month to close the jobs gap (which is the number of jobs that the U.S. economy needs to create in order to return to pre-recession employment levels while also absorbing the people who enter the labor force each month.) At 114,000 jobs a month, the jobs gap would not close until after 2025.... We are still on pace to create fewer jobs this year than last year. In 2012, employment growth has averaged 146,000 per month, compared with an average monthly gain of 153,000 in 2011. ... Bottom line: The U.S. labor market remains in a deep depression with virtually no recovery since the official end of the Great Recession. But the Long Recession continues unabated." –American Enterprise Institute's James Pethokoukis

    October 9, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
  17. garwin1

    I think there's a good chance that Romney will be elected. I also think that if he is elected, America will regret it.

    October 9, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • candy

      Al qaida attacked the US mission in Libya at this time for a reason. They want Romney and the GOP to win so as to make it easier to xtend their war on the US. You don't think they didn't embellish the Bush years?

      October 9, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Lar5

    Now his family wants us to disbelieve everything that he has said for years. Miracle moderate Mitt will fix it all, the economy and the world. How does Romney accomplish this? If he thinks that just by cutting taxes will do the job he will be very disillusioned in a short time. I am afraid he has no idea of the complexity of the presidential job and dealing with the GOP's extreme right wing in congress. He's in for a rude awakening if he believes they will compromise because he is president. The Tea Party has destroyed almost every moderate republican. If he goes to the middle and doesn't toe their line they will do the same to him

    October 9, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • planoman

      Obama has a very realistic world view, which in my opinion should help build bridges with the masses of the world. the failed policies of propping up dictatorships and supplying them with arms to kill their own people has got us to this mess. Foriegn policy should not be dictated by arms lobby. Having lived in middle east, south east asia and UK, I belive that Obama's policy has real substance. Hope people realize that they have a great opportunity with this president for a sound foriegn policy grounded in reality of our times and beyond

      October 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
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